Sooners News Daily 6.8.16
Posted on: June 8, 2016
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Welp, that suh-cked.
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We need you tomorrow Sooner Nation. Boomer pic.twitter.com/QTiSvy2wk6
— Oklahoma Softball (@OU_Softball) June 8, 2016
I just don’t have it in me to link to a Carlson article, but I very much agree with the stance that Gasso made the right decision last night in not starting Parker. Understand it’s VERY easy to second-guess that now, but the possibility of not having Parker tonight would have been questioned infinitely more.
From a deep hole to a walk-off grand slam, Auburn wins Game 2 the hard way (ESPN)
Will Sooners ace Paige Parker be rested and ready? 3 keys to Oklahoma-Auburn Game 3 (ESPN)
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OU football: Bob Stoops supports Big 12 title game https://t.co/G0SETOxQ3m
— Ryan Aber (@ryaber) June 8, 2016
Solid suggestions for Big 12 divisions, names https://t.co/OIgfoRUVA5
— ESPN Big 12 (@ESPN_Big12) June 7, 2016
Top 10 in @Mark_Schlabach’s latest Way-Too-Early-Top-25: Bama, Clem, Mich, FSU, OU, LSU, Stan, ND, OhSt, Tenn https://t.co/robnIGbLL9
— Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) June 7, 2016
Big 12 Tuesday mailbag: Expansion, satellite camps https://t.co/8kH5TUHV9p
— ESPN Big 12 (@ESPN_Big12) June 7, 2016
Jenks HS (OK) HC Allan Trimble retired 3 days ago, but had a change of heart. Now back as HC https://t.co/91yESfWPwX pic.twitter.com/nlZ8okqdYQ
— Doug Samuels (@CoachSamz) June 7, 2016
This is my not surprised face.
Report: Current Baylor football assistant aware of assaults by former player, took no significant action: https://t.co/UyYSIlgL9I #SicEm
— Ben Baby (@Ben_Baby) June 7, 2016
Texas Tech WR Devin Lauderdale reinstated after suspension https://t.co/Dn6anc5Keo pic.twitter.com/mlEvqeOhzh
— SI College Football (@si_ncaafb) June 7, 2016
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#Sooners With Mayfield, quarterback situation seems to be OU's best since 2008 season. https://t.co/SK1Fpbtnai pic.twitter.com/23W24D2VgG
— Bill Haisten (@billhaisten) June 8, 2016
Stoops: Size, speed, attitude could help Quick make seamless transition to CB #Sooners https://t.co/ZBkfNMjL5b pic.twitter.com/244AGlF0Uv
— Eric Bailey (@EricBaileyTW) June 8, 2016
OTHER
#Big12ROW: @OU_Rowing & @TexasRowing split yearly #Big12 Rowing honors. https://t.co/CIRptIdCFB
— Big 12 Conference (@Big12Conference) June 7, 2016
Nice.
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Morning all. BOOMER!
SOONER!!!!
Sooner!
Duvernay has named OU/Texas/TCU as his 3 finalists.. Kyler Murray is recruiting him hard…
Does anyone really expect to get DD? Don’t we have to take his brother to land Devin?
His brother still has to get a release, Baylor ain’t just handing those out… Devin is a free agent because they screwed up his paperwork..
I understand the situation at the moment, but I’m pretty sure that the players seeking a release will be granted a release. Baylor has no say in any of this. More and more dirt keeps getting dug up on them and I think the situation will change for all 2016 recruits.
Well, we broke 1k in comments last night ?. Still super salty about that loss. I know we got this Dub tonight though. Good morning TFBers, I hope y’all have a wonderful day ?
Top of the morning everyone, BOOMER!!
SOONER! Morning
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Metz!
737!
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Sparky!
Sooner!
Sooner!!
SOONER!! I know I am late. It has been a crazy morning
Morning BOOMERS.
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It’s 5:12 am and Texsa still SUCKS!
It’s 8:12 and Texas still SUCKS!
I have a 24 hour clock, and at no point during the day or night does Texas not suck. It’s weird that way.
Um its texsa Sucks guys!
I got it right 😉
They suck so much
And so consistently
Morning Ladies and Gents
Can anyone explain to me why Michigan is ranked number 3 in a lot of pre season pulls? I get they have hairball, but my goodness, they lost every game against quality opponents and beat up on the crap that the BIG calls a conference.
Pub.
Ohio State loses a lot and Mich. State loses their QB. The rest of the Big 10 is pretty mediocre.
I get that but it still doesn’t mean Michigan should be pre season top 5 or even top 10.
That does not justify Michigan being ranked ahead of OU with Baker coming back!
Like the way this reads per EsecPN “When I committed to Baylor, Oklahoma was my number two so I have always liked them,” Duvernay said “Kyler is talking to me about Oklahoma now too.” Could a boom be coming??
I don’t see why not!?! He could come in and immediately have playing time. With the possibility of playing 2 years with Baker and 2 years with Kyler. DO IT!
Apparently Gundy tweeted last night, “more great news coming for that soonersquad17 class. It continues to show why it is special”. Could it be?
That would be someone else, Duvernay is sonnersquad16
https://twitter.com/TRowOU/status/740347503443247105
Wow. That’s cool. I always thought he indicated that he didn’t want to coach too long which meant hanging up the visor before 60 yrs old or so?
I would be really surprised if he meant at OU for another 10 but who knows.
True, that.
I think he stays as long as Joe C does. If we change AD’s then it will depend on his relationship with them.
Bob did you send your daily to the bailer bor today?
Apparently, they blocked my email at their server so nothing appears to be getting through. I could send them a letter but I am not spending actual money on that clown car.
And he said he wasn’t going to coach well into his 60’s..
I see retirement in 5-8 years.
I’m not worried about the program after Bob. He has accumulated so many great relationships with coaches over the years. Built a huge coaching tree. As long as our AD is joe or someone as smart they have a long list of coaches they can hire.
Good morning Ray, can you find someone else to feed your horses today? It would be much appreciated. 🙂
And another 10 years would be just fine with me!
I’m fine with him taking the time necessary to groom Riley 🙂
Riley has potential to be the next legendary HC.
Maybe that taste of being the first coach in OU history to win the new playoff championship trophy has given him a rebirth. The icing to his legacy.
Maybe that taste of being the first coach in OU history to win the new playoff championship trophy has given him a rebirth. The icing to his legacy.
Bob Stoops is just giving a little cover for the XII giving him Mayfield for another year. No way he really supports the CG.
Bob Stoops almost always publicly supports the decisions made by the administration.
That dude stole my golf trick shot! Grrr….
I wonder how many bottles of champagne (and girlfriends) he went through before he made that shot.
3 girls and 10 bottles would be my guess.
I’m only on my second! 🙂
girlfriend or bottle?
First BOOMER SOONER——-
Anyone surprised the Baylor assistant in question was Jeff Lebby? I wasn’t.
Im shocked i tell ya!
That was a rough finish last night. Hope they regroup and Parker dominates
Dave!
Metz!
Metz!
For being a “one-pitcher” team I thought our throwers did a pretty good job of taking AU into extra innings :/
Jordan dont let Gabriel jack our page today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, get that crap outta here.
Yeah, what’s up with that – is he a UTerus fan or something? I’m all for getting multiple perspectives on things, but this place has always been a beautifully pristine environment for OU fans to hang out. The LAST thing we need here is a douchehorns troll to screw it all up. There’s plenty of that crap on other fan sites.
I believe he is one of the Mods for the shorthorn board!!
He is.
Be polite he is TFB, just gotta give Jordan a hard time for allowing him over to the good side.
The problem is you let a longhorn onto the board and then you have to fumigate. It’s hard to get the smell of steer crap off the furniture.
My only thing is if I wanted ignorant narcissistic opinions with an orange tint to it, there are plenty of places on the Internet to go and get them. I’ve always liked this place because it was a haven from all that crap.
Rough loss last night ladies….. got out and clinch it tonight!
Dude, I don’t second guess not starting Parker, but with a 7-0 lead it is a NO BRAINER to put her in the game. She aint giving back 7 runs and it would have kept the momentum. The 2nd pitcher was throwing balls in the dirt and to the backstop. She had NO BUSINESS pitching in a National Championship game.
You put Parker in, you win the game, there is no ‘tomorrow’. I thought that was a huge blunder, and crazy ironic given how incredible she was coaching up to that point.
You’re so wrong it’s not even funny. With a 7 run lead why on earth do you put in your ace in inning number 2? I mean seriously. I get you want to “protect” the lead, but in inning 2? Come on. That makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe inning 5, but not inning 2. Our defense cost us the game plus that robbed home run was devastating. Don’t put this L on Kelsey bc she did her best given the circumstances. Hindsight is always 20/20. We are winning tonight so it’s all good.
We can agree to disagree, but one thing is certain: When she takes the mound tonight it wont be with a 7 run lead in the 2nd inning. Those are incredibly good odds to win a 7 inning game.
PP may have gotten tired towards the end of the game, but the momentum was grossly in OU’s favor. We let Auburn back in it with poor pitching, which caused excitement to become nerves and led to poor defense.
With a big lead like that, the job of the pitcher is to throw strikes and give no free passes. The 3 run home run came off a hit batter, a walk and then getting behind the count and serving up a strike on a platter.
I think, when you’re in the championship and you have the chance to close the door, you take it. Up 7, you play to win. You do NOT play to NOT lose.
Up 7, or even more.
The plan from the beginning was to rest Parker for Game 3.
Parker at full strength this team is nearly unstoppable. 30+ games straight.. come on.
Calm down
We got this…
Fair enough. I just think our defense cost us that game along with that robbed home run. Like Bob said, if we score 1 run between innings 3-7 we win. It’s that’s simple. Or in my example, if we don’t give up the runs off errors and that home run was good then we would have smoked them. You’re probably correct when you say PP probably wouldn’t have given up 7 runs, but still. This loss was not only on our pitching like a lot of ppl seem to think.
The girls are hell on wheels scoring runs in the 1st and 2nd innings but then sure struggle to put up any runs after the 2nd inning. Hopefully the trend continues tonight for 1st two innings and then just keeps on going thru the 7th. Paige needs to have the good stuff tonight and the defense needs to have her back because this Auburn team can flat out hit with power. The good girls 7-5.
Kelsey did an admirable job but in the end shes not Parker.
We have the better team in every phase of the game with Parker playing.
She got her rest.
Our D is going to be amazing.
Our hitters are going to score.
We win.
We got this tonight Birddawg!
With all due respect, that is literally second-guessing.
Do I agree w/ your premise that the odds w/h/b against her giving back seven runs? Hell yes. But you presume it as though it is a fact, and that’s just simply not something anyone could know.
As I alluded to in the post, if you put her in that 2nd inning and she goes the rest of the way, maybe struggles, possibly even still loses the game. Then you are royally screwed tonight.
At the end of the day it’s all just ‘what if’ at this point, so there’s really little point in arguing one way or the other.
Rather we just have to hope they can get it done tonight.
Jordan is 100% correct,we have our best ready for tonight.
Anyone else see the stat last night….Paige Parker is 42-0 in her career when given a 2 run lead….
Here is where i insert the ‘beating dead horse’ emoji 🙂
Super glad it all worked out. Was a really fun year to follow this team. I actually watched their loss on 4/2 to Baylor and kept watching the longest winning streak in school history. Very special year and proud of Gasso and her girls.
We can second guess all day. I continue to go back to the robbed HR which would’ve sealed the deal. Gotta give credit for a great catch but that ball goes 4″ further, we have a natty. It was just Auburn’s night.
Tonight will be ours.
The decision was far from being a no brainer. If our offense had scored a single run between innings 3-7 we wouldn have won the game. Then we would be talking about how brilliant Gasso is. It’s always easy to criticize the decision once you have seen the results, it’s much harder to make the actual decisions at the time.
Yah, I get that and no question a couple of those girls should have gotten some bunts down that puts a runner on 2nd with 1 out. That really hurt not executing there…..and then there’s ‘the catch’
I also found it laughable last night for the announcers to 2nd guess Gasso, I was wondering which of the announcers were going to join Gasso as a hall of famer?
all of the announcers are hall of famers
RIIIGGGHHHTTT!!!!!
Heres the problem with your logic. If Parker comes in at say 70% because she has a tired arm theres definitely a possibility that she can give up 7 runs especially to a team like Auburn. Patti figured her other pitchers could hold off Baylor but if not at least she’ll have a 100% Parker for the last day. If Paige pitches ends up losing that game last night we’d be in very very deep trouble for game three.
Honestly, Parker at 50% looked better than Kelsey. From the first batter you could tell she didn’t have ‘it’. Wasn’t ‘missing small’ at all. The commentators even mentioned that she struggled with wild pitches and hit batters. Nuts
Terrible performance by Kelsey. Maybe nerves got to her but you expect a little better performance from a senior. 2 outs with 2 strikes and you serve one up. I would have put Paige in. Up 7, don’t take any chances bc you never know what will happen in game 3.
Trust me, even as good as Paige is, at 50% she’d get bombed by Auburn.
Fear!
Understand what you are saying, but you are discounting the fact our bats went cold and their pitcher was in a groove. Even with Parker in the circle, her success would depend on our batters getting on base and in scoring position. Which was questionable.
Good morning Brainiacs!!! “It is another great day to be a SOONER” Get out there and seize the day.
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metzker!
CARPE DE BOOMER!
pagan!
What up dawwwwwg!?
Living the dream my friend, living the dream. Started back to school yesterday, done forgot what I learned it seems!!
Refresh it by reading just before you go to sleep. They now believe that part of the reason we dream is to fix memories into our brains. Which is why my all nighter’s should have been “most of the nighter’s” with 3 hours of sleep! That’s my advice for the day, worthless or not.
Oh. And summer school sucks!
So does College Algebra!!
Yes it does. The order of operations is what does me in!
Quadratic Equations is my downfall!!
PEMDAS. Remember this and all is right in the math world.
Pagan!
Good morning P, I’m “older”, but my memory of summer school was SHORTER skirts and SHORTER shorts. That made surrmer school somewhat bearable back in the day.
My advice is don’t pull an all-nighter and then have a beer before the final exam.
You are living the dream. Being older and retired is nice but at times I wish it was September of 64 and I was a freshman again.
Well i do have an advantage, being 40 instead of 18-19 makes you hit the books a little harder. Since it comes out of my own pocket right?
Agreed. I was a noticeably better student when I was doing my masters and ten years older. Although, I had more fun when I was younger.
What????? More Baylor coaches knew about the assaults, but still did nothing?????? I’m speechless. ——–
Who knew!!!
Apparently, pretty much everyone in the Bailer administration.
If so and they do get “The Death Penalty”, Could this possibly be the open door we need to get out?
One can only hope!
Is it a “Don’t count your chickens before they hatch” kind of thing?
Id say so!
Damn it!!!
I’m rooting for the Death Penalty for them. Not only is it the right punishment for them, it could give us an out. I seem to remember the media contracts required us to have ten teams, that’s why we were in such a hurry to sign WVU and TCU.
I don’t think the media contracts have been released. At least I’ve been unable to find them.
There are several ways around the requirement for 10 schools.
1. The remaining schools could give up their tier 3 game restoring the number of games available to the network.
2. The network contract amount could be reduced by 10% which would not hurt any of the remaining schools. (Most likely).
3. Add another team. (least likely)
It’s very unlikely that the networks would have written a contract that would allow the conference an easy out like expelling a single school.
However, the GOR is what’s locking us in. If the contracts have to be reworked we have a window to leave since we can exit before the contract is resigned.
First of all, the media contracts, to the best of my knowledge, have not been released to the public. No one, outside of the conference, the schools, and the media know what is in them. I would expect that a competent set of attorneys would have foreseen this possibility and the contracts already contain provisions covering this possibility.
Second, the GOR and the media contracts are two different contract vehicles. A basic principal of contract law states that a change to one contract does not constitute a change to the other. The GOR would remain in effect while the media contracts are changed.
I’m going off what were giving as the reasons we added TCU and WVU. One of them was that we had to have ten schools because of our media contracts. I may be misremembering or the sources may have been misinformed, but that is how I remember it.
The GOR is with the conference, the conference then negotiates the media contracts. If we resign from the conference they no longer have our GOR. Now I understand we are still bound by the contracts that were in existence and that is how the GOR binds us for the length of the contract.
However, if the contract becomes void for other reasons, we could withdraw and the conference no longer have our GOR. Now perhaps, the conference required us to stipulate the GOR for a certain period and we are just screwed in that case. However, my understanding is that the GOR is tied to conference membership.
So I may be wrong that it gives us an out. However, I have to believe the effective loss of one of the main football properties would generate a lot of chaos, and chaos is good for someone who wants to change the status quo.
What he said!
The purpose of the GOR was two fold. First, it binds the schools to the conference for the period of the GOR. Second, it guarantees a certain amount of product at a certain price to the conference and to the networks. The GOR would be meaningless if all it took was a team to resign from the conference to break the GOR. Besides, the GOR and the By laws are very clear. Leave the conference and you leave your television rights to your home games behind.
Guessing but if adding teams means a pro rata increase in revenue, it would seem that losing a team would mean a pro rata decrease in revenue.
I can see one scenario that offers a way out. A very low probability scenario but one that might work. Suppose more dirt comes out on Baylor and a sufficiently large group of schools block sanctions, then another school/schools could argue that these actions constitute irreparable harm to that school or schools justifying their leaving the conference.
I’m one of the biggest advocates of leaving this conference but I’ve enough experience with contracts to know that it won’t be easy.
GOR doesn’t mention any specific price for inventory. It just mentions all revenue from inventory. The contract has the specific price.
No conference = No GOR
OU needs to gather as many schools together to leave as possible.
If Baylor gets death penalty (insane low probability) that’s one less school.
Where is this home/away game inventory info?
Theres no mention in the bylaws or GOR of this.. what doc am I missing?
GOR is a contract between the schools and the conference where the schools granted their TV rights to the conference. The conference sold those rights to the media.
Here’s an analogy. Suppose you have a mortgage with a bank. The bank sells your mortgage to another corporation. The first bank dissolves, the corporation still would hold your mortgage. If you don’t make your payments, the corporation can take your house.
A school only owns the television rights to their home games. In general, if a SEC team plays a B!G team, the conference network of the home team has the right to televise the game. In general, because the contract between the two teams may say something else but that would be uncommon.
The home team also pays the visiting team a contracted price for playing at the home teams location. That’s one reason why the GOR is so difficult to get around. You break the GOR, the network still gets to televise your game, the conference gets to keep the revenue, but you still have to pay the visiting team. The only revenue you get is for away games.
Bingo. The GOR contains no termination clause or a damages clause. Basically, it just presents an argument for negotiaions.
Some good articles
https://sportspolitico.com/2015/02/16/will-grant-of-rights-protect-big12-from-future-raids/
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/myth-of-the-big-12s-grant-of-rights-010313
There has to be some point at which you regain your rights. What is that point?
OK. I found my own answer, the GOR is for a term of years. So it doesn’t really matter. The only way to break it then is to break up the conference which won’t happen.
That, the expiration date of the GOR, is the easy way out. Any other way is probably just not going to happen. Wish it weren’t that way but realistically what else would one expect. The networks hire the very best lawyers. It ‘s unrealistic to think they didn’t cover all the bases.
Got it.
How you liking your new digs? How’s the wife doing?
The digs are pretty nice. Strange to be living in an apartment but nice to just call someone when the A/C isn’t working and not have to pay extra for it. My wife is doing OK. Her younger brother died suddenly so, on top of everything else, she is dealing with that. Physically, she is doing better, but better is probably never going to get to great. That’s just the nature of her condition.
And no grass to mow. Kind of miss my old apartment.
Sorry to hear about her brother. I lost mine a couple of years ago.
I was already paying someone to mow since I am allergic to anything green. Saves some money though. Her brother was kind of unexpected. He had some health problems but nothing thought to be that serious. It’s hard to deal with when you know it’s coming, even hard when it happens suddenly and unexpectedly.
OU will miss their chance with a LT stable conference if they wait until 2025.
SEC/B1G will expand to 16 way before 2025.
Its not inconceivable to see SEC/B1G make three or more times the amount the big 12 can pull in by 2025.
Eventually OU will have to grow a pair and leave.
We are too good of a school with several great athletic programs to watch the likes of Nebraska, Missouri, Indiana, Minnesota, Vanderbilt, Illinois, or Arkansas make significant amounts of more money. Money that could be used to build bigger better everything at our school.
Agree completely but the time is not quite right yet.
Once upon a time, a boss told me that you may know the answer to a problem but you have to wait until all the other answers have been shown to be unworkable before you advance your answer. If you move to soon, you’ll be taking fire from all sides. Wait until everyone is completely discouraged and fed up, then they’ll be glad to adopt your answer.
You get your rights back when seven schools say you do and the courts agree.
So we granted them in perpetuity? I don’t think so. I already looked it up, it’s a grant for a number of years. Which blows my general theory, but let’s be precise on what the actual terms are.
Yes, you’re right. I didn’t mean to imply we had granted them in perpetuity, only for the duration of the GOR.
BTW, the Big XII By Laws are for ninety-nine years. I think renewed annually. There are exit fees there as well.
The exits fees are two years worth of distributions, which given the current gap developing between the B-12 and the SEC or B10 means pretty much zilch. We lose $25 Mil and gain $40 Mil, wah. That’s assuming we wait until the GOR expires so the other conference gets the full value of our games.
Exactly right. I only mentioned the By Laws for completeness. We’re pretty much screwed until the GOR expires unless a miracle happens.
By the way, did you notice that a member can be “deemed” to have left the conference which would invoke the exit fees and the GOR clauses if the member says they are considering leaving? They can also be “deemed” to have left the conference if they are contacted by another conference about membership and they do not publicly refuse the offer and they must notify the conference within 12 hours of any such contact.
Yeah, the contact thing is pretty much unenforceable though. It happens all the time with coaches. Conference hires a “consultant” to evaluate who is available for expansion. Consultant contacts someone “familiar with the situation at Oklahoma” to determine their possible level of interest. No one at the conference or their agent ever talks directly to anyone at OU. The conference and OU both can say from a legal standpoint that they had no conversations with the other. Pretty much BS, but it is done all the time.
Sure, there are ways around the contact thing, but it does explain why Boren doesn’t talk more aggressively about leaving the Big XII.
The GOR ends June 30 2025..
This crap is grotesque legalese
blah blah blah blah bs
“End of Term or upon termination of this agreement”
There is no termination clause to the agreement.
Its completely open and unlimited…
The GOR is not so formidable. For example if OU left for the B1G, it is unlikely the TV revenue for the either conference would change because the same network(s) have contracts with both. So if Fox Sports had rights to OU home games, why would they care if OU was in the B1G since FOX owns 51% of the BTN?
Because FOX has to hand money for the OU games over to the B12 because they have the GOR and the B12 gets to keep that money. It doesn’t go to the B1G for distribution to us.
That is assuming Fox would change their payouts to the two conferences. I don’t see that happening until new contracts are negoiated.
If the payouts to the conferences don’t change then the B1G would have to require everyone to take a cut to bring in another school. That’s not likely to happen. The only reason they take another school is because it makes their contract worth more so they have more money to support the extra mouth to feed.
Perhaps, but if the GOR not so formidable, then why did the networks insist upon the GOR?
How did Neb and Col, Mizz and A&M leave?
I doubt Boren and the OU BOR would use this situation as a wedge to open the door for departure. Boren doesn’t want to leave this conference and his most recent press conference attests to his desire to ‘right the ship’ in the Little 12-2 and stay put…..Regardless of the Baylor punishment, I don’t think will ever lead OU of this league….He is confortable here , JC is confortable here, and both had rather stay mediocre than go to the SEC where upgrading all facets of the program would be required to stay competitive……..
Doesn’t change a thing. Need a super majority to expell/sanction baylor. That’s 75% of nine schools since Baylor would not have a vote. The vote to dissolve would also require a super majority also of nine, the remaining, schools. Seventy five percent of nine is 6.75 or seven schools. Can you name seven schools who would vote to dissolve? None of the little brothers or the Bevo Block (UT/TTU/TCU) would not so that’s not going to happen.
So what you are saying is a 6-3 vote would not cut it?
The By-laws require a super-majority to sanction a team, expel/add a team, dissolve the conference. Google Big XII by laws.
I’m not convinced that TCU is in the Bevo Block, I don’t think they are tied into Texas politics the same way. Still you are right about the vote to dissolve. For that to work you are going to need to have landing places for all seven schools. No P-5 conferences wants enough of these schools for that to work.
I guarantee you that people on the BOR knew. They sold their souls
Agreed – it seems almost impossible they didn’t know something considering the way this went down and their refusal to release much
The Pepper Hamilton report didn’t investigate what the board knew and when did they know it.
They hired to “investigate” the problem it and stopped right at the President.
Spare me.
I cant wait to see the hammer come down.
there always has to be ‘scapegoats’ when the sh** hits the fan…..in Baylor’s case , the HC was sacrificed but not the AD or school president. the fact both chose to later resign doesn’t absolve the Baylor BOR from neglect in ‘cleaning house’ since the entire assistant coaching staff remains intact !! I think there is little question the BOR is trying to con the public into believing the ‘problem’ has been fixed ; when in fact, nothing has changed except for the face of leadership….
there always has to be ‘scapegoats’ when the sh** hits the fan…..in Baylor’s case , the HC was sacrificed but not the AD or school president. the fact both chose to later resign doesn’t absolve the Baylor BOR from neglect in ‘cleaning house’ since the entire assistant coaching staff remains intact !! I think there is little question the BOR is trying to con the public into believing the ‘problem’ has been fixed ; when in fact, nothing has changed except for the face of leadership….
agreed.. that has been my thought for awhile and I don’t think either of us is wrong.
agreed.. that has been my thought for awhile and I don’t think either of us is wrong.
Every man in this Briles family needs to be castrated.
Dawg!
Give them the Theon treatment
Oh snap.. GoT reference.
Had to sneak one in.. I can’t wait til Sunday
I’m right there with ya.
The next three episodes are going to be a heck of a finish to the season.
Expecting lots of death, sex, and revenge.
Ohh I know! I’m ready to see this battle and who all gets in on it..
K said it last night and watching/listening to stuff this morning I feel it’s even more true.
I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a team/coach be less gracious in winning, or losing, than this Auburn team.
That’s why it will be even more sweet when we beat their ass tonight. Their coach is a doucher to the max.
Buttttttt its the sec!
Not only OU fans that have noticed, either. Their coach has quite the reputation and he’s rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
I cant believe what a prick that guy was. In the middle of the game, Holly Rowe asked about the walk-on shortstop who made a couple errors, but then hit a 3 run home run and he basically ssaid: “well, shes trying her best out there and we have to live with her”. just totally threw that poor girl under the bus.
Auburn’s HC
I’ve watched college softball for a long time, and I’ve never seen a team act the way this Auburn team acts. Attitude reflects leadership. And it’s fair to say their leadership is an ass.
I’ve watched college softball for a long time, and I’ve never seen a team act the way this Auburn team acts. Attitude reflects leadership. And it’s fair to say their leadership is an ass.
Auburn mirrors its HC…..Auburn is very confident it will win the NC tonight and there is every reason to agree : momentum, fresh pitcher, and the persona of its HC……
I like this move of Quick to DB even though it may not be permanent.
Ideal H/W/S. Depth. Competition.
Gives PJ legit competition (no offense to Dakota..) b/c Quick is explosive.
That’s going to be a camp battle to keep an eye on.
I just don’t understand why Quick has had such difficulty at WR. My on,y guess – besides maybe a hands issue- is he just doesn’t get a good read on coverages. My understanding of this offense is routes are not predetermined but give both WR and QB route options based on coverage. Maybe Quick isn’t so quick on diagnosis.
I expect he wasn’t going to see the field much..
If we play mix/perine on field at same time.
That leaves 3 WRs
I don’t see Dede/Andrews coming off the field.
1 spot on the outside.. and like 8 guys competing for it (Mead, Dahu, Baxter, Milner, Smallwood, Lewis. Ad miller, Todd)
Reallocating resources, Quick is a great athlete maybe he starts at DB
who knows.
To me it’s a compliment from the coaches to Quick. If he’s in the WR rotation, he may catch 1 – 3 balls a game. If he’s starting at CB, he’s a key player on every defensive down. Big difference. I would rather be a key player they a rotation guy.
“Maybe Quick isn’t so quick on diagnosis.” I think this is often the secret explanation when talented kids don’t see the field. The coaches watch these guys every day in practice and if they’re missing assignments, lining up wrong, not blocking, or not understanding what route to run, it’s not always apparent to the fan who just asks “why aren’t they playing.”
But that would be even worse for him as a DB. DB is all about reading and reacting.
In some ways yes. DB is also about leverage. You can leverage a player out of an area (by shading a side or being turned a specific direction) I to areas where you have help- a LB jumping the slant or safetyover top middle. If you’re locked man to man then certainly it’s about reading the WR.
Speaking to that about DBs I think that is why Ahmed Thomas got so much better once Parker moved into the starting safety slot. I think Thomas played with one eye on the other safety and was unintentionally shading to that side to get ready to cover up his mistake. Parker came on and has been solid in his assignments and decision making.
As someone else mentioned, his pro prospects at db are probably better.
Jordan, you might want to move the Dallas News articles into the $$$ section. I think you get a couple of free views, but after that you have to subscribe.
DMN is always free to me and im not subcriber
Good Morning Metz, me too, (I do, however, feel guilty for reading a texsa newspaper, but having said that, they are almost always more pro-Sooner, than our own local hacks at NewsOk, that usually give me the distinct impression that they want to exhibit OU in the worst possible light).
They cover RRR Great.
I don’t go there often, but have always been able. Provides more positive on OU than most other papers
Hmmm….I guess I’ll try again…it told me I had to subscribe, had the whole “hope you enjoyed your free articles” notice, etc.
This is what I get every time I try to access the article for the Baylor thing on Dallas News:
http://imgur.com/yhoiIwV
Ive been reading DMN Forever,not sure why you cant.DMN was probably the first i ever read online!
Only thing I can think of is I’m not in the OK/TX area, and it’s detecting that by my IP address?
Oh, really?
Yep, this is what I get when I click on the Baylor link you posted:
http://imgur.com/yhoiIwV
87 DTG
Gordon Brown – Mickey Jackson – Blake Ferguson
Blake Ferguson 02-04
Anyone know who the football campers are today?
Top o’ the mornin’ TFBs!! Hoping Michiah is quick to pick up CB and able to provide some real competition. Need the depth.
Mornin hOU!
He may be really good in that position. I suspect he has great potential or they wouldn’t have moved him. He was productive at receiver.
How is this even possible?
https://twitter.com/AlexDunlapNFL/status/740547495508344833
they think they can get rid of a couple head honchos but let all the assistants slide through the cracks since they are gonna keep the pepper Hamilton report from getting out..
They appear to have hired some political PR hacks. Unfortunately for them, the news cycle in sports doesn’t work the same way it does in the national media. In politics, manage the major networks and you control the message that is getting out (though social media is changing this). But the Internet and social media are a much bigger player in the sports news world. There aren’t any centralized organizations to manage. There are a lot of players to try and control. They don’t understand the rules of the game and the score is probably going to get run up on them.
Baylor had better hope those hard-hitting, investigating journos in Oklahoma don’t want to see the report. They could fight to the Supreme Court to get it released. We’ve seen how they operate.
If only Jenni Carlson was concerned with Bailor! I mean, she’s already been kicked off the Pokie State beat, probably isn’t too well liked by the OU folks, so Wacko seems like a good starting point for her new beat.
If only Jenni Carlson was concerned with Bailor! I mean, she’s already been kicked off the Pokie State beat, probably isn’t too well liked by the OU folks, so Wacko seems like a good starting point for her new beat.
Doing everything they can to keep from sending their football program back to the basement.. Which is extremely sad and hopefully the ncaa comes down hard as well as the fbi
I don’t see the NCAA doing much. I hope I’m wrong, but they caught so much grief for over-stepping their authority in the PSU deal that I think they sit on their hands here.
If they continue to leak more info and more students come out publicky, even though I’m sure their BOR already knows , they will be forced to do something..
We can hope.
IMO Bail or is trying to stop the bleeding. Sacrifice the HC, bring in an interim to stabilize the program. By not changing the Asst coaches, the existing team can play in a familiar play book. They probably felt this would also minimize the recruiting losses.
I have to believe that this will continue to burn Bail or and more coaches will be shown the door or they will lose their interim coach (if i was Grobe, that would be my move).
Desperate people do desperate things.
The more this drags on the more the death penalty is warranted!
If I’m Grobe, I’m not working with a bunch of known rape condoners.
I’m sending them packing or quiting.
How bad will that look on Baylor?
“Newly hired coach quits after Baylor refuses to let known condoners of rape remain on staff”…
They have to be fired.
Yeah, he comes with a high integrity rep and he wasn’t looking for a job as far as I know. So you’d think he would clean house and if they don’t like it he can go back to the house.
Grobe has nothing to lose here. If he has the integrity everyone is saying he does he can clean house. The BR aren’t going to fire him for doing the right thing. Can you imagine the negative publicity if they fire Grobe for doing what they said they were bringing him in to do? He holds all the cards!
Agreed.
Unless Regents tell him that’s how it’s going to roll. He either goes with it or quits.
That would be sad.
He owes them nothing and his rep is at stake.
I would walk and talk
Unless Regents tell him that’s how it’s going to roll. He either goes with it or quits.
TFB, any word on when Duverney will make an announcement? Shouldn’t all the 2016 kids be getting to campus soon?
2 days in a row with no OP on my lunch break. Come on guys!
The only cure for the summer time football blues is OP or More Cow Bell.
Cow bell good!
Saw a things I trust more than Hillary post and figured I would share my top 3.. Warning may offend some haha
Things I trust more than Hillary Clinton..
1. Relationships with Baylor students
2. Parish Cobb’s commitment
3. SEC recruiting tactic$
lol too funny
Maybe in bad taste but it’s all in good fun lol
Politics on a OU football board:
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11229408_10156001811520099_953549645987647239_n.jpg?oh=4495ce6b6e6cf0a0d5a06cd24d6e2a1b&oe=57C25EDD
Well it’s all in good fun for some people..
I find the graph both funny and factual.
This is true
Look at it as ‘Things I trust more than Ken Starr or Art Briles or Baylor in General’…
Then my graph won’t work in the conversation.
Which is why I didn’t edit the post.. Graph is approved for post
Mojo!
Shouldn’t you be in a meeting somewhere. We need an OP.
Nope!Didn’t work yesterday,all it got us was realignment-championship horn talk
Yeah, don’t want more of that. I want some talk about football or at least kids that might someday, if they are smart and virtuous, play football for the one true, the only University of Oklahoma.
Right on!
All we need to do is get ND to join. The rest will take care of itself!
Yes, and then maybe the two prima donnas (UT,ND) will kill each other and we can go on with our lives.
I left of the /s. It was all in jest, as I have never thought ND would ever seriously consider the Big12 after they inked their allegiance with the ACC. Yet a lot of others still think there is chance.
Leaving the /S off is not good im told.
Got it. To me the B12 taking ND is like the guy who’s having problems in his marriage thinking he would be better off if he had two wives.
Bazinga^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LOL
Absolutely! I’ve never personally wanted to share a conference with ND, but for a short while it looked like a possibility. At the height of that speculative period, they inked their deal with the ACC, so I’ve viewed it as a moot point since. Spot on analogy, Bob!
Fact! I think he missed yesterday’s meeting completely; cause no OP at all.
I wish,i am so tired of bayer crops Tuesday meetings.
Metz! How’s it?
Good been at work sense 4am pouring concrete.
I like pouring coffee better. Try it.
I have and redbull. Pouring tomorrow and Friday also.
Finally dry out for ya? Slow don and then catch up. The contractor’s dream.
You know it Mojo!
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/i-put-redbull-in-my-coffee.jpg
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
lol, thanks Bob that made me chuckle.
I would trust a fart before I would trust Hillary
Any one with ESPN In access? please copy past the b12 coaches dish on B12 anonymously
I can’t like this enough…
https://twitter.com/r0bertbarnes/status/740585390893993984
+1000
Is that Hines, the linebacker?
That’s who it looks like
No it’s Jaden Smith
Hines is with them. Barnes listed all of them on Twitter. See above post.
It’s Hines, Verone McKinley, Rambo, Barnes, and Reagor! I think we might hear a Boom today (hopeful) that is.
Gasso made the absolute right call not playing Parker last night. If she had pitched her, and lost, then it’s most probably that Auburn wins game three. By giving her a day’s rest, she’ll be ready to go tonight and gives us a much better chance to win. She also had a plan to play her if we got a lead in the 6th, but since that didn’t happen, she made the right call by leaving Chestnut in the game.
Even without our best pitcher, it took extra innings for Auburn to win, and I just don’t think they have it in them to score many runs on Parker.
I agree. Hate to see us lose to that team, but I do think it was the right call.
Bleed!
Afternoon Metz!
Afternoon!
No question that it was disappointing, and I always hate seeing Sooner teams lose…especially to an SEC school.
No question that it was disappointing, and I always hate seeing Sooner teams lose…especially to an SEC school.
You are right. Better a rested Parker in Game 3 than a tired Parker in Game 2 and no Parker in game three.
Is one day enough rest to pitch a full game? I don’t know enough about softball to really know. Sure would like them to close it out on auburn though.
Yes. She had pitched five days in a row before that. A softball pitch is a much more natural motion and doesn’t put as much stress on the arm. You see them pitch in consecutive days all the time, but six in a row is stretching pretty thin.
Gotcha. I was thinking it must be less stress than baseball, because pitching a full game in baseball wears that arm out.
The softball motion is pretty much a rotation around the shoulder which is the way the shoulder is made. The baseball motion has a lot of components some of which put a lot of strain on the joints.
Surprisingly, one day is huge for softball pitchers. Unlike baseball, there isn’t as intense stress on the shoulder for softball pitchers (it’s still there, just nowhere near the same). Physical exhaustion is more the issue, and I think everyone can agree that Page needed some rest.
Gotcha. My thinking was more attuned to baseball and pitching a full game there takes some recovery.
Yep. In many youth leagues now, there is a limit to innings a pitcher can throw. An effort to keep the shoulder injuries down. I don’t know if they do the same with youth softball, but the strain isn’t anywhere near the same.
Gotcha. My thinking was more attuned to baseball and pitching a full game there takes some recovery.
That was my thought. Sure, Parker may have been able to close out the series last night, but given how much she had thrown in consecutive days, the odds weren’t as good as they would be with a rested Parker. I liked that Gasso gave Stevens the chance to start (senior year, probably the last opportunity she’ll have), but it just wasn’t mean to happen for her.
In the end you have to trust that the two time NC coach knows more about her player’s capabilities than we do.
Haha. So true. Kinda similar to the armchair QB’s during football season…I don’t always agree with Bob, but I trust he knows just a tiny bit (a ton) more about his players than I do.
the back to back suicide squeeze bunts were brilliant.
Gasso went aggressive right out of the gate (probably knowing she needed to manufacture more runs that usual). It almost worked too.
Yeah, one run in the last five innings last night and we would be talking about Gasso’s brilliant moves rather than second guessing her choice.
That HR saving play the Auburn left fielder made sealed the game in my opinion. After she made that play, I just felt like it wasn’t going to happen for us (and we hadn’t done much of anything offensively in the last 5 innings). As much as it broke my heart, that was a heck of a play by the left fielder.
Awesome plays.
Awesome plays.
It took extra innings. That’s one of the keys that makes Gasso’s call completely ok. As shaky as some of the pitching was, both pitchers kept OU in the game. Based upon a 31 game win streak, it’s not unreasonable to expect the offense to provide a little more support during the remainder of the game. And, btw, they did. It took an all-time play by the Auburn outfielder to save the game.
Anyone else see Trae Young is staying to play his senior year of B-Ball at Norman North? That can’t be a bad thing for the Sooners.
Some folks are reading into the comment he released (about wanting to spend his final year at home). Thinking that it means he’s leaving home after next year. I don’t think that’s what he’s saying. Crutchfield staying at OU is huge for the likelihood of landing Young, as I think Crutchfield has the best relationship with Young (out of all the coaches recruiting him). I still think he’ll end up at OU, but you never know until it’s a done deal.
Bet the jenks coach got a fat raise lol.
These lurkers kill me sometimes. It’s like they have nothing to say, until something like last night happens then it’s “the coach sucks, burn it down, fire boren”. Some of them are posers from other schools and I get it, your school sucks at athletics and you wanna hate, but just remember at the end of the day….your school still sucks.
Hey the OP is up and no one told us!!!!!!!!!!!
Credit the Auburn coach for hitting the right buttons to keep his team upbeat and confident. We learned from the ‘Bama debacle a few years back just how important that is.
Judging by the post game presser, I think Gasso and the team understand it as well.
Tonight should be a fascinating game.