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4pm CST, btw. So I hope you asked off work early and/or set your DVRs.

Defintely wasn’t expecting this last night. Sure hope it’s not an indication of how this season is going to go for the women. I feel pretty confident in saying Sherri Coale teams almost always improve as the season goes on, but at the same time I’m just not sure how much difference-making talent there is on this particular team. Would LOVE to see them prove me wrong about that, though.

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616 Comments

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    No update on the JUCO running back deal???

    • Steve Cooke says:

      @jasonkersey: I have confirmed Keshawn Harris, who announced his commitment to OU today, has no OU offer — even to walk on. Strange situation all around
      Shared via TweetCaster

      • Jeremy Phillips says:

        Thing is, you can’t get real confirmation of that because OU can’t talk about prospective recruits.. & the kid still says he has an offer from Gundy… Totally bizarre..

        • Recondo says:

          I don’t see Gundy making an offer and nobody else at the university knowing anything about it. Maybe Gundy asked him to come to a camp or the kid received a form letter. It’s hard to believe he’s confused about the process since he already plays college ball but it sure seems strange.

        • MrBigsby says:

          The coaches could certainly answer yes or no to a direct question without saying his name, so you can get a real confirmation.

      • Swanny says:

        Sounds like a catfish thing to me honestly

        • Bob Edwards says:

          This is what would seem to make the most sense to me.

        • SoonerOracle737 says:

          Mmmm…catfish.

        • 47 Straight OU Know says:

          Sounds like he has an anterior motive. Can the University get in any kind of trouble for this. Might be a silent Baylor commit who is upset?

          • Bob Edwards says:

            No. The University can’t get in trouble because some random person claims something without proof. If this were some 4* RB that popped up and claimed this, then someone might be able to make some noise about it. But this kid doesn’t look like the kind we would offer in the first place. Everyone’s first response was “who?” It wouldn’t pass the sniff test if someone tried to use it against OU.

          • 47 Straight OU Know says:

            In this day and age of college football, stranger things have happened.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            If someone is trying they are not very good at it. If you were going to try and pull something like that you would need a player that someone would believe OU was going after. The more likely possibilities are that someone was catfishing the kid, he did it just to get attention, or he has some mental health issues.

          • 47 Straight OU Know says:

            I know now, it was Monte Teo.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            That kind of thing is what I would tend to believe. It assumes the kid is legit in what he is saying and also assumes that OU is.

          • Rick says:

            At 6-2 230 and 4.5 speed you would think everyone would have heard of him. But…

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            That is 4.5 speed in a 20 yard dash. Did you see his highlight video? Dude is pulling a sled big time.

      • thebigdroot says:

        @Keshawn_21: I have no reason to lie about committing to OU for next year and for anybody doesn’t believe me can ask @OU_CoachGundy if we spoke about it

    • Jordan Esco says:

      We posted the update yesterday. The commitment wasn’t legit. Not really much else to say is there? Somehow things got confused, not sure how or why at this point it really matters, but that’s JMO.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Boomer! Saturday focus for TCU. Very mobile qb, although looks like he’ll be hobbled.

    • SamSooner says:

      He might play but I don’t think he’s practicing this week for fear of injury. Which, in my opinion, would be a mistake. Don’t be surprised if they don’t play him. I certainly don’t think they will run him if he does play. It will be Stidham all over again.

      • soonerthunder says:

        I tend to disagree. He looked to me like he was walking off fine behind the trainers. If a guy is hurt the trainers don’t turn their back on the guy on the way to the locker. Also, later he was walking with a limp, but I believe that was because they put a boot on him. The reason he didn’t come back in the game is because it was KU, at home, and OU next week. If a guy is walking off the field without assistance and w/o a limp, the sprain is not serious, imo, and he will be 100%. OU better be ready for vintage Boykin, imo.

    • soonermusic says:

      I think if he can play at all, they’ll play him. They’ve no reason to hold back anything at this point. It’s make or break, so they’ll err on the side of giving him a shot, I imagine.

  • Recondo says:

    Glad to see Tapper and Navy QB getting some love this week. Can we get a running tally of weekly awards/ annual award finalists? Seem to be racking up quite a few. Also, I tend to like Guerin Emig’s writing, which makes me feel all icky to say about anything remotely associated with the Tulsa World.

  • Jake says:

    The stadium needs to be freakin’ berserk on Saturday!

    *Last Home Game
    *Championship Implications
    *Baker Heisman Campaign
    *Top 15 Opponent
    *Ton of big time recruits
    *An all-time Sooner Great, Sterling Shephard’s final home game

    *Most importantly, killing the Katy Perry Curse.

    BOOM

    • Cory Reedy says:

      And it’s Gary Patterson. You KNOW….he wants nothing more than to come into Our house and catapult his own team back into contention. We better not over-look these guys. TCU always plays us tough. We do need an electric atmosphere.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I think it’s going to be a great atmosphere. It was pretty darn good for the ISU game, and that was ISU.

      • Jake says:

        I completely agree. I can’t help but continue to feed the hype train though, lol.

        The ISU game was pretty impressive IMO, considering the opponent.

    • MoJoOkie says:

      Senior’s night.

    • Scott says:

      OU jump around , fans need to be crazy.

    • Dailen says:

      Driving down from Omaha, NE on Friday to watch the boys play basketball that night, and will be at Memorial Stadium on Saturday! Should be a helluva weekend– BOOMER!!

  • 47 Straight OU Know says:

    Good Morning fellow Brainiacs. Got my paper turned in last night, turned out to be 14-pages instead of the 7 asked for. I will let you know the results once I have them. Ohhh and by the way yes “It’s a great day to be a SOONER”, Is there any doubt? Focus, Focus, Focus on TCU. And if anybody is going to the game that does not intend on being loud, go ahead and give them to me and I will show you how it is done.

    • SamSooner says:

      47, great job. I’m proud of you. Great job of giving more than what was asked of you. I’m sure your professor is looking forward to reading your paper. Your paper could very well be the measuring stick for the entire class.

      If you ever feel overwhelmed from the demands of school and things going on in your personal life, just remember this: “Win Today.” Be your best today and when tomorrow comes, well, you know.

      Congratulations and may you have God’s favor for the remainder of your life.

      • 47 Straight OU Know says:

        Thank You!!! And even in the bad times I have always been blessed. Did not seem like it at the time, but he has a purpose for each and every one of us. And may you and yours be blessed as well. 🙂 And I do believe that I was the first to turn one in, so I have that going for me.

        • SamSooner says:

          Suck up. Teacher’s pet. Over-achiever! LOL!

          Good job and thanks!

          • 47 Straight OU Know says:

            Never was in high school, so I have tried to set my goals higher. And yes I am the favorite in every class. That’s what happens when you actually pay attention.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            LOL! That was me. I was a decent HS student, getting by without trying very hard. But I graduated from college with a 4.0. I was worried about how much harder the work would be and I paid attention and put in just a bit more effort than I did in HS.

          • 47 Straight OU Know says:

            That is awesome. I was the kid sleeping in every class in HS. Highest GPA I had was a 1.17. Shooting for the honor roll in college, but not getting my hopes to high. Because as they say no one will be harder on me than myself.

          • Clay Davis says:

            Showing up for class and doing the work doesn’t make the honor roll (or even passing the class!) automatic, but it sure makes a big difference.

          • 47 Straight OU Know says:

            Focus, Will and Determination. Leads to Hard work, Dedication and Loyalty.

          • Golfluvr13 says:

            I was great in math, science, history, government, and pe & weights. But I had a hard time with English. I never have understood the need to diagram a sentence. LOL! I was an average B student in HS without trying very hard. My goal was to keep my grades good enough that I could play sports. Until after my senior year of basketball when I learned I really was not good enough to play D-1 basketball.

          • SamSooner says:

            Touche’. The best is yet to come.

          • metzker says:

            Excellent Scorpions song
            ( Best is yet to come )

    • Golfluvr13 says:

      Great job on the paper. No matter what the grade, I am sure you learned a lot and now have more confidence to write those papers going forward!

    • Jed says:

      Hardest step: stopping procrastinating so that you leave yourself time to do the rewrites that get it back down to 7.
      But don’t worry, it only takes most of us into our early 40’s to get there.
      Congrats on getting the monkey off your back.

  • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

    Screw the TCU Corn Dogs!

  • Golfluvr13 says:

    Good Morning Sooners!

  • Golfluvr13 says:

    Top 2 items in the list are about the Sooners. And it looks like Shep broke the pylon cam!

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25376574/these-10-things-meet-moxie-mayfield-your-new-football-crush

    • Recondo says:

      Saw this last night. Hope Iowa wears those unis when we beat them for the NC. How about Harvard’s band? Keepin’ in classy.

  • SamSooner says:

    I hope the fans who attend the game this Saturday are like our TFB friend Robertson / Robertson 2016: Off the freaking hook.

    • Rick says:

      During the press conference yesterday, Stoops was asking for the crowd to spend the extra hour to get “charged up” before the game and get rowdy.

  • Jordan Esco says:

    Sorry, meant to include this in the post today but forgot.
    https://twitter.com/Jordan_Esco/status/666627066670878720

  • JSam says:

    If you haven’t read Emig’s “Never Again” article, you need to do it right now. We have been very fortunate to have some young men of great character in leadership positions. They faced some unprecedented adversity – mostly off the field. But the challenges on the field are what forged their solidarity that informed how they faced the off-field incidents.

    When we look back at the bounce back of Sooner football, it is these young men who are at the heart of it. When their playing days are over, any of these guys should be welcomed back to get their start in coaching should they want to pursue it.

    Cannot wait to hear the volume of the crowd for Senior Night on Saturday when seniors like Shep, Striker, Tapper and Darlington are recognized… They stood up and took responsibility to lead the team and we see the results. Great job, men.

    • Golfluvr13 says:

      That was a great article! I like how they discussed that when the 7 leaders got together they would argue sometimes for hours. But they seem to have worked it all out!

    • john garner says:

      Looking forward to kicking the crap out of TCU but not to losing such great young men. Skill can be replaced, but character and leadership not so easily.

    • john garner says:

      Looking forward to kicking the crap out of TCU but not to losing such great young men. Skill can be replaced, but character and leadership not so easily.

  • Chris White says:

    Wow we’re going to miss Sterling Shepard!

  • h-townsooner says:

    Reading that Tulsa World article makes me so proud to be a sooner! This team deserves the world because of the way they have battled adversity and unified, and I have never really seen this much strong leadership in a Sooners team.
    As much as a care about #8 I’m so proud of this team already that I will be happy with any outcome. That being said….
    #BeatTCU
    #Baker4Heisman

  • Matt says:

    I may have posted this on here already but I’m particularly worried about Mayfield winning the Heisman. Worst case:we could get a Striker-Watson (or whoever actually wins) moment similar to 2000 Marshall-Weinke

  • Chris White says:

    Speaking of Sterling, everyone take 3 seconds and vote!!

    https://twitter.com/kenny_mossman/status/666623479345713153

  • Stephen Dale says:

    after watching the OU ladies team , it is clear that Sherri lacks a quick , penetrator guard. way too many outside shots…..maybe G Carter will provide the missing quickness when she returns…. Soonerettes also lack a power forward to help Williams on the boards. Manning is not the answer ……………

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      It’s time for Sherri to enjoy a well-deserved retirement.

    • Oscar says:

      All I could do was watch the ESPN game cast. Was that Criner player for N.T. that good? She seemed to win the game for N.T. in the stat line.

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    Question for anyone listening: I had a chance to rewatch the game a couple times now, and looked at the play where Mixon got his helmet knocked off. I’d sure like to know how the blazes that didn’t warrant a flat for targeting. After deliberate helmet to helmet contact, the guy even has the nerve to get up and start screaming in Mixon’s face. The little turd obviously didn’t get the memo that Baylor is still #2 in this league.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    “Last January when we came together we resolved not to let it happen again. We weren’t perfect, and we haven’t been perfect since then. But there has definitely been a resolve of leadership that we’re going to take it upon ourselves to do what we need to do to take this team to where we should be as a program, and honor the tradition we had before us.”–Ty Darlington

    that feller sure is a good leader to have

  • Daddy R says:

    Here is Stoops on an interview with Scott Van Pelt. Pretty classic Stoops, especially at the end, with regards towards the SEC.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14151281/bob-stoops-win-oklahoma-sooners-college-football-playoff

    Stoops: “….and ya know we went on the road to Tennessee and won, and beat one of those SEC teams.” (he says with a sh*t eating grin…)

    Van Pelt: “I’m aware what conference they are in, Thank you coach Stoops..” Or something like that.. HA!

    • rainydaze114 says:

      If there’s any coach that can talk sh-t on the SEC, it’s Stoops. He’s fared pretty well against them.

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Perroni switched his pick for Speights to OU.

  • SamSooner says:

    Folks, if you haven’t voted for Shepard to advance in the Biletnikoff Award, do so. Don’t forget to vote on all of the devices you own, including the devices owned by your neighbor and Uncle Bob, and Uncle Bob’s uncle and…

    I believe this is the correct link: http://biletnikoffaward.com/fan-vote

  • soonermusic says:

    “We failed in the secondary a year ago,” said Stoops. “But Jordan Thomas and [sophomore safety] Steven Parker are a year older. We’re just much older in the secondary, and that maturity is paying off.” It was remarkable and exciting to watch the number of times that the downfield coverage was responsible for letting the line get to the qb. Admittedly it probably helped that he was a freshman and that it was raining, but none the less, the downfield coverage was often outstanding.

  • soonermusic says:

    One week at a time, but I guess we need Okie State to squeak past Baylor in a 65-64 game with no defense….

  • Tex'ish says:

    Sooners ranked 7th in Playoff Rankings. http://espn.go.com/college-football/playoffPicture

    • Gary Robbins says:

      #7 this week
      #5 after TCU victory
      #4 after OSU victory
      #1 after national championship game, more important #8 National Championships.

    • PCSooner says:

      Those aren’t the playoff rankings. That is just sorted by the AP rankings. Playoff Rankings don’t come out until tonight. Once the Playoff Rankings are released, those rankings will go in the CFP column that is currently blank.

  • Gary Robbins says:

    Just looked at the OP’s visitor’s list for this week-end. Is there a real “Boom” in the near future? About one every 10 days would be nice.

  • fistfullofsammiches says:

    Has anyone else heard the rumblings about a player testing positive for banned substances? I’m not going to elaborate any further because I don’t want to fire up the rumor mill. I keep hearing bits and pieces of some potentially very shitty news. Can anyone else weigh in?

    • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

      Don’t speak that evil here!

    • EasTex says:

      Your first comment here?
      /dubious

      • fistfullofsammiches says:

        sorry?

        • Bob Edwards says:

          He’s dubious of your comment, since it’s the first you have ever posted here and your first post is some sort of scandal mongering.

          • fistfullofsammiches says:

            I’m a long time reader and usually don’t have anything to add to the conversation. I am intentionally being vague because all I have are some rumors I heard and it would be disrespectful to start accusing people of things.

            This place is the most connected group of sooner fans I know of. I thought maybe someone else knew more than I did. I’d say don’t shoot the messenger, but I don’t even have a message. Just a question.

            Boomer!

          • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

            It was Siebert, wasn’t it? I knew that leg was too good to be true.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            I was translating what EasTex said not necessarily making a judgement. Just recognize that one of the standard markers of an Internet troll is to come in and start posting negative stuff about the locals. Low post count and high negative content are troll city. The often couch it in things like “I heard this rumor.”

            he solution is to post often enough that people know when you bring up something like this you are a fan and not some troll.

          • fistfullofsammiches says:

            I follow you. I never asked anyone to believe me. I asked others for corroboration. There was no hear ye….hear ye moment. I also don’t want any of what I heard to be true. Honestly, warm welcomes like this one are why I don’t post on here.

          • Bill Holder says:

            Why not just surf the post to see if there is any info? If there was, one or more of the regulars on here would have said info and would have shared.

  • Angryinch says:

    Bob Stoops is ready for TCU http://i.imgur.com/k4Xe4us.gif

  • thebigdroot says:

    @Keshawn_21: I would like to apologize to the university of Oklahoma I was told something different I will not be attend OU next year…

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      Poor kid! I think he honestly misunderstood. Best of luck to him wherever he ends up!

      • Bob Edwards says:

        I do notice that he doesn’t say who “told something different.” Sounds like he may have been scammed by someone.

  • SoonerGoneEast says:

    So last week #14 OSU beats #08 TCU and jumps six spots with #02 LSU & #07 Michigan State having lost. This weekend with us being ranked 12th and beating the #06 team in Baylor, where do we end up at with #07 Stanford, #09 LSU and #10 Utah having lost in front of us? Do we jump Okie Lite with their poor showing at ISU for the #06 spot? Maybe.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      OSU doesn’t matter since we still play them. Assuming we are at #7 OSU and one of Iowa/tOSU have to lose putting us at #5. So we just need one of the ones ahead of us to lose and we should be in. Or someone like ND to win but be unconvincing enough that our three big wins at the in let us jump them.

      • SoonerGoneEast says:

        Yeah, it works itself out with the teams within our division, I guess I just like to try and decipher the CFP committee’s thought processes in advance. My biggest concern is with ND, considering the outcomes with our common opponent. If the eyeball test means anything, though, they have to put us above them if we win out.

        I’m also a little concerned what happens to our ranking when we sit idle in the final week.

        • Bob Edwards says:

          The problem with the “eyeball test” is that, if Joe Klatt is right, the committee is being dominated by a couple of old Big-10 guys. Their eye seems to favor old school offenses over the more modern ones.

          • SoonerGoneEast says:

            It’s hard to argue. And I don’t think the two or three years Jeff Long spent at OU will count for anything either. Basically we have little to no representation.

          • Drew says:

            Here’s hoping that dogfight with Baylor got their attention then.

  • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

    You know, I’m not sure I’ve ever personally met a TCU fan. Do they exist?

  • metzker says:

    updates on visitors running back looks good

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    I still love watching Bob Stoops stick it to the SEC. Some things just never get old 🙂

    • BigJoeBrown says:

      Stoops was the groundbreaking coach to call out the SEC. It seemed like other universities or media just accepted. But it was Stoops that broke the mold.

      • Soonerfandave84 says:

        Charles Arbuckle and Ryan McGee both said last night on Championship drive that the SEC isn’t as good as advertised. I had to rewind it just to make sure I hadn’t nodded off and was dreaming it.

  • Zack says:

    Waiting for the committee to jump unc into the top 6. And having Arkansas appear in the top 15

  • Soonerfan24 says:

    Demetric Warren just predicted Brandon Burton to OU!

  • KJ1123 says:

    Awesome quote by Bob:
    “We beat Tennessee, you know, one of those SEC teams…”

  • Mike Reed says:

    I like these quotes from the Stewart Mandel article …..

    Ohio State QB J.T. Barrett says…..”You don’t have to be your best now, you don’t have to be your best when there’s two games left in the season,” Barrett said Saturday. “You want to be at your best at the end of the year.”

    OU Defensive Coordinator Mike Stoops said……
    “We’re playing our best football right now,” “It’s a good time to be playing your best football.”

    I’m pretty sure Stoops has it right. This is the perfect time to be peaking and playing your best football. I think Ohio State goes down in one, if not both of their next 2 games to Michigan State and Michigan.

    • SoonerGoneEast says:

      If Ohio State makes it past both of them, it won’t be the same Ohio State we’ve been watching all year.

      • Mike Reed says:

        I agree. They’ve have looked fairly pedestrian all season. They’re about to get punched in the mouth.

    • Jake says:

      My problem with Ohio State is all the passes they receive based on sheer history (last year’s NC) and talent. I give all the credit in the world to them for both of those aspects, but that doesn’t change the lackluster play they’ve displayed.

      ***I think they’ll lose simply because you end up playing how you practice. They’ve been practicing season-long average play, and a quality team is going to take them out because of it.

      • Cush Creekmont says:

        Just like FSU last year was riding on the year before and got kicked in the final 4. And like FSU, IF (big, all cap IF) tOSU is undefeated, they deserve to get in – pretty much any P5 undefeated champion deserves to get in.

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      If they lose one or both of those games, then I think they will completely tumble down the rankings. Talking heads and others are giving them the benefit of the doubt because they are the “defending national champions.” WRONG. They are defending anything. That was last year.

  • Birddawg says:

    Stoops on the herd live

  • leatherneck1061 says:

    What’s also interesting is how Bob has effectively silenced the critics.

    A few years ago a bunch of talking heads lampooned him for calling out SEC propaganda as, well, propaganda. Nowadays he can go anywhere and say what he likes, and the response is crickets. Bottom line, Bob succeeded in making these guys look like fools. For the time being at least, he has clearly won the argument, and there is simply nothing they can say anymore. It’s absolutely perfect.

    • SoonerGoneEast says:

      And hopefully we make the playoff and get to square off with another SEC team, Bama probably. I think we’re a better team, top to bottom.

      • Rick says:

        Bama is one dimensional, always will be under Saban. They match up greatly against pro style teams, or the “run the big back to the left, run the big back to the right, throw an incomplete pass, punt”. They will dominate a game like that, (LSU), they struggle against high powered offenses, if they get behind, they are done.

        • SoonerGoneEast says:

          Kirby Smart is a heckuva coach, but you’re right, they’re been susceptible to hurry-ups and spreads or anything not three yards and a cloud of dust.

          Another thing, I’m not impressed with anything Lane Kiffin has done.

          • Rick says:

            Lane gives you a safe, high percentage, boring offense, that in my opinion is a “trying not to loose, not trying to win offense”. Works great if you can get the lead and control the other team defensively.

          • Walter Sobcek says:

            Agreed, and they, like the rest of the sec, do not have very good or consistent QB play.

        • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

          Agreed. LSU’s big mistake against Bama and Arkansas is to, well, play like LSU.

          Playing into Bama’s strength is a fool’s errand. Play to their weakness. Make their LBs run sideline to sideline. Make their DBs cover all day long.

      • Walter Sobcek says:

        I hope we get to play an sec team anywhere – playoffs or bowl game.

      • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

        I think we match up against them well. Not sure we’re better than they are. However, what it takes to win is simply scoring one more point that our opponent.

    • Cush Creekmont says:

      I agree with your assessment. The NC by tOSU beating the “mighty” Alabama in the first round helped to shut-up some of that sec, sec, sec, media chant.

      It bothers me no end how sec teams beating others “shows” how difficult the sec is, but not so for any other conference. Seems the PAC should start yelling that, but Bristol CONNECTICUT is not near the west coast to hear.

      • SamSooner says:

        All conferences have turned their eyes to the SEC. If they are on the SEC is on their OOC schedule, the calendar is marked. Everyone is gunning for the SEC, that’s when the SEC schedules a P5 OOC team.

      • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

        If a team in the Big12 or Pac12 scores a lot of points, then it’s because of terrible defenses. The *roll eyes* are numerous.

        If a SEC team scores a lot of points, then it’s because that team is just THAT DAMN good on offense. The number left nonplussed is unlistable.

  • David Luc says:

    Phillip, King of Macedon and father of Alexander the Great to the Spartans:“If once I enter into your territories, I will destroy ye all, never to rise again.”
    The Spartans reply: “If.”

    We’re all riding a wave of enthusiasm and energy after a Game Day win on the road against a highly ranked rival and getting big time media coverage as we approach the CFP final selections. Its all good. The conversation seems like it’s evolving from ‘If OU wins out …’ to ‘When OU wins out’. If I’m TCU – I’m donning my 300 armor and getting ready for the onslaught of the Persians. What do they have to lose? Until the time expires in Stillwater Saturday after next – ‘If’ remains a mighty big word.

    Go OU – beat TCU.

    • EasTex says:

      The end result of the battle of the 300 vs Persia was not pleasant.
      /just sayin’

      • metzker says:

        Bam

      • David Luc says:

        But their stand stymied the Persians and thwarted their momentum, eventually leading the Greeks to victories that followed. The point being that confidence is good – hubris is a slippery slope.

        • Bob Edwards says:

          I fail to see how anyone here using when versus if is going to have an effect on what happens on the field.

          • David Luc says:

            You don’t think that the chatter on the web and in the media is part and parcel of the overall mindset on campus and around the state? Further – that inflated projections cannot influence the attitude and approach of the team itself? The positive media attention is great, and necessary in building and sustaining momentum into the playoff selection, but with much of this I’m seeing more counting the chickens before hatching than is probably healthy – or even productive.

            Meanwhile, I’m tuning up the antennae on my tinfoil helmet in preparation of broadcasting “Win OU” vibes onto Owen Field this Saturday night. It usually works. :->

          • Bob Edwards says:

            The chatter on here does not cause what you are talking about, if anything it is an effect of it. I have been watching OU for close to a half a century. People were talking then like they are talking now. There was no Internet, no message boards, no talk radio. Very little of that kind of thing was discussed in the media. But people still talked about it.

            So to answer your question: No I don’t think this message board is part of the problem. It’s always been there this is just another place it shows up.

          • David Luc says:

            p.s. re: the original post. Neither Phillip nor Alexander invaded Sparta – they simply backed them into a corner and let them wither on the vine.

        • EasTex says:

          True, though pyrrhic victories are a mixed bag. 🙂

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      Ding, ding, ding! No more calls please, we have a winner.

    • SamSooner says:

      Don’t you see the irony in your post: OU is the 300.

    • SamSooner says:

      In all seriousness, David. What we say here doesn’t matter. We’re not preparing nor are we playing in this game. I can assure you the players have made it pretty clear, they’re not listening to anyone outside of the program. I forget he player who said it but to paraphrase: We didn’t listen to anyone after the texsa game and we’re not listening to anyone now.

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      “And I was there ….” – Gen George Smith Patton

    • Walter Sobcek says:

      But he also once said, “But couldn’t we just slip into Sparta quickly for some feta and hummus?”

    • soonerthunder says:

      The Spartan city was actually Laconia. That’s where we get the word “laconic–using few words.”

  • Fear The Magic says:

    No betting line out yet on TCU / OU Im guessing OU – 8

    What do you all say the line will be Over or Under

    • Cush Creekmont says:

      The game may stay off-the-board due to QB uncertainty. Vegas takes NO chances when it comes to money.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        Im going under the assumption that Boykin plays

        • Walter Sobcek says:

          I think they both will.

          • Fear The Magic says:

            Im almost sure of it

          • Exiled In Ohio says:

            There’s a big difference in Boykin playing and Boykin running the ball. I don’t think TCU has much chance without Boykin’s scrambling.

          • Fear The Magic says:

            I pretty much expect Boykin to be 100%. I think Patterson just held him out because it was Kansas. Im not falling for the bad ankle thing and if anything it was minor.

          • SamSooner says:

            OU has bottled up some pretty good running QBs this year. This defense is much better than it was at the beginning of the season.

          • Rick says:

            Sam, I think this may be the best D, we’ve fielded since sometime in the early 2000’s

          • SamSooner says:

            Across the DL, I agree. All of the DL is getting to the QB and making plays in the backfield.

          • Rick says:

            Boykin being simply a drop back passer would look something like Knight, last year when they didn’t want him to run and risk a collision. That’s Boykin’s mojo to run/pass keep you confused. He’s the real deal healthy.

          • Rick says:

            The most recent news articles list the two as “hopeful, doubtful, or questionable.” So I’m quite sure you are at least partially right or wrong, depending on the slant of the article.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        No, they will release a line. They nearly always release a line, even when uncertainties exist. I’m guessing we have a line by mid-day Thursday at the latest.

    • SamSooner says:

      Having watched OU, and knowing they have yet to play a perfect game, I’d say 21 points.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Sooners -7.5 O/U 77

      If both Boykin and Doctson are 100%

    • SamSooner says:

      55-20 OU wins.

      • metzker says:

        52 -24 BOOM

      • soonerthunder says:

        just looked this up:

        Against common opponents:
        OU averages = 48.1 ppg; against OU = 18.8
        TCU averages = 42 ppg; against TCU = 28.7

        Last 5 games:
        OU averages = 55 ppg; against OU = 16.8
        TCU averages = 37.8 ppg; against TCU = 28.4

        I’m going to say the same thing I did about Baylor; I assume OU’s D is good enough to keep them under 40, and I don’t think they can keep us under 45 (this assuming Boykin and Dockson are fine). I’d say something like 52 for OU (because their defense is worse than BU’s and b/c it’s a home game), and I think our O can keep their O at about 35 if they are full go. So 52-31.

        If no Boykin, I’ll say you are about right.

      • Recondo says:

        I think I went 55-21 on the Picker.

    • Kelly Gurbcock says:

      The line is officially off the board due to Boykin’s status.

      • Rick says:

        I was wondering about that, I found it interesting the Baylor/oSU game was pickem

        • Walter Sobcek says:

          Even with Stidham banged up, I like the Bears.

          • Rick says:

            It’s really hard to like the Pukes even when they are the best team.

          • Walter Sobcek says:

            True, but I’m not convinced they’re better than Baylor, even with the freshman QB. It’s going to be very interesting.

          • Fear The Magic says:

            All things being equal, even with Stidham Baylor seems to be the better team. The thing is OSU seems to have lady luck on their side all year. Like they made a deal with the devil.

          • Bill Holder says:

            As I’ve said before, the refs are for some reason always on their side.

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    A linebacker named Nacho is visiting this weekend? Please let him end up at OU. After every tackle, the crowd can yell “NNAAACCCCCHHHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

  • Soonerfandave84 says:

    Thinking about the Playoff and scenarios to help the B12…
    OU wins out, OSU wins by a decent margin over Baylor
    Auburn upsets Bama, Ole Miss wins the SEC West & beats UF in CG
    even better if FSU beats UF
    Clemson loses to UNC in ACC CG
    Stanford beats ND, loses to USC in the PAC-12 CG
    (ND falling makes Clemson’s win less impressive)
    tOSU loses to Sparty and Michigan, MSU upset by PSU
    Michigan wins the B1G CG over Iowa in an ugly game

    that’s a lot of things to go right but it’s possible the B12 could get 2 teams in. oh and very possible some of that does happen and opens the door for the B12 champ to not be sitting there worried on Selection day, which could be a week late if Navy doesnt lose to Houston or stumble at Tulsa

    • rainydaze114 says:

      Really just need ND to lose to Stanford.

      • BoomerDave says:

        Or we look impressive against TCU and OSU.

      • Soonerfandave84 says:

        Never said OU is eliminated if none of those things happen. But we wouldnt have to worry come selection day if those things do happen.

        • rainydaze114 says:

          Well, we know either UF or Bama will have to lose one more. Same with Iowa and tOSU. ND is the only team that I see being a problem for OU.

      • soonerthunder says:

        or Mich St to beat OSU, or FL to beat Bama. If any of those things happen and we win out, I think we’re in. I predicted it before the season started.

    • BoomerDave says:

      So…basically what you are saying is that almost everyone but OU and OSU has 2 losses. I think that would just open the door for a non-Power 5 such as Houston. The SEC will not be left out, period. Same with the Big 10. That just leaves 2 spots.

      • JD says:

        Didn’t Bama and LSU just have a replay a few years ago..I suppose its possible to have two B12 teams (either OU and OSU in a close bedlam…or OU and Baylor with BU beating down on OSU). A LOT would have to happen for that scenario (pretty much everything you listed lol)

    • Mr. Jones says:

      I would be very happy if:
      1-OU wins out
      2-Stanford beats Notre Dame
      3-Bama loses to anyone

    • Angryinch says:

      I would like OU to be in final poll ranked 2nd or 3rd so they play in Cotton Bowl would be almost a home game.

  • Golfluvr13 says:

    I’ve been hearing a rumor that the post game handshake between Stoops and Briles was not a very “nice” one on Briles behalf. After the camera panned away Briles covered his mouth and cussed Bob up and down from what I hear. And I would totally expect that from Briles.

    • Easton says:

      I think it was determined that he said “Good luck the rest of the way”. But I would imagine that he would say something like that.

    • Birddawg says:

      An arrogant texan with a huge ego just got his ass handed to him on primetime.
      I don’t expect any pleasantries.
      His team is about to lose to another Oklahoma school this week.
      I’m sure he wont be any different then either.

    • eastoksooner says:

      What would he have cussed him about? Bob didn’t do anything other than beat him.

      • Recondo says:

        He even took knees with almost 2 min left when he could have scored again.

      • Golfluvr13 says:

        I don’t know. Someone I know said something about it, they were there but only got bits and pieces of it. I guarantee Bob would never mention it. I thought it was funny because Briles looked like he was doing everything within his power to get off the field as quickly as humanly possible.

    • BoomerDave says:

      I doubt that happened, but who knows.

    • Boomer4life says:

      Bob told me he just said you have one hell of a team and good luck the rest of the way.

      • Cush Creekmont says:

        If Briles said that, he did so with his hand over his mouth. Because that is how Briles approached Stoops with the post-game camera on them. Other than BS saying the “good game & good luck” part, no other words are audible.

    • DrewChubbs says:

      I’m sure he felt the need to tell Coach Stoops that our players were overly aggressive and poor sports. And that any extra-curricular activity his players were involved in was just misunderstanding and taken out of context. He doesn’t strike me as a guy that can honestly acknowledge the faults on his own side. He probably even threatened retribution next year.

    • Clint Lenard says:

      I did find it odd that he covered his mouth when they went to shake hands. Only an asshole covers their mouth so the TV viewers can’t read lips…otherwise there’s no need for it.

  • john garner says:

    SIAP, but I just left the ESPN CFB page and the most recent tabulation of votes for the Heisman has Henry at No.1 and Baker No. 2. Win out and we could compete for NC #8 and our 3rd Heisman under Stoops. Oo-ah!

  • EasTex says:

    Haven’t seen this posted. Shep needs your vote.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/feature/index?page=caponecup

  • OuRedRules says:

    Great article by Emig. I think this is what this team has lacked for a long time, leadership from the players. Anyone who still thinks Darlington needs to be replaced needs to think again. There is more to playing football than just physical ability( see Sean Oakman). Really proud of these players and the senior leadership. Win out and leave no doubt.

  • BleedCrimson says:

    Good win for the Sooner Men’s team against Memphis.

  • RonBurgundy says:

    Mo better stats for Mayfield if not for the drops.

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    With all the love we’re getting, and the problems TCU is having, this week is sounding a lot like the Texsa week.

    We need to be ready for a well-coached, well-prepared, motivated TCU.

  • Bluegrass Sooner says:

    Sooners #7 this week. Definitely lots of chances to move up.

    • Birddawg says:

      Exactly where Ohio st was this time last year

      • Sooner Ray says:

        You are correct but, without their CCG, they didn’t stand a chance. Being idle that weekend when we are already being disrespected will all but eliminate us.

        • Recondo says:

          Yeah but either OhSt or Iowa will lose and if we beat #6 OSU on the road it would be hard not to move OU in front of ND. We are ok.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Hope you’re right. I don’t see us winning out good enough at this point, we need a couple losses ahead of us to force the committee’s hand. They seem to have an agenda and this is the problem with humans.

          • Easton says:

            Comment of the entire damn show tonight. Right here.

          • Fear The Magic says:

            Unfortunately you are correct.

        • Birddawg says:

          If no CCG hurts us, it should hurt Notre Dame too.
          Every week that goes by their schedule looks weaker.
          Clemson being a “good” loss.
          We will need help to get into the playoff.

  • Defend Colfax says:

    1. Clemson (10-0)
    2. Alabama (9-1)
    3. Ohio State (10-0)
    4. Notre Dame (9-1)
    5. Iowa (10-0)
    6. Oklahoma State (10-0)

    7. Oklahoma (9-1)
    8. Florida (9-1)
    9. Michigan State (9-1)
    10. Baylor (8-1)
    11. Stanford (8-2)
    12. Michigan (8-2)
    13. Utah (8-2)
    14. Florida State (8-2)
    15. LSU (7-2)
    16. Navy (8-1)

    17. North Carolina (9-1)
    18. TCU (9-1)
    19. Houston (10-0)
    20. Northwestern (8-2)

  • Defend Colfax says:

    Herbstreit is telling it straight.

  • Zack says:

    Tcu behind five 2 loss teams. And I think they are the only team who won last week that fell in the poll.

    Edit: northwestern also fell after a win.

  • Birddawg says:

    Kirk has got the Sooners back.
    Really came out pro Sooner

  • Birddawg says:

    Iowa is better than OU and OSU… Bologna
    Iowa should be ranked in the 20’s.

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    LOL, Jeff Long just said that Iowa was “better” than both OU and OSU.

    What a joke. These idiots don’t think the Big 12 plays defense, but it shouldn’t matter. Iowa is balanced? Please. Iowa is not a good team, and OU would wipe the floor with them. Do I have a problem with them being ranked ahead of OU right now? No, I don’t. But don’t tell me they are ranked ahead of OU b/c they are the better team. They aren’t. More deserving b/c of their resume? Probably. Better? Give me a break.

    Big 12 is fighting an uphill battle here, and that is a shame.

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      Iowa doesn’t matter. If they beat tOSU, they’re in and tOSU is out. If they don’t, they’re out.

      • SoonerfanTU says:

        I know that. But the fact that the Committee is thinking that way isn’t good for OU or the Big 12 in general. It will make it really tough to get past ND. You can tell from the things Long said what they think of the Big 12. Even if OU slips into the Playoff this year b/c teams ahead of us lose, or whatever, that pervasive thinking about the Big 12 and our style of play is harmful. That’s my point.

  • Zack says:

    I don’t care. Ou would kill every team above them right now. Stoops is on a mission. Let’s beat tcu who the committee thinks already lost 2 games because they had a close game with Kansas.

    • Recondo says:

      I think OU beats OSU, Iowa, Bama, & ND. The other 2 would be up in the air, IMO.

      • Zack says:

        You may be right but so long as stoops plays the disrespected card I think he can get this team motivated.

        • Recondo says:

          True. I wouldn’t bet against OU, that’s for sure. I think we match up very well with Bama & ND. We are simply better than OSU and Iowa. Clemson and OhSt present some serious personnel challenges. I will say they wouldn’t want to play us right now either.

  • Easton says:

    Eye-test: appearance of body-mass; uniform + recruiting class rankings; TV rating + fan base noise (all teams subject to the eye-test with the exception of Iowa). Iowa being subject to said eye-test would place them at #18 in the country. No explanation given for discrepancies.

  • Recondo says:

    Not too many surprises. With Iowa and/or OhSt guaranteed to lose and a potential top 10 Bedlam game we are sitting ok. I don’t even have an issue with TCU moving down even though it sucks for us. The biggest problems with the rankings are UNC getting no love, refusing to drop LSU out of the top 15, and Gators in front of Sparty. Those three are crimes at this point.

  • Recondo says:

    Let’s also keep this in perspective. Being a serious contender at this point of the season is a place very few thought this team would be at preseason. Give old man Herbie some credit as one of those few. I think all we need to call this a successful season is a bowl win (although I believe we will win the conference at this point).

    • Zack says:

      I think we still need to get these next 2 wins and then it can be a success. I said 10-2, I know we’ve already got 9 which is equal to or more than about 75% of our fans thought we would have overall. Clearly this team was good enough to go undefeated, it seems like that takes a magical season these days to accomplish. Having one loss almost makes a team better because they have to learn to be better prepared.

      I figured ou would be 7th so I’m not mad about where we stand in the rankings. Good chance it plays out to where ou wins out they’re in. To think the top 5 will only have one more combined loss is just insane. I don’t like that tcu is going to fall out of the top 25 more than likely with 2 more losses.

      • Recondo says:

        I called 10-2 preseason as well. The team is certainly better than I thought they’d be. I’m just saying we need to close out the season with a bowl win even if it’s the Alamo Bowl or, more likely, a New Year’s Six bowl.

        • Zack says:

          No doubt much better than expected. The Texas game woke us up and now stoops can point at the corrupt committee and have something to strive for.

  • Angryinch says:

    Coach Stoops always states that he doesn’t pay attention to the polls. I really hope he does and goes after all the style points he can get.

    • Bob Edwards says:

      I think he is doing more than that. Him running around dissing the SEC is him throwing down the gauntlet. He is basically implying to the listening world “The SEC is weak. The only reason we wouldn’t be in the playoffs is because they are afraid to play.” As a bunch of old school committee members you can discount an upstart like Baylor or TCU, but you can’t ignore an Oklahoma, especially if you look like you are afraid of them.

      • BigJoeBrown says:

        Coach Stoops as well…the guy is or will be the oldest coach in football next year. He has been around a long time and I think some of the old school guys respect that and overall he is respected by a lot of coaches and analyst. Longevity is rare in college football.

  • Rick says:

    SIAP but rather get it in here if you haven’t seen it. As most of you know Shep is up for the the Biletnikof Award. They have a fanvote section much like the site we went to this afternoon to support Baker for the walkon award. Shep is leading the poll but would probably appreciate your votes. Here is the link. http://biletnikoffaward.com/fan-vote

  • Sooner Ray says:

    If OU wins out it all comes down to who does the committee love more, OU or ND. I don’t trust committee’s so I’m hoping for total poll destruction.

    • BigJoeBrown says:

      I say leave ND out of it til’ they decide to join a conference. Only Power 5 conference members should have a spot at the table. No floaters…..

      • Sooner Ray says:

        I have always felt the way to determine a champion is with 6 or 8. The champion of each P5 and either one or three “at large” teams to finish out the field. If each conference champion is represented, the one or more extra would be the only teams arguing over placement.

        • Bob Edwards says:

          Eight, five P5 conference champions, the best conference champ of the rest, and two “at large.”

    • Recondo says:

      That’s why I want Iowa and UNC to win their conferences. Just to watch the fun.

    • SoonerGoneEast says:

      Actually, it comes down to the opinion of a room full of biased homers. Our league, our team, our style of play has no representation.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        You are absolutely right. At this point its clear that the committee has an agenda. This is no longer college football. Its now only politics.
        Its sad and pathetic.

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      It’s all about OU winning out and ND losing to Stamford. That is the simplest way in for OU. Other than that, there are a bunch of things that could happen.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    There are still tough games for teams ahead of us, namely Ohio State plays Michigan State and Michigan (at Michigan), Notre Dame plays at Stanford, Clemson plays at South Carolina. I don’t know what the hell they’re thinking on Iowa, they have played Nobody. We take care of business this weekend, and then bedlam determines if we’re in or out. IMO

  • SoonerGoneEast says:

    So Ole Miss goes from being unranked to number 22, in a friggin bye week. Apparently an off week in the best conference in the history of the world for ever and ever is tougher than a real live opponent in the BIG XII, because I’m sure this has nothing to do with keeping Bama, Florida and the whole SEC myth propped up, right? What a joke. TCU dropped three spots to #18 (but #11 in the AP and Coaches) in a victory and now has multiple two loss teams ahead of them. Think this doesn’t affect our SOS schedule? Think again. We beat TCU and they might just fall out of the rankings altogether.

  • Patrick Rice says:

    Why is everyone just conceding that Alabama is a top 4 team? They haven’t even won all their games. They should not be ranked in front of undefeated power 5 teams.

    • Walter Sobcek says:

      It’s hopeless to talk logically about overated Bama. The best we can do is get a Big 12 team in the tourney and beat them. Again.

  • rphokc says:

    well, gun battle in paris suburb…….police may have suspect(s) from last week surrounded…….good luck to the police

    • EasTex says:

      “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
      George Santayana

      Another lesson that the victory at Poitiers teaches us is that among the
      general Frankish population there were no values like compassion and
      chivalry towards any adversary. Hence they did not think of negotiating a
      peace with the defeated Arabs. They also never allowed any of the
      defeated Arabs to retreat and live to fight another day. They
      slaughtered all of them so that they could never again threaten France.
      The culture of the Franks was based on warfare, as was that of the
      Mongols under Hulagu, who also defeated the Muslims in 1258 at Baghdad.
      The Franks expected no quarter from the Muslims and gave none. They
      never pleaded for mercy from the ghoulish Muslim invaders, and whenever
      they had the chance, they gave no mercy to the defeated Muslims. The
      perception of an enemy as a legitimate object of destruction, was
      present in each and every Frankish soldier.

      http://historyofjihad.org/france.html

  • Boomer4life says:

    We need a conference championship or move to a conference that has one. I’m thinking the SEC. We can beat’em why not join them.

  • Sith Lawd says:

    Saw earlier that Mique Juarez is no longer visiting Ole Miss this Saturday. Is he still planning to go to OU on the 20th?

  • Walter Sobcek says:

    Ole Miss had a bye last Saturday, and moved up five spots. Everyime Long opens his mouth, his bias comes roaring out. OUs loss “doesn’t go away,” he says. But I guess Bama’s did.

    • SE Sooner says:

      And Ohio States loss last year to a bad VT . Under this years criteria , you would think TCU would have gotten in . They have an agenda , and the big 12 is not on it

  • DR LEO MARVIN says:

    Beat TCU