Image via The Tulsa World
For the first time, perhaps all season, Oklahoma put together a complete game against a power five conference opponent. It wasn’t without mistakes but it sure looked fantastic at times. Here are some thoughts I had:
– Last year against Baylor Oklahoma played a cover 1 man defense almost the entire game. This season Oklahoma has played quite a bit more zone. But this past weekend Mike Stoops brought back more man coverage. And I can’t help but wonder if perhaps it was an attempt to get the players ready to match up man-to-man against an explosive Baylor offense next week. I hope so because a lot of those zone calls are going to get eatin up by Baylor.
– The interesting thing was, we also saw more press looks on the edges. This is something OU will do sometimes when they are in a split safety look and they’re running, say, cover 2 man-under. Or when they stagger their coverage. But against Iowa State we actually some press coverage in a single high safety look on both edges! It was really fun to watch Julian play that way. He had a ball caught on him out of press coverage and a penalty was called on the same play but he didn’t actually get beat, he just didn’t get his head turned around. But other times, he was so physical in his press technique that the wide receivers just couldn’t even get into his route. He did what a good corner does, he x’d out his receiver. He also did a nice job in his press mirror technique. I like to watch a corner when the ball doesn’t get thrown in his direction. People are quick to jump on a corner when a ball gets caught on him but you’ve got to also notice how many times, good corner play prevents a quarterback from even going the corner’s way.
– Sanchez looked good. He got a little aggressive on a play that cost him. Last week when Mike was asked about Sanchez, he actually said that Sanchez sometimes takes unnecessary risks but I think part of that happens when you play so much off-coverage. You either get yourself in a situation where you appear to be breaking late and aren’t able to close the gap (which is something you’ll see on occasion with Julian) or you break early and prevent the hitch or the slant but you get beat later on the double move. It’s tough to find that line.
– When the young corners came in at the beginning of the game, there was definitely a drop off. That is to be expected since they haven’t had the reps but I was still a little surprised at how hesitant they looked compared to the two starters.
– The defensive line played with great effort. A couple weeks ago in the second half of the KSU game, the defensive line really didn’t perform very well. Even big Jordan Phillips was having trouble one-on-one with KSU’s center at times. For OU’s defensive line it’s really about effort. When they’re giving you everything, they do a nice job of controlling the line of scrimmage. Obviously, it’s a huge help for them to know that they’ve got a lot of depth behind them and with Walker and Dimon back, they do. So I’m hopeful we will see a defensive front that it is able to really handle the Baylor run game.
– Coach Mike Stoops was a lot more aggressive in his calls overall. I would still like to see him play even more aggressively. There were a couple third downs where he called some zone-blitzes and there were some mistakes in the way the defense played them that allowed for 3rd and long completions. 3rd down for the Sooners should always be a pressure/man down because of how well they play out of those calls in general.
– The underneath coverage and the zone coverages, in general, were much better as well. The back 7 did a much better job of matching patterns through zones and then handing off their receivers. This was especially noticeable with the linebackers.
– The linebackers also did a better job of not allowing offensive linemen to wall them off at the second level. This seem to be happening because overall, they were playing faster and reacting to what Iowa State did much better. I suspect part of that was also the talent level of the offensive line but the speed at which Evans and Dom were reacting to plays was still noticeable. My guess is, we’re going to see them playing really fast and looking really prepared for the Baylor run game.
– Parker looked pretty good in coverage again. He had a play against Bibbs where he got caught flat footed and wasn’t able to turn and stay with Bibbs and was forced to hold him but other than that he continues to give OU a good additional cover guy. You’ll likely see a lot of him and Q Hayes playing man coverage this weekend so it’ll be interesting to see how young Parker matches up with Baylor’s speedy receivers.
– Overall, the defense just seemed more dialed in than they have in the past few weeks. They were reacting to things quicker. But I do believe this has something to do with the more aggressive play calling early on. Players get used to playing downhill early and pushing the issue and I think it sets that mental tone that results in a more focused defensive game throughout.
– I’ll leave the offensive notes for JY’s Trench Warfare breakdown, but the thing that really stood out to me, and I’m sure to y’all was the way Oklahoma used Trevor Knight in the run game. That outside run to either side out of the diamond formation with a lead blocker was deadly and thinking as a defensive minded person it would be very difficult to stop. It forces you to play the offense even…because they can run it to either side but it also forces you to play them honest up the middle because OU has an inside power play out of that same formation. You also can’t fly down-hill against it because OU could show run action and pass out of that formation since all the guys in the backfield can actually catch. And Trevor is the key to that play because, as a runner, he gives you the extra blocker. Really tough thing to stop, especially when your lead blocker is getting a good chip on the linebacker (as was the case for OU).
– Related to the note above, this look is also difficult to deal with because OU TE trades and get numbers against the run on one side. From there they force the defensive front and potentially the LBs to react to the trade in order to not be outnumbered at the point of attack. The problem is, when Trevor’s running, they’re then out numbered or even to the weak-side because of the adjustment. That doesn’t even include the fact that OU get’s a one-one-one look with the receivers on the outside. Again, it’s really a difficult play to stop, especially when the other team doesn’t have an talent advantages up front.
– One of the best things was just seeing Honeycutt back to form and striking the ball well! That was a bit of a highlight for me because I really didn’t know if those misses against KSU would have a more lasting effect.
Overall, it was great to see the Sooners play well!
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Critical thing this coming weekend is going to be the back end being able to play without regard to the run game. If the OU front 7 can stop the run without secondary help then OU can make things very difficult on Baylor.
Bingo. We have to stop their running game. I don’t think people realize how much they run the ball. Through 8 games Baylor has 396 rushes for 2,000 which is 49.5 rush attempts per game. 312 pass attempts completing 175 for 2,800 yards which is 39 pass attempts per game. This is just an average but it speaks to their pursuit of running the ball. We stop/minimize the run and Petty will feel the rush.
Interesting, Petty has 52 rushing attempts but 16 of those are TD’s. That is average of 2 per game so they aren’t worried about him getting hurt on the goal line.
We need our fans to go crazy so it’s unfortunate it’s an 11am KO IMO.
It doesn’t change much in Big 12 play either. I looked at their 5 Big 12 games and they have averaged rushing 51x a game and passing 40x a game.
WE can still be loud at 11:00 AM, can’t we Boom? We had better be! We need to jump around!
Agreed. I won’t be there but seems like the noise goes up the longer the tailgate.
Did Walker play on the D Line against ISU?
Yeah
Boom, I agree with you. I think that is in relationship to to how much Baylor has you guessing. If we are able to dictate down and distance, we will see them pass quite a bit. Besides, Baylor is a team that wants to establish the pass in order to run. They are vain like that because they really prefer to score on you quickly and often.
K, Tommy Lasorda once said that when he determining if he should pitch to or walk a batter that he is more concerned with their last 10 at bats. In other words, he’s more concerned about how they are trending. Can you provide Baylor’s pass to run ratio at the beginning of the season until recently, in segments of first three weeks, second three weeks, last three weeks?
I agree with you on trending, but I’d ignore Baylor’s first 3 games completely. Complete nobodies. I don’t think you can learn much about a team playing nobodies. I want to see someone play under stress. There’s where you get their strengths/weaknesses. I’d only care to examine what they did against Big 12 opponents.
Good point.
but still what you say is relevant. the “trending” is their last 5 games against Big 12 teams. That’s the trending anyway b/c the first 3 were farther away.
I thought we did a fantastic job last year stopping the run initially, then we had so much trouble when they started running the zone read with Petty.
I am still worried about that, I guess. As we saw with TCU and KSU, the zone read and the zone read with the pop pass has given us trouble, hope we address that this week. Considering their injuries upfront we should dominate on D upfront, if not, it will be extremely disappointing.
Would love to see our CBs play press and x’d out their WR’s at the line. It’s not like they are 6’3 220 guys. WV rushed hard up the middle and caused troubles for Petty. Curious if we will blitz the LB’s or have an eagle blitz pckage. Liked your point on Parker playing more man this week. I would love to see him accept the challenge.
I didn’t get to watch the game this weekend and cant find highlights anywhere. Anyone have any suggestions?
Here is the full game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Ak49Nk0Gg
you sir are a gentleman and a scholar
Here are the highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFrOdzgQZog&list=PLYhvHN1ZXOtTEThl2xzS6VWZiPNKfgiKH
excellent write up, Super K.
Thanks!
Thanks again for you comments. I liked the variety of the play calling. Sweeps, bubbles, run-option, long/short passes. Lots of mix up. When TK runs, it opens everything else up, IMO. I liked the runs up the middle with Thomas–I wish they’d do that too with TK. One concern I have for D is lack of TOs. Is this a concern of yours as well? Last 3 games we have forced 2 TOs I believe. Baylor doesn’t turn the ball over too much (isu 1, ut 0, tcu 3, wv 0, ku 0–in Big 12 play).
I think if we can run the ball on Baylor and control the clock we can beat them. I think it is up to our offense to win this one. Our D will play well, but they don’t have a seasoned secondary that can shut down Baylor. I hope they prove me wrong though. Would love to see it.
And, don’t turn the ball over and actually get some TOs. Not liking our D n/getting TOs but O seeming to turn it over.
Yes, avoid the turnovers and save TO’s for clock management instead of formation management!
Awesome thoughts! Makes me hope that we have a decent chance of affecting the pace of Baylor’s offense…if I were to make that prediction 2 or 3 weeks ago, I would’ve said that Baylor was going to dismantle our defense. I get the sense that if we are able to run effectively on offense that will help prevent Baylor from having too many offensive opportunities (and hopefully we’ll be effective enough there this year instead of the play-calling debacle of last year). In terms of defensive planning, given OU’s personnel and general scheme matched up against Baylor’s offense, how does OU shut them down? Can they?
I was very glad to see Munnicut rebound from a bad game. Also very glad to see Sooner Dave get the touchdown. On D, the ISU offense was never a real threat. Maybe in a couple more years under Mangino they will be
I don’t know if they ran it and I missed it, but when they ran the Diamond with motion the counter to the weak side looked to be very open.
One thing I noticed going back over BU’s Big 12 games is that their 2 games on the road their O struggled. Against UT 28 pts (one coming from a blked UT FG attempt returned 62 yds for TD, so only 3 O TDs against ut; 389 yds). Against WV 27 pts with one coming on a 7 yd “drive” (318 total yds). Maybe that will help, too, OU being at home although (depressingly) we lost our last home game.
A positive comment on Iowa State – did y’all know the electronic computer was invented at ISU?
http://jva.cs.iastate.edu/
Kudos to the folks of the destructive wind storm. Computers began in our conference. Like those gizmos we’re all typing on to comment on TFB. Take that west coast and sec.
Interestingly, the integrated circuit, the core of ‘solid state’ technology was pioneered at Grinnell in Iowa including work done by one grad student named Robert Noyce who went on be a founder of Fairchild Semiconductor (the root company of virtually all of Silicon Valley. To the extent that the companies there are sometimes called ‘The Fairchildren’.) Noyce also founded a little company you may have heard of…Intelligent Devices, later shortened to ‘Intel’.
Tom Wolfe wrote an excellent essay attempting to explain why the ethos of middle America was particularly well suited to radical pioneering work…a theme he revisited in ‘The Right Stuff’.
It’s possible to say with very little exaggeration that the computer age began in Iowa. (Though Jack Kilbey at Texas Instruments has a very legit claim, as well.)
thanks for the info – these history channel type stories of real people doing real things are great.
Another great read on the rise of Silly Valley is ‘Inside Intel’ which explains, among other things how the ‘X86’ chip design was a cludge to meet a deadline when the intended central processor design, the ‘X88’ developed problems and Intel risked missing delivery deadlines. The hang ups, freezes etc that plague us to this day? Arguably due to designers not having an extra weekend or so back in the 1970’s. (the pc got so popular, so fast that it was impossible to go back and redo things. Motorola had a vastly superior chip, once upon a time, the Power PC, but by then Intel’s marketing machine was able to overwhelm it.)
Thanks – I found the Tom Wolfe 1983 essay on Grinnell, IA. That vivid story telling took me back to yesteryear!
I’ll look up “Inside Intel”. I remember in the late 1980s some friends who were deep into PCs said it was a shame the Motorola chip did not prevail.
And I thought Al Gore invented the computer right before he invented the internet, silly me.
I think this game has the making of a shoot out and if ou comes to play this should look like the bedlam game from 2008. With ou winning by 3 scores and putting a pretty 60 spot on Baylor.
I hope so zack after last year i hope we win by 50
Cannot underestimate the value of having Dimon and Walker back. Those young guys have talent and are hungry. Dimon is what is often referred to as a ‘high motor’ guy in that he gives max effort every play. They will push the guys ahead of them and give quality relief just in time and keep fresh legs for getting after Petty. That helps the back end immensely. With Ford back and Sooner Dave showing so well and with TK being ‘unleashed’ and looking confident, maybe that complete game will come this weekend.
I’m hopeful that we don’t get ‘confused’ by refereeing ‘variations’, like the refs not calling linemen downfield….or picks…or being either too lenient or too sensitive to pass interference. We seem to take longer than some teams to adapt, even when it’s being called evenly. Maybe we’re young, maybe it’s just the way Mike et al coach, but we seem a bit slow to pick up on such things.
Lots of difference between the talent level and execution skills of ISU & KST/TCU. OU struggles against teams of equitable talent and the Baylor game should be no different. Would expect Bryce Petty to have an easy day picking on the OU secondary / linebackers as he as has most teams. If OU is to be competitive and have any chance of winning, the offense must stay on the field while keeping baylors offense off the field. I don’t think the Sooner defense is good enough to win a low scoring game. Consequently, I like Baylor to win easily 48-27.
Hell you bad mouth the sooner’s every week on this site you never have anything good to say about the sooner’s i have alway’s attacked the bad coaching on this team not the player’s i can agree with you about big game bob but come on your attack’s on this team please you must be a closet door horn’s fan if you are going to attack the player go find another site if you want to say the coach is bad okay but lay off off the player’s or get lost loser
Stephen, c’mon bro, ease up a little. We held Petty in check last year but offense was going through a transition with Bell back as starter. We didn’t score inside red zone early and often which lead to the demise. We are in a different place as a team. If you are a true sooner fan, chill on the bashing. DB’s & LB’s get beat all of the time, even in the pros. It happens so we have to minimize this and shut down the run and we will be good.
When the sooners roll, will you come back on the site and still bad mouth them for not scoring more points or allowing less?
couple questions:
1. is it dark where you are?
2. do you like to wear other people’s skin?
3. do you have a black out windowed van?
4. do you entice small children with candy?
5. are you registered with the state?
With a little Bill Shakespeare thrown in for good measure.
Well, there is a contradiction in what you’ve written: I don’t see how it’s possible to have a low scoring game if your defense isn’t good enough. You will need to work on your draft before submitting again. Clean this up and turn it back in when you’re done.
I like OU to win easily 48-27, but I’m an OU fan and my beer is lite so what would else would you expect from me.
I say sooner ray we win by 10 point unless the coaching is as bad as the tcu game but if we play like we did againt lowa state we will.win by 10 but i alway’s worry about what coaching will show up game by game
i respect your opinion. you’ve earned it from me. so i respect the fact you get on the guy making the money and not on the kids….and thank you for what you said to ole creepy steve down below
Hang with me dudley, I tend to throw a little extra sunshine when others push in dark clouds. We’ll get this win.
hope so we need this game going forword not just for this year but for next year to
Dudley 04…………..If OU wins, i’ll give the players their props. That’s IF they win a game against a team of Baylor’s talent….Seeing is believing………….
Thy tongue outvenoms all the worms of Nile.
/Cymbeline
You say of baylor talent the sooner’s have more player’s that will play on sunday than baylor has the problem has never been about talent it’s been the bad coaching on this team but we have more talent than baylor please
did you study writing under james hale?
I agree. OU has more talent/depth at most positions.
fun with numbers:
since ’95 SEC(or joined ala Mo and a&m)(in true non conference road games) 98-67
bama 4-3 fla 4-7
ark 4-4 uga 11-4
aub 3-4 uk 8-7
lsu 5-3 mo 3-0
a&m 3-0 so car 8-7
om 12-5 ut 7-6
msu 14-7 van 12-10
What was interesting to me in the BU win over TCU was they were down by 21 and were still running the ball. Some say TCU went conservative, I disagree, I thought TCU’s lack of depth finally reared its head and they were just gassed.
I think OU’s depth now, with healed up players, will be a big factor in this game.
The only way you can outscore BU is by slowing them down, enter WVU and their blueprint of playing man coverage and blitzing up the middle, the shortest route to the QB.
I fully expect an aggressive defensive approach and a balanced offense. Should the Sooners have the lead by the 4th qtr, it will be All-Day time.
I think you’re correct. We hung well for a while last year then got gassed, feel better about depth this year.
Now if the refs will call BU for their ‘pick plays’ that will give OU a two TD advantage from the gitgo.
I haven’t watched them enough this year to know what they’re doing but I’m sure Bob has. Being at home, he will likely mention that to the refs pre-game.
That’s how they scored two quick ones on OU last year before the refs finally listened to Bob jumping up and down and called BU on it. When they did call it Briles started jumping up and down.
I remember last year well, I was jumping up and down myself. Have you seen them getting away with it this year?
No, but haven’t paid much attention to them. The only game they played that really got my interest was the WVU game. Bryce was harried and hurried, they had him completely off of his game and he was rattled.
Watched the 4th qtr of the TCU game and by that time the frogs had no gas left in the tank.
BTW, I was watching the ISU game again and there were some specific things I wanted to look at in a forward/reverse/forward kind of way. When the 2nd team defense was in on the failed 4th and 3 by ISU deep in OU territory, one of our ILB blitzed with a clear lane to the QB. I couldn’t believe how fast he got there and put a lick on the QB. I thought it had to be Franklin, knowing he has 4.4 speed, but it was Gastellum and I mean he covered that distance in a flash.
We do have a decent two deep on the front end, now if the young secondary can catch up.
I was wondering who that was. I could never see his number to know.
Travis, I apologize. I watched it again and again off my dvr and it was indeed Aaron Franklin and not Gastellum. I was fooled by the fact that ISU used a different alignment on the 4th and 3 and the two ILBs switched sides. Had it been Gastellum I would have been amazed by the speed, but since it was Franklin I am not.
No worries, it’s just good to see that kinds of speed from a LB
No worries, it’s just good to see that kinds of speed from a LB
fun with numbers 2:
opponents
hou 1-1 az 1-0 army 0-1 ecu 1-0 wv 1-2
uab 2-0 duke 4-0 navy 0-1 unc 1-0 OU 0-2
mtsu 1-0 fres 1-0 ark st 1-0 uva 1-1
troy 1-0 tulane 5-1 a&m 0-1 oreg 0-2
so al 1-0 wy 0-1 mo 0-1 tt 1-1
ind 5-2 smu 4-1 nd 1-3 n tex 1-0
cincy 0-1 vt 0-1 mia 1-2 n iowa 1-0
louis 4-4 gt 8-4 lt 1-1 tcu 0-2
toledo 1-0 az st 2-0 mia(oh) 1-0 mich 0-1
colo 0-1 cal 0-1 okst 0-2 rice 1-0
wf 4-2 usc 0-2 fsu 4-5 nw 0-1
bay 1-0 ucla 1-2 k st 1-0 umass 1-0
clem 7-6 rut 0-1 syr 1-1 haw 1-1
byu 1-0 uconn 0-1 nc st 2-1 penn st 1-0
mem 14-2 wash 1-0 ucf 2-0 tex 2-1
I do better with formulas and my chalk just broke. 🙂
if i were literate on the ole computer it probly woulda turned out prettier
I tried to follow it but the naughts kept getting carried away. :}
you have to carry the naughts
But…the naughts carried me.
i would say try again but i wouldn’t wish that even on ole creepy steve
What would be fun would be to look at the combined winning records against D-1 competition of the OOC teams defeated by all the D-1 teams, especially in the sec.
**Edit** But don’t do it.
well that’s what that gibberish was. it was sec teams road ooc records and then who they have played all rolled into one beautiful pile of crap…such as the sec at the liberty bowl in memphis playing memphis st. is 14-2. i mean, all these people defending the sec just need to look at the numbers and they will see that when the sec plays somewhere else(not a “neutral” site or a bowl game against a northwestern type in jacksonville) they are just like everyone else
Cupcake U. is still Cupcake U., regardless of where they play. Anyway, none of the alleged “experts” would dare question that aspect of the sec, they will only discuss how many Nattys the sec has won.
Super K, Moneycutt needs 42 points to become the NCAA All-Time Scoring leader for kickers. That means he needs 8.4 points per game (including the bowl game) in the final five games. It is certainly possible, he had 11 points on Saturday.
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A happy wife and happy dog makes a happy man.
This game turned out just like I thought it would! I was sitting in my office last week and a coworker was warning me about how tough it was to go to Ames and get a win cause crazy stuff happens and I told him I GUARANTEE YOU CRAZY STUFF WILL HAPPEN! OU will win by 50 cause they got nothing to loose! OU finally unleashed the beast on both sides of the ball for the most part. We saw TK9 look like his old Sugar Bowl self (with to many picks thrown in), the rushing game was awesome, other WRs got involved, and the defense was attacking all day! The crazy thing that happened was that the OU coaches finally did these things! They have been there for us all season. Then they acted like it was just business as usual. Like loosing our 2nd game and watching almost every glimer of hope(sorry K but got to agree with Jordan on this one) we had to make the playoff disappear forever had nothing to do with them pulling all the stops and being aggressive on both sides of the ball! If this coaching staff does anything that is close to agrivating/frustrating for me, it is playing conservative to much of the time and, the scarest thing about is that either they think we are to stupid to notice or even worse they don’t realize it themselves. If we cut it loose the rest of this season the only team that can maybe stay with us is Baylor because they can score the ball but even so I think an agressive OU defense gets enough stops to handle the Bears at home and in the end we are all left to wonder how we ended the year 5 points from a perfect season and another National championship!
Finally was able to sit down and watch the game since I was traveling Saturday during the game. Just a couple of thoughts. 1) It was Iowa St so I’m tempering my enthusiasm a bit. 2) Defense looked good. Hopefully they’ve regained some confidence for the Baylor game. 3) I think Shep getting hurt really helped us in this game. If he’s out for the Baylor game, then it’s definitely a huge loss. Since he was out, Knight spread the ball around quite a bit. This did several things: 1) gave him more confidence in his throwing, 2) gave the receivers more confidence, 3) gave us some sustained drives. There’s no denying that Shep is a big play receiver and no one would argue with getting long TD catches but our ability to put together a long sustaining/move the chains drive is really important against the higher powered offenses. In the 3rd quarter, we had 30 first downs!!! That’s what it will take to beat Baylor, not a bunch of hail Mary’s to Shep, putting our defense back on the field every 3 minutes. Great to see us play a complete game. Now if we can just get someone to return a punt! Wait, scratch that. I don’t want to get greedy.
Incredible write up K. Thank you. While many (understandably) temper enthusiasm due to being ISU, they’re not as bad of a team as being portrayed either. How did they score so much on Texas and not OU – if nothing else. Last week, the negatives touted that Mangino could rock our world, then all of a sudden ISU sucks when they didn’t. TK’s day should be even more appreciated when factoring in conditions – it was pretty darn windy. You’re right though, just seeing the team executing regardless of opponent is good – timing etc. I love this site, so much better than others. Really appreciate how you address issues, yet don’t constantly drill them into ground and appreciate the things that are going right too. Perspective. I used to share time with another site, but I think it will be Braniacs 99% from here out. Even the posters are much more informed and down to earth. We can either spend the next 6-weeks complaining about ‘what could have been’ or enjoy our football season. Thank you for helping it be more enjoyable with balanced perspectives.
The defensive backfield just isnt as good as I thought they would be. Not as athletic and not as smart. That coupled with (my opinion) poor coaching gets us beaten. Bybn poor coaching I mean poor gameplanning. Sanchez in good for one touchdown and for one long completion which leads to a touchdown. Hays will give up one touchdown. That’s spotting the opponent three tds. Playing off 10-12 yards will get you beat as will rushing only three.