OFFICIAL: Lincoln Riley Expected To Be Named New OU Offensive Coordinator (UPDATED)
Posted on: January 12, 2015
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As was first reported by Dean Blevins on Sunday night, several national writers are also now confirming that East Carolina’s Lincoln Riley is expected to be named the new offensive coordinator at the University of Oklahoma.
#ECU OC Lincoln Riley will become the new #OU offensive coordinator, source tells @foxSports. Great hire for #Sooners.
— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) January 12, 2015
Still nothing official from OU or Bob Stoops, but when there is this much smoke there tends to be some kind of fire. We’ll continue to update you as information becomes available.
– UPDATE (12:47 pm): Our guy Brandon (@TheDrakeTFB) has spoken to his source close to Sonnie Cumbie and has been told that if the Lincoln Riley news is true, then Cumbie is not interested in a move for a co-OC position as a non-playcaller.
– UPDATE (5:52 pm): It’s official
It's official. Welcome @LincolnRiley to the Sooner Family. #thereisonlyone http://t.co/0HMjdSMVDx pic.twitter.com/sqg2IOAXiU
— Oklahoma Football (@OU_Football) January 12, 2015
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I’m excited to see what this guy can do on the big stage.
yay!
I kept seeing on here or maybe another board that the Air Raid hasn’t won a NC. If I am not mistaken, didn’t we win the NC with an Air Raid or was that considered something else?
Yes, 15 years ago. Very different game now.
So you’re not a fan of the hire?
I am. Riley’s among the best OC’s. Just preferred Frost and his system. If true and Riley is the man, then I support Bob’s choice. He knows better than any of us which direction he wants to go.
I agree and that’s kinda my point. We shall see!
With the RB OU has available, this “Air Raid” should be explosive. This is an offense that should make Ross even more dangerous with his speed.
Indeed, Mr. Cummings.
I thought the same thing. The Air Raid didn’t win NC’s at Tech because their defense was terrible, not because of the offense.
As I recall, Mangino tuned it up. But you’re right, the bones of the system was Air Raid.
Is he running the air raid or something more progressive like TCU & Baylor? It seems to me that TCU had a real shot at an NC this year. They will be finishing second, I believe.
Yes, but the fear of me and other is that the AIR RAID leaves the defense on the field way too much and the fact that there is trouble holding leads because late in games running clock is more difficult. We shall see.
OUInsider is reporting that Bob has not made a decision or extended an offer as yet. They’re reporting that he still wants to interview Frost. I hope this is true. I much prefer the Oregon style offense to the Air Raid. We have the RBs to make it work.
OUI is run by James Hale. That says enough, if you do not already know his background.
Yeah his background is “If I didn’t say it, IT CAN’T BE TRUE!”
Whoops! Sounds like I f’d up mentioning OUInsider. My bad. Lesson learned.
I don’t know what to be most shocked about: that we made a good hire, that our offense seems to have a direction now, or that DEAN BLEVINS WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!!
I and much more shocked that Deano was right. Much much more.
I like the hire. He’s proven to put up points. He’s also proven to adapt to personal which means the run game will still be present with out. Also has proven to develop talent. Hes young, creative and smart.
Can he Recruit?
That is probably hard to determine! ECU is in prime SEC and ACC territory but it does appear he has been able to develop a lot of talent from lower ranked prospects. It will be interesting to see what he can do with a brand name like OU and then continue to develop the better players he is able to get!
I would expect Riley’s scheme will be altered to accommodate our run game. A balanced attack includes a passing game that disappeared over the last two seasons.
meh
As much as I was holding out for another guy, I like the hire. Not a big of slash hire as some would like, but I would rather get the right guy than the big name. Hope he can help this offense find an identity and some consistency.
If he IS the play caller next season, anything that results in a run/pass ratio much different than 55/45 will be a failure. The only proven difference makers on this offense are the running backs and Shep. Last year at ECU they passed 60% of the time. Hopefully he can adapt to throwing a lot less.
Can’t call out failure pre-emptively Tom. Just not true.
Ok his play calling lady year was 58/42 4k passer, 1k receiver, 1k rusher, I’m good with that!
He also had a quarterback that completed 63% of his passes.
This is not a slam dunk — it’s a gamble. He’ll have to come in here and do one of two things.
1.) Transform one of Trevor Knight or Cody Thomas into consistent passers.
2.) Tap Baker Mayfield or Justice Hansen and get them ready for a brutal Big XII slate.
Either one is a challenge. The guy has his work cut out for him. This team isn’t remotely suited to what he ran at ECU, unless he works some magic with our QB’s.
Baker Mayfield seems like the odds-on-favorite to start since he is the only one on-campus that was recruited to run anything close to what Riley did at ECU. That said, he’ll be coming off a two year break.
The same is true for anyone coming into the OC job.
That is true, to an extent. The difference, however, between someone like Lincoln Riley and someone like Scott Frost is, Frost has been successful with an offense that favors run over pass.
The only proven aspect of the Sooner offense is the run game, and Lincoln Riley may need to lean on it much more frequently than he ever has before. That is what leaves me cautious.
I won’t come out and say that he can’t possibly do this (adapt to his personnel). There just haven’t been examples of this in his career to this point.
That’s what makes this a gamble more than a homerun.
Personally, I hope he is as innovative and versatile as his reputation suggests. Whoever is in charge of OU’s offense next season won’t have a ton of proven, experienced passers to lean on — and they won’t get a few years to bring in someone that can run a pass heavy offense.
60/40 could also mean 10% of those pass plays going to the RB’s. Essentially extended hand offs.
All right then.. Lincoln is apparently the guy for sure now, so #Let’sGetIt #Boomer
I am from North Carolina and have the opportunity to watch ECU play on a regular basis. ECU had a pretty successful running game this season, especially early on when they were just destroying everybody. I don’t know if he was the QB coach or not, but he has really developed the past two QB’s there really well.
Nice, thanks LL.
I watched them own Virginia Tech right after VT had destroyed tOSU last year and being very impressed.
Now let’s bring in one of the 3 – cumbie, Helton, or candle.
Seconded.
I like it.
I’m in.
Not sure how I feel about this. Quick, someone tell me how to feel.
That feeling you have when you’re falling backwards out of a chair, but catch yourself.
Relieved? Or the shaky post adrenal dump where your muscles are quivering and you feel sick?
Indecisive! At least that’s how I’ll feel until I see his product on the field.
THEN INDECISIVE IT IS!!
I feel strongly both ways.
It’s the internet…when in doubt, anger is always appropriate…:-)
music!
Yeah, sorry, couldn’t help myself… I’m ok, now…:-)
Wait till the first incompletion or first run the goes for under eight yards and start telling “Fire Lincoln Riley.” You will fit right in on the Internet.
I’m saying I don’t know much about Riley and how his offense would look at OU. I’m not like the other posters you’re alluding to
Didn’t say you were. You asked how you should feel, I was suggesting the route a lot of people seem to be going down.
I appreciate TFB because it’s not like that 99% of the time. Which is refreshing.
And I see lots of people praising Riley, which considering Bob’s last couple hires (Monty, Bedenbaugh) is encouraging
No I agree. I was simply mocking the tendency of internet “fans” to always be blaming the OC for every problem the team has. I remember fire Kevin Wilson comments when we were setting offensive records.
Wait haha there are people with Fire LR before he is hired.
#6 Offense in the nation sounds alot better than 26th…now they can concentrate on getting some pieces in place
You’re looking at total offense. Now look at scoring offense. OU was two spots higher than ECU.
Total Offense: tied with TCU.
My point being, you’re going to rack up more yards by virtue of the type of offense he runs. The real question is can you score when you get in red zone. That’s where spread becomes tricky.
Good point. And tricky is the type of play calling that gets it in the end zone against a good rushing defense. In conjunction with a an Oline wins the trench.
Now look at the talent level he had to work with.
If the guy can capitalize on the talent on the roster, he’ll be a homerun hire, if not Bob Stoops will be looking for new employment in a year or 2
I don’t know how good ECU’s competition is, that is the main reason I’d rather go with Frost. however, if Riley is the hire I’m assuming we get him for much less than a Frost would cost, then add someone to develop the QBs or WRs, whichever Riley doesn’t do and we still have a ton of money left over for when Kish and MS leave/get fired and we can go get a couple of big time DCs here and revamp our D as well. Any thoughts on this, or are Kish and MS still going to be around after NSD? I haven’t heard any rumors there in a while.
My brother is fond of saying two bad teams playing is like two good teams playing. They’re both equal.
he did what he did at ecu with what he had. talent level goes up, production goes up? probly
That would be my expectation, as long as he adapts to the increased talent he faces on defenses.
I would be damn surprised if they’re still around after signing day. They aren’t even out recruiting. Sounds like Monty is recruiting for almost the entire defensive staff — with a little BJW and Bob Stoops included.
that’s been my take on this too. if they’re secure in their jobs why aren’t they putting in the effort on the recruiting trail? guess we’ll see what Bob has in store for us soon enough.
If this is indeed true, given Bob’s recent hires of Montgomery and Bedenbaugh, I’m erring on the side of optimism for this hire.
I think Boulware was a good hire too. Special teams really improved after he came. I think most of the perceived problems with ST is Stoops not letting Shepherd actually return punts and making a stupid call against OSU.
Yes.
Wait, unless I missed something, Stoops didn’t stop Sterling from returning punts. Are you talking about after the injury? In my opinion Shepard fair caught nearly everything after his momma got it in his head it was dangerous. Which, it basically is. But so is football period. Someone else needs to take that job next year. But I agree with you over all. ST did improve.
I have said all along they need to throw miciah quick back there! kids got a gift and you need to use it… what frustrated me week in and week out is punt return was like a break to the players they didnt set anything up..
Well I am assuming that he was doing what he was told. If he wasn’t why keep him back there? Get someone who will return the ball. If we don’t have a spare wide receiver or running back that can field punts then our recruiting has been worse than I think.
Mixon or Brooks? What about KJ Young. No fumblers of course. Last year no true read option and no punt returns.
Well Mixon wasn’t available, but Brooks or KJ Young would have worked. Quick returned some early in the year. I guess the question is why put a starter out there for some more plays if all he is going to do if fair catch.
I’m hoping his next hire is Wyatt. Without receivers, the Air Raid scares no one. If anyone can get the best out of the kids we have, Wyatt can. Plus he kicks ass as a recruiter.
d wyatt supposedly ‘burned some bridges’ when he was in Norman. wouldn’t expect to see him back…besides, OU needs to go younger and more active recruiters….the staff needs more new blood and fresher ideas–not recycling old staffers…………
That would be correct
His stats are perfect. 4,000 yard passer, 1,000 rusher, 1,000 yard receiver. Pair him with Toledo’s Candle and we have a perfect combo in my opinion.
A 1,000 yard rusher is perfect? Given that Perine just ran for over 1500 and we’re going to have to split carries between 4 guys at least, I would prefer more rushing and less passing.
His hire is less than ideal.
When paired with Candle from Toledo it’s literally a perfect combo IMO. Zone read game with mobile QB’s mixed with the Air Raid system. Watch Oregon tonight and tell me that’s not exactly what they’re running. Watch tOSU tonight and tell me that’s not exactly what they’re running.
Candle aside (because he hasn’t been hired), the LR hire is what has me concerned.
No doubt, but that’s what they’re doing. You don’t think Stoops knows exactly what we have? C’mon man. If it’s not Candle, it’s _________ who runs the zone read run game.
Yes. Oregon and tOSU run similar offenses.
There are probably many offenses that run Airraid components, y-sail, shallow cross, all curls. I don’t think that’s the interesting part though. Those are just pass plays.
Watching the evolution of Oregon’s scheme over the last 5 years makes me excited if we can pair Candle with Riley. This will be the system that Bob hoped for the last 2 seasons. I’m excited. It all hinges on who they pair Riley with though.
In interviews he says his philosophy is to put the ball in his best players hands as often as possible and in ways that stress the defense the most. Maybe he didn’t have RB of the caliber that OU does. He seems open to moving the football anyway he can and if OUs best players are RB I think he will run the ball quite a bit!
His run pass ratio doesn’t support an ability to be run heavy.
Well OU oline and RB has more talent than ECU does.
Which has what to do with his play calling preferences?
His talent level said he should do it even less. sheesh.
Bingo
This. Sometimes, people forget that some stats are anomalies, not the norm. Samaje is a special, special back. We also forget that some of those numbers were a result of abysmal WR play.
On another note, the selection of players he inherits will be somewhat of a luxury
Geez. Can you be anymore negative? Relax bro.
So, let me get this straight, anything but support for the hire is not allowed? Got it. Thanks chief.
Obviously entitled to your opinion. Just curious as to why you have already denounced the hire before ever calling one play here. I believe he is extremely intelligent and will know who his best players are and get the ball in their hands as much as possible. He will get the ball to Perine ofyen. We will run alot. I’m excited about it. Maybe you should give it a chance before writing it off. Boomer!
I’ve already given several reason as to why I’m not a fan of the hire. They’re the same concerns that many other people have. It’s an air raid offense that doesn’t utilize the run game to the capacity that it should be used at OU. Go watch some film of them and tell me that’s the type of offense to use Perine in.
I’m not stringing the guy up or anything, and last time I checked my phone, Stoops wasn’t calling me for my advice. I’m still gonna go to games and watch the Sooners play. I just don’t care for the hire. Maybe I’m wrong.
Fair criticism. But it is quite less of an “air-raid” offense then his mentor Leach runs. Perhaps this is a subjective view. He threw 200 more passes than he ran the ball. The lack of defense in some games may have dictated more passes. For comparison Oregon ran the ball 611 times and passes 436 times. EC basically the opposite. If our defense cannot stop a Baylor, we’ll need to outscore them through the air. Personally, it’s best to be multiple, having the ability to win a game running and/or passing.
I would expect whomever becomes the OC to run the ball more than they throw the ball given the talent at QB that OU has on campus. Given his profile it is reasonable to suspect that Riley would throw the ball more than run provided he has a QB that can execute his desired game plan. I see that being more than a year away. Perhaps even two years into the future.
I agree. But I think Mayfield will have a great year. We have to be able to spread teams out and then run the hell out of the ball. I want 48-50 points a game.
D Hunter, I think you got that right. Mayfield will do well in this offense and we will still run it plenty. Man, I’m pumped for this.
No, anything intelligent is welcomed.
All of us “experts” need to withold judgement. If we knew 10.37% of what we think we know, we would be making $5 mil a year and not giving our opinions on a message board. A GREAT message board, but still amessage board!
I would prefer more winning and less losing
And how did those 1500 yards work out this season ?
Fine considering we won most of the games we were run heavy in.
Fine? Lol ok??
You asked how the 1500 yards went. They were fine. Rushing was the least of our problems this season. But we just hired an OC who wants to throw the ball 60 times a game.
I understand your fear. I don’t think any of us want a pass happy game plan on the regular. But I think everyone’s point and I agree is that he game planned to his players strengths and probably a bit of his knowledge. But think about this. He didn’t have Gundy or the caliber of running backs OU recruits. If he’s smart, which I don’t think that’s in question, we will run and run often next year.
So, I have deduced from a few recent posts that we can start hatin’ on the guy even though it’s not completely confirmed that he has been offered?
Hatin’ will go on and on even when it is confirmed Mo.
Some people hated Leach and were calling for more balance after the 2000 NC season. It will never stop! LOL!
Leach didn’t have a single thing to do with the 2000 NC season. Zero, zilch, nada.
I wouldn’t go that far. He definitely made an impact before he left.
lots of people do not enjoy life. they don’t even like it. anything less than “life” will be treated with disdain by them. “if i don’t like life, why should i like that we hired this guy” and so on and so forth
I’m gonna allow myself to bask in the glow until at least Spring ball. lol
In it to win it.
amen. i can’t stand know it alls who think their opinion is “it”. i can’t say it any plainer than let life play out. enjoy the ride. have a coke and a smile
……more positivity drama right on cue…
oh sorry mr grinch. i should cowtow to all the pessimists and just bring everyone else down. is that the company line?
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Right.
A large number of Internet “fans” have this as their motto:
Fire !
Lose Lincoln!!
Hot Rod Lincoln.
I’m very happy with this hire, the 60/40 offense is better than what we was playing, when teams are putting 8 in the box, it shows the know that our pass game sucks!
Let’s put a shirt and whistle on some guy and go play some damn ball!
Distraction!
IMHO this is a distraction to take attention from SF.
Love it.
Wouldn’t be funny if this hire doesn’t happen? They can’t put anything on the internet that isn’t true. I forgot!
I’m willing to bet the new OC is the one Coach Stoops announces at a press conference.
Sequiter.
Non.
What? That’s absurd.
I have a right to my opinion. 🙂
I thought it was Deanos call not Bobs
Dangit, you’re right. My mind is still spinning from all the talk about “feelings” up thread.
Come on east tex. You know deano is the real shot caller at OU
I know…I know.
I was struggling with the “feelings” talk and had to resist my normal video response.
Don’t know to embed a tweet but just saw that Riley has coached two 1,000 yard rushers 2 of the past 3 seasons and the only reason it wasn’t three in 3 seasons is because of injury
Bam Boom.
None balance
I am excited! It is not about age, it’s about creativity and translating that on the field. This is a great hire, congrats to Bob and OU.
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Well, alrighty then. I’m fine with it.
Light it up Lincoln. Light it up. BIG deal for the young man if true.
https://twitter.com/wnct9/status/554706265528860672
Just saw this quote about taking another coaching job from Lincoln Riley from a year or so ago and it made me like him even more!
“I told myself that if I’m lucky enough to get opportunities, I don’t want to jump at the first one,” he said in mid-December as he sat in his small office next to Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium on the East Carolina campus. “It’s not a deal where I’m looking to leave. If there’s something that’s life-changing, there’s something you’ve got to look at.”
He must think this is a life changing opportunity and that is the kind of commitment we need from our OC at OU!
Here’s this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQBKC_lPwZc
Thank you Swanny.
Here’s some highlights from their QB this season:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGZVKLiIxQ8
I don’t recognize this kind of football? What is this,….throwing it for over 15 yards? Are teams allowed to do that?
Its allowed, but you gotta light it up. Light it up Lincoln.
Wait, why was the QB looking one way, then the next, and then firing to the open man? What is that called?
I love good football.
That long-hair TE gets a lot of action.
Ummm.. you’re allowed to throw it in the middle of the field? When did this happen?
NCAA rules, circa 2014.
I know, all these “trick” plays seem to be pretty good. Learning all sorts of things right now. did you also notice the defense was allowed to put pressure on and tackle the QB…..
Why would they use tall WR’s? It’s all about the small guys that are afraid to.get hit. I’m not sure this guy knows what he’s doing.
I like the fact that there were a lot of different receiver names called. Both Trevor and Jones weren’t nearly as successful without their go to. Maybe a product of the offense and the development of the QB’s. Riley had his hand in both.
Well I guess this means Rick Moranis is out.
sorry brother. still got wr’s tho….
https://twitter.com/Matt_Fortuna/status/554701654239768576
Dang it! Not who I wanted, but got to trust Bob obviously.
I will reserve additional comments until I see the product on the field. Past performance, although a good indicator, does not guarantee the future performance; because the variables that assisted in the success or failure of the past performance cannot be carried forward in whole. So here is to this being a “knocked out of the park” hirer and this time next year the talking heads for the Natty are deliberating over our beloved University….See you at the spring game…
He comes from the Air Raid family tree but it appears to me he has evolved his way of thinking and that is what I want to see from an OC. http://eastcarolina.247sports.com/Article/The-evolution-of-Lincoln-Riley-and-ECUs-offense-30594094
agreed…..really want to see FLEXIBILITY from the OC and tailoring the offense according to the talent on campus…
Here is another article supporting is maturation as an OC http://eastcarolina.247sports.com/Article/The-evolution-of-Lincoln-Riley-and-ECUs-offense-30594094
I’m sorry but I just threw up in my mouth a little. This is a hire you would make after a successful run and your coord moves on to a HC job. Thats when you take chances. He fired one guy that was a Leach discipline for another one, except younger and with less big stage experience? Linc is a great coach and has a bright future but if its me, I bring him in with an OC with more experience outside of little schools. I’m sorry but I don’t know how you justify firing JH and JN for Linc and a lesser position coach. You supposedly have all the resources you need from the university and this is the big pick, the rev the motor back up guy?! I don’t see it. I am afraid scary times lay ahead.
I’m with you. I think this is a bad hire.
maybe BS couldn’t entice an older, more experienced OC to Norman……….
well hell fellas let’s just join uab and shut the whole thing down. screw it
Burn it down…down to the ground!
Failure before the first play; pretty solid .prognostication
Well, regardless of who is hired the deal is the same: You have to wait and see. He can do just as good or just as bad as any other.
Well said, Justin.
smh
If we don’t make sweeping changes on the defensive side of the ball, then this hire is irrelevant and we’ll suck again next year since we can’t stop anyone.
Maybe Bob was convinced by the example of Jerry Montgomery that what we lacked most was energy and youth and as a result stayed away from recruiting tired old men.
Just b/c you run a similar (not the same–check it out) offense doesn’t mean the OC is the same. With your reasoning then, you could never fire a DC who runs 3-4 and hire another one who runs a 3-4. What we are looking for is an improvement in quality of coaching and play-calling. Not every coach is equal with the very same talent.
Reason. Right.
This is a very good hire. Has texas ties and can coach.
Dualism, life in the world. I agree. This is a very good hire.
This is not a home run hire and hope he isn’t in over his head! How did he do against a power 5 team with a pulse??
With East Carolina talent? What would that tell us?
Average recruiting class rank over the last four years: 77th. (from 247’s rankings)
uhh 800 yards against nc.
500 yards against south carolina va tech and florida. id say he faired alright against p5 schools
It’s all about talent. Take a proven system and add elite talent to it and you can play against anyone. See Paul Johnson/Georgia Tech.
The case study I really like a lot. GT.
He beat a team that beat a team that’s playing tonight.
Stardate 1/12/2015 no intelligent life forms found on this site. Beam me up Scottie.
Hey, hey, hey. Alright, I’ll take that.
Riley is a great coach but the wrong offense.
I don’t believe BS wants a more successful JH.
Riley appears to be hired but in what capacity?
….just curious, did this guy ever come here for an interview/visit………
Yes. Quietly. (TFB confirmed this)
Too bad about Cumbie. I thought they would make a nice tandem.
But, we don’t know yet right?
Just going by the update. I’m a little surprised Cumbie wouldn’t go for it, but I guess we’ll see. Def need someone to coach up the QB’s. These guys had solid rankings coming in.
Yup.Yep.
Ditto
I like the fact that Riley was Crabtree’s position coach during his big season, and also the extremely high praise for Riley from Leach. Both good signs, I think.
Who here thinks Spurrier is a great O coach? Spurrier is good/great friends with Stoops right? ECU played USC this year right? Maybe Spurrier got with Stoops and said Riley’s your man, maybe it could have went down like that. I will wait and see what Riley can do with OU type players,before I judge this one.
Does this show faith in Mayfield? We know Knight can’t run this offense.
I hope Mayfield is the answer, or that whom ever comes in, can get better production out of who ever is on campus.
If true, SF must of said no to BS offer.
Or Riley will be a position coach.
If Riley was first choice, should have been announced last week and not today.
I still believe SF will be the OC.
Riley will call plays, small chance he comes to Norman and doesn’t. He has turned down some big jobs recently.
SF can teach Riley to call plays.
Not likely, but possible.
I can’t believe BS wants to return to Leach.
Despite the success , BS has always wanted a balanced power running game.
I’m sorry to disappoint you, but Scott Frost will leave Oregon for a head coaching gig only. He will not be the OU OC.
I am waiting on the fat lady.
I don’t believe that to be true. If he was given a bunch of money and a chance to enhance his profile rather than being the followup in a system already in place, I think he would take it. He was passed over by Nebraska already and at this point is looking at HC offers from low-level P5 teams at best. If he could rebuild an offense at a high profile school, he would get looks from schools with NC championship potential.
That being said, if Riley is on board, I don’t see Frost in the mix.
Personally, I like the hire, just curious no more co-oc’s then?
I know I for one would hate to go back to that Leach offensive system that won all those games, Big 12 titles and a Natty but that’s just me. Yeah we have very good RBs right now which just makes that system more dangerous. They are excellent receivers out of the backfield, pass protectors, and all excellent in space.
Think you might be on to something, Josh. wink wink Did anyone ever think that fans that have called for the head of every OC ever under Bob would be 100% happy as a fan base with whoever is named? Frost, Shanahan, Chip Kelly … it wouldn’t matter. Think it’s a great hire and could be an explosive offense.
Did I miss anything about Cumbie? Is he off the table as a second hire to work with Riley?
12:47 update above.
Doh!
Gotta hit the refresh button once in a while.
Thanks
Yeah, I’ve been wearing this mouse out.
At least he has Texas High School connections, so I guess I am okay.
If, in fact, QB is wide open next year – don’t sleep on Hanson.
Yep, my feeling as well. I think Hansen is really, really, good. And could be on the field as well.
Yep. Unlike Knight and Mayfield, he sits tall in the pocket.
Russell Wilson and Drew Brees are anomolies as far as I can tell. Really got to see over the line in most cases.
Agreed. Hanson can run well too!
But, but….what about Johnny Football!!!?? Bahahahahaha….
haha.
Cool, so is he on the phone with DeMarkus Lodge, yet? Feel like he would fit in perfect in Riley’s system.
I still believe OU has lots of WR talent currently on the roster. Hopefully Riley’s development of WR’s (which were great at ECU) will pay dividends
But Lodge would be nice!
]I guess Dean isn’t as big as an idiot as everyone was saying.
No, he still is, but every squirrel finds a nut eventually.
Yep! Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I think the coaches throw him a bone every now and then to keep him somewhat relevant..
Hope he can recruit Texass!
He is from Texas, and was on the staff at Tech. Should know the area well enough.
Anyone know about the rumor that Bedenbaugh and Riley didn’t get along?
See other post. Not a true rumor.
Got ya! Thanks
Definitely man.
They grown ass men. I’m sure they’ll be fine.
Whow. Thats cool.
Someone close this deal. ^ Kid is a baller. Would look great in crimson.
With Cumbie out i wonder if the Candle guy from Toledo would be willing to take the spot.
I hope so, I really like that guy
i’ve only read good things about him as well.
Might be a good choice. Would he be willing to give up the play calling status?
dont know. i did see somewhere that he’s only making about $100k at toldeo. I suspect he could make several times that here and maybe he might be willing to come even without play calling duties for that much more money.
Yeah, I saw $115,000 per. Might be a solid hire. Probably depend on who Riley wants at this point.
If the fat lady is singing , let Riley bring or choose his wr coach. It will be his offense.
I trolled the Pirate and Fexas boards and it seems everyone *BUT* OU fans think highly of Riley. Folks want a big time hire and forget that all these “big names” started somewhere. Welcome to Soonerland MR. Riley
Welcome, Lincoln Riley, welcome.
I would have been okay with Helton from WKU or Sonnie Cumbie too, but Riley is a quality hire from an Xs and Os standpoint…I just want to make sure he can recruit well too, and in someplace other than TX. But we need to fix our defense more than anything else. On a scale of 1-10, I rank the importance of this hire about a 4.5, and on the defensive side of the ball, I’d rank that about a 20.
He was able to get a couple of 3 stars from Florida and the Carolinas that had offers from bigger schools, Florida included. Like coach B and Monty, he’ll need time, but thankfully there is already a stable of QBs that he can work with. He also seems to have really good vibe with his players.
Now the WR coach…he needs to be able to hit the ground running. We need to land the big time receivers- even then there is talent on the roster.
On Recruiting- He’s already following Wariboko, Kyler Murray, Van Jefferson and Dominique Reed on twitter. I love the energy.
Coached Crabtree and one of his WRs at ECU just broke RB85’s NCAA reception record and made All American 3rd team. Not bad resume thus far.
Is Riley officially announced as OC, or is everyone just guessing?
Yes
We need another recruiter as well as a coach. If Riley can recruit in-state and CA and FL talent, then he will be a nice addition. I hope they offer Candle the WR gig because he recruits well, and emphasizes Florida. Plus, he has some impressive WRs that he’s coached. I believe Pierre Garçon is one of them.
I want guy who coaches ECUs WRs. They get open, battle for the ball, play with passion, and can run.
Bigger problem is still a QB that can deliver the ball. Most of the ECU highlights are WR’s that TK doesn’t see.
tk went to ecu?
Maybe that’s been TK’s problem…he’s looking for open ECU receivers on OU’s field.
that there is funny
Gotta get and develop a GOOD QB
Would think that Bob and maybe Gundy are teaming on this decision and would listen to the new hire for ideas including WR coach.
Air Raid Offense:
1. Back to Leach
2. A pass in the flat is considered a lateral
3. Scores points, exciting but doesn’t win NC
4. Given BS statements and prior actions, I would interpret this as a desperation hire that will begin the end of the BS era of OU football.
5. I still have hope for a SF hire as the OC
Your tone of writing allows me to appreciate your comments. And I would not disagree because I simply don’t have arguments, except to say that this is a make it or break it hire. I think it is a make it.
I hope you are right!
I know you do, and I hope so too.
“your tone…it’s all wrong. say that again i’ll stab you in the face with a soldering iron. tell me, does your mother sew? heyooo”
Dorothy Mantooth! You again!
that’s from joe dirt. love that movie. christopher walken plays clem, who is a rat from the mob who is hidden in this town as a janitor at a school
He said that to Kid Rock correct?
no he said it to his reflection in the window of the fire extinguisher
*Broken record alert* This hire won’t mean anything if our D sucks again next year.
Ain’t broken to me, got to fix it.
I just gonna say this, the more a offense scores and moves the ball, the better the defense is! A well rested defense dominates in fourth quarter!
It does if they can keep that stinky D off the field. 🙂
What Offense did we win NC with?
This offense won us our last national championship.
I really, really, really don’t get the back to Leach line of thinking…at all.
I don’t either.
Nope
BS started with Leach in 1999.
BS returns to Leach disciple in 2015 to end the BS era IMHO.
Okay, I get the connection. I don’t see it as analogous to the offense Riley has been running, though.
Can someone or TFB explain the difference to me between and Air Raid offense and the schemes that Auburn or Oregon run? And why is Lincoln Riley considered an Air Raid offense guy with a 1,000 yard RB? Thanks in advance!
Auburn and especially Oregon spread the field with receivers everywhere and they pass the ball a lot, BUT they are predicated on the running game. Mike Leach teams pass 90% of the time and ocassionally run the ball very little. The RB is as much a pass catcher as a runner in Leach’s system.
Wasn’t Riley’s offense roughly 55% pass, 45% run?
At least that is what I thought I read somewhere. His offense had evolved from heavily pass oriented to much more balanced.
correct. riley’s offense is actually fairly balanced and he adjusts it every year to his personnel. He is considered an “air raid” for 2 reasons: 1) he comes from mike leaches tree 2)if you watch how his teams line up it looks like the air raid but he is much more dedicated to the run.
you will occasionally see him go under center
And by 90%, you mean nowhere near 90%. Also, This is Lincoln Riley. Not Mike Leach. Go look at the numbers.
Because people can’t seem to fathom that a guy from the Leach coaching tree would actually run the ball. It’s the Deano syndrome….can’t let facts get in the way.
Of all the days to bash Deano? When he scooped the entire Sooner World?
Like I said in another thread….Deano just throws stuff on the wall and sees what sticks. He finally got one right and will look like he has real sources or someone inside the program. Most people are smart enough to realize he just took a shot in the dark and finally hit a bulls eye.
I’m by no means a Deano lover, but what exactly has he gotten wrong? Besides Stoops to UF? TFB said less than a year ago that Saban to UT was a done deal. You still trust them right? (He does ask the all time dumbest questions in Thunder pressers, I’ll give you that)
Just off the top of my head….I immediately think of the Stoops to Florida and Baker Mayfield being granted immediate eligibility. There’s plenty more, but those are the two that come to mind first.
And Mike to LSU.
But you have amnesia about the Saban to UT thing?
Why does that mean I have amnesia? TFB got it wrong once, I’ll let that slide. If they start having multiple incorrect “predictions” that they’ll lose my trust.
Well I hope they dont. Just didn’t see the reason to bash a former player on a day when he actually got it spot on.
I don’t discriminate on the days I bash Dean the “journalist”. Dean the former player is OK in my book. But Dean the “journalist” just isn’t very professional and I have no respect for him.
Sharp dig MrBigsby. But that is the right diagnosis, in my opinion, in most cases in this big discussion.
Not only a 1k rusher, but a quarterback that rushed over 100 times, another 1k rushing spread out between others 4k passing 2600 rushing, sounds good to this old man!
Riley accepts job.
http://newsok.com/lincoln-riley-accepts-position-as-sooners-offensive-coordinator/article/5383985
Now to get a good WR coach.
If he wasn’t already, Baker is now the runaway leader for starting qb next year. He has played in this offense since pee-wee football.
Joe mixon should be very happy as well. This offense fits his style of play very well
I would think all the RBs would love not facing 8-9 in a box.
I have been thinking the same.
After watching the Perine highlights today…dude would wreck shop in this offense.
Wreck shop. Add a rocket ship to those highlights that just goes straight down the middle of the field.
I think Perine would be a wrecking ball in any offense. Dude is crazy good.
Ding, ding, ding. No more calls, please. We have a winner.
Too true. It will be Perine vs defensive backs all day. I see a lot of opposing injuries next year
Riley is going to give the offensive group of running backs and wide receivers, and qb’s, fun again. Its going to be fun to play for Riley.
I was thinking the same thing. Players on campus and new recruits must be licking their chops. If you cab ball you’ll excel under this guy. Need a solid WR coach to teach these guys how to play.
I’m excited for the WR coach. I think Riley in place, makes it possible now to go get the best guy, best fit, that will work in harmony with Riley’s system. I’d like to see Riley with a WR coach that is a bit older, who builds confidence, and builds a plethora of WR’s into reliable individuals, and players.
I would like to think he has already created a short list of candidates with Coach Stoops.
Yeah, I think so too. Actually, yeah, no brainer.
It’s moments like these that grown men realize they too have nipples.
hand over mouth, slow laugh.
LOL
All 3 of mine are as hard as a diamond in an ice storm right now
Mine could cut glass. :-0
I have nipples Greg. Could you milk me?
Homerun.
Not a reference I am familiar with.
Meet the Fokkers
That’s why I’m not familiar with it.
Easton my son texted me and said ” I told you LR would be the next OC” told me he called it right after JH was fired! I agree with you, the offense will have a new life!
Cool father-son connection OUhomer. He just had that sense, must be a fun guy to hang out with and watch football.
Yes he is, this is how bad it is, my wife has been in hospital this weekend. I was talking to her during game, and son called I told her ttyl.
Nothing compares to having a good dad. Good job. I’ll be one to a son in March.
I raised him to bleed Crimson and Cream, and my job is well OK, I can tell my boss F’off, so that is a plus!
Plus, plus, plus. I hope I am better at being a father, than I am at being an employee. That is a shift for me.
Congrats on being a Dad! Both of my sons are my best friends! The only thing is one doesn’t really like football, and he claims to be a niners fan!
Claims. Thats funny.
This hire is plain awesome.
I think the players will buy in and have a blast. JH is not a bad coach but the offense just turned stale. (Not all his fault) new blood is needed and will bring the team back to life.
I just remember watching those OU offenses in the early and mid 2000s where it honestly looked like they were playing with extra guys because people were just running free. The biggest issue I had with the last couple of years was with the route trees being utilized. I mean for the love of Pete how many times did we see TK drop back and throw a freaking out route. Great route when Troy Aikman is your QB and can put the ball wherever he wants but not so much with a kid that doesn’t have the best accuracy. And what was the only deep route we ever saw? SS running a go. Look at some of the tape on EC. Dudes are running crossers, digs, skinny posts, seems and running free! And not just against scrubs… VA Tech, SC and UNC. Watch the film! Shouldn’t be sour because OU has a tank of a RB and you’re worried he won’t get utilized. OU had a tank last year that was utilized plenty to the tune of 8-5 and crucial stops on 4th and 1 in numerous games!
Yes.
Indeed.
Remember going to watch OU for the 1st time with the Leach offense. People were referring to it as The Red Swarm. Fun to watch. Look for this to be Red Swarm 2.0 with Perine running free in the 2nd level.
Does anyone think lincoln will try to bring in another qb…with baker and trevor being juniors.
i wouldn’t mind waiting to try to get guarantano next year
I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see a transfer. Maybe a graduated guy with eligibility. Who knows.
do you have anyone in mind? i would think this takes us out of the braxton miller running…not that we were ever in it
No clue, but I like that Riley has found a few “diamonds in the rough” already. All of these silly people saying “Air raid” eleventymillion times should realize that if it is indeed “Air raid” the QB’s in that system usually flourish. See Tech, Texas.
I believe he will want to, now that his recruiting options have just been elevated to top ten national talent.
Also will this help or hurt the kyler murray pipe dream?
Was wondering the same thing
Murray spurned Oregon as he wants to be in a passing offense. Welp…here ya go, Mr. Murray. You can pass and run the ball on occasion when there are no open receivers but a lot of open field. Think OUr odds just went up.
Well I would hope that he would at least get on campus and work with the current crop of QB’s to see what he has before he writes them off. SMH
SMH? you are shaking your head at the idea we might not have very good quarterback play and his system requires accurate qbs?
do you think trevor or cody qualify as accurate? trevor is lucky to hit 60% of his passes. that means we have a junior in baker and an unknown in justice. I would say there is room for a qb.
Actually, 60% is pretty good, the current ECU QB was at 63.5
Accuracy isn’t a problem for Thomas, confidence and experience OTH is.
IMO 63.5% isn’t very good if you’re throwing a lot of bubble screen’s and quick game. Also depends on how good your team is. Easier to complete 3rd and 6 than 3rd and 16.
Looking at the Shane Carden video I saw throws down field.
ECU had 4835 yards passing for the season, I don’t think you get those results from screens.
Good to hear. I haven’t watched any ECU tape, was just speaking in generalities.
Further down the thread Swanny posted some ECU highlight videos, one of Carden so it only shows the passing game.
imho, the criticisms of TK’s accuracy are not very reliable. I know from looking at them that several of his errant passes were clearly not his fault. Hard to tell on some others, but very likely many of those weren’t either. Obviously had room for improvement, but I think a group of elite receivers would make a huge difference.
Or an OC who had WR’s running routes that actually created space.
this is a dead horse, I guess, but the coaches frequently commented that the receivers were not spacing their routes the way they were taught to in practice.
Which comes down to coaching. When was the last time you seen an OU WR have a game (Don’t go Bama on me) where they were running open down the seam or deep and be open. Seen it happen alot, especially BU, happen to OU. If it was a one year issue I could see what your saying, but it has been an issue for a while.
WVU, Kstate, just a couple of examples from this season. There were others.
But not consistantly. That was my point.
Saw another assessment where TK still rushes his throws, mostly inexperience. This causes receivers to ‘rush’ their routes and break them off. All very correctable with more experience and a good QB coach. Looking for significant improvement next year.
“causes receivers to rush their routes.” I don’t buy it at all. If a receiver is breaking his route off he’s gonna get roasted in the film room by the coaches after the game, and using the qb as an excuse won’t get him any slack. If a receiver does that it’s a receiver issue, not the qb.
Am sure, like you were saying about not doing what they were practicing. TK better at throwing on the move and only having to ‘read’ 1/2 the field.
honestly I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a qb “lay out” his receivers as much as tk. most of his throws are high and he leaves them hanging
I don’t agree that your generalization is correct. Not at all convinced that “most of his throws were high.” Also, I’ve seen many receivers “hung out to dry” by qb’s all over the place, and sometimes it’s due to the positioning and the way the receiver runs the route as much as it is the throw.
I discount the bowl game this year, he was either afraid or lost confidence after being out from his neck injury.
He impressed me quite a bit after he settled down last year, even more so in the Sugar and early this year.
Something was missing in the development of our QBs and WRs. This change may make a difference in the players attitudes and performance.
When I looked at the bowl game, I saw two possessions in which the defenders were a couple of yards deep in our backfield on every play, then I saw a possession where TK threw the ball very well. Then I saw a 1st and 25 where he threw an interception because two wr’s couldn’t block the one defender they needed to keep out of the play. I think we were down 17 after that. At some point maybe I’ll look back at the rest of it and see if I have the same impression of the rest of it…
From what I’ve seen the issue has been in QB developement. It all went down hill when Heup went to the box. I was SMH at the thought that we are saying this new OC should start recruiting a QB before he hs even had time to see what he has on campus.
Who said anything about writing them off? The more competition, the better.
Now as long as the half of our fan base that has went full retard will shut up and support the man, OU football might be fun again.
I think all the people comparing him to heupel need to just be quiet. they have no idea what they are talking about. I don’t get why people act like heupel is from leaches tree? he played one year under leach and never coached under him. meanwhile lincoln was his right hand man for 7 years.
They read message boards and played jr high football, so they’re clearly experts, Duh.
If anything, Heupel was more of a Kevin Wilson understudy as QB coach for him from 2005 till 2010.
That makes the sense to me. Heupel – Wilson.
I am positive that you shouldn’t worry about it.
Why are a lot of people acting like the “Air Raid” offense (which most people are attributing to Leach and Mumme, but even they will tell you most of their offense comes from the offense BYU used in the 80s & 90s) does not to like running the football! So called disciples of this offense Art Briles at Baylor pass run distribution was 519 pass/ 619 rush, Klingsbury/Morris at Texas Tech(worst average by far but they played from behind a ton this year) 559/355, Sonny Dykes/ Tony Franklin at California 535/440 (also played from behind), Dana Holgerson at West Virgina 534/563, and Kevin Sumlin at aTm 514/421. Heck Leach at Washington State in a season playing behind all year and loosing 9 games had 20 rushing attempts a game this past year. JH had a 386/557 difference and we all said we would have to be able to pass the ball better to win in this league. This offense can and will run the ball especially with the talent OU has. I think Riley will maximize talent whether it is running or throwing the ball!
Please stop using logic and facts to make your point here; its not allowed!
My Bad! My Bad!
I think everyone that is against this is concerned due to the fact that QB play was less than stellar(understatement of the year) and because of the RB talent. I think this system, which is very QB friendly both in route tree and decision making will help the QBs out immensely and the RBs are all very well suited for this system. They are all great receivers out of the backfield, they all pass protect very well, and all will love to not see 8 and 9 dudes in the box next yr. No way K State can sell out all 11 dudes to stop SP against this system.
Really good write-up 74.
a lot of people have no idea what they want. they just know they wanna bitch. 99% of the football world know that the running game is what is needed to win. most coaches will tell you that til they are blue in the face. a solid run game will win games and championships. people go back and forth because they don’t know what they’re talking about and just bitch to bitch to keep up with the joneses(the other bitchers). one thing goes wrong in their lives, such as the car won’t turn over in the morning, and they don’t know how to handle it. adversity scares the tar out of these people
Ah yes, the Al Swearingen approach. Love it.
wow! i couldn’t have said it better. that scene needs to be my motto. that show is awesome by the way
If he’s lyin’ he’s dyin’.
I miss that show! So friggin good!
al friggin swearigen……….a true hero.
i cried when they cancelled the series.
his scenes with woo were gold , just gold
Do you run to set up the pass or pass to set up the run? Bob believes in the later. In either, you are looking to have an effective run game. And in the end, you are trying to dictate pace and capitalize on what the defense is doing.
bob seems to be one of the few who believes it to be that way and he’s successful with it. i would be willing to bet tho that he would still say that a solid ground game will lead to more victories and more championships. its more than cliche to say ground attack and defense wins championships just as it is short game and putter win titles. and yes the d CAN dictate at times what you do, but even if there’s 11 in the box you can still scheme to run at it, through it, around it, what have you
I don’t think there are to many defensive minded coaches who don’t appreciate a solid clock eating ground game. Just look at the Cowboys and what they did with an offense that complimented the defense by not over exposing them. Heck, if Tony Romo wouldn’t of called an audible on that 4th and one they may be still playing next week.
true. i haven’t had a chance to see if it was a catch or not. at first i thought it was but now i wanna see it again to see what the refs saw on replay.
if you look at what the cowboys had this yr, you will see one of the best rb’s in the league behind one of the best olines in history, which made demarco look even better. they have romo and dez and witten and williams is pretty good, beasley is pretty good, escobar is pretty good….but yes if the d is just ok or worse and lost lee yet again right before the season started then yes run game and burn that clock and help yourself win some ballgames. smart smart football. ‘at’s right
Do you run to set up the pass or pass to set up the run? Bob believes in the later. In either, you are looking to have an effective run game. And in the end, you are trying to dictate pace and capitalize on what the defense is doing.
Here is another example of him playing to strengths of system. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/aac/2014/09/23/college-football-inside-the-game-east-carolina-pirates/16098091/
Doobie – the offense Baylor runs is not “Air Raid” despite what the % show.
That was kind of my point! All these guys are from the Mike Leach coaching tree but that doesn’t mean they don’t run balanced attacks! Of all the so called “Air Raid” disciples of which Art Briles is said to be a part of only Leach throws the ball anywhere close to 75% or 80% of the time and these other guys are closer to a 60/40 split if not better.
Well stated Doobie. BOOMER!!
OU offense = ECU offense and vice versa…Josh could go to ECU and they wouldn’t know Lincoln was gone! Now that Lincoln is here we may not realize Josh is gone.
They seem to run the very same offense as OU. I don’t see a nickels difference in the two. Poor Josh had to deal with different QB’s and adjust his play calling accordingly. Look at ECU games from last year and see what you think. Personnel is different of course but they even looked very similar….I don’t know if this is good or bad but I was taken back when I watched some ECU tape……
As the saying goes, opinions are like a$$holes. Everyone has one. But no one thinks theirs stink. It’s really a waste of time to be overly concerned with knee jerk opinions on the Internet, so I wouldn’t worry about what certain people think about the “Air Raid” offense.
That said, you make valid points. The more I read about Riley the more I like him.
http://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/2015/1/12/7532789/oklahoma-sooners-football-lincoln-riley-hired-as-oc
Seems pretty final to me.
Like the fact the fact that Riley turnt Notre Dame, and Kentucky down. And said yes to The University of Oklahoma.
Score a big one for Deano… although the appropriate expression may be, “Even a blind squirrel…” his sources seem to have nailed it this time.
Does anyone know whether Riley is a sideline guy or up in the box? I looked at their highlight film but couldn’t tell.
One of the articles I read yesterday mentioned him calling from the box. Not sure what he would do here.
If the play caller thinks he can see the game better and call it better from the box, that’s what he should do. Many of the most successful do just that. Maybe most. They talk to the qb constantly on the headset on the sidelines, as soon as he comes off the field. There are other coaches and players there to provide the emotionally calming influence in person if need be. IMHO, it’s a non-issue.
WR’s coach should be that guy.
All I know is if we put up an average of 40+ points per game, the people whining now will say how they told us this guy was a genius.
it wont be a stretch to gain 4 ppg next year, just cant lose games scoring 30+…Im looking at you Mike, Tim, and BJW
That’s 2 more wins this past season and given OU was up on Baylor but couldn’t move the ball consistently, I like the odds better now. Same in the bowl. Zero offense leads to tired and frustrated D.
Mike, Tim, and BJW aren’t likely to be OU coaches next year, IMO.
Jordan look away.
https://twitter.com/eddie_rado/status/554741417218539520
Need his classmate as well
Lodge or Jefferson would be a nice get, especially if Murray decides to come to OU. May entice some others as well. We shall see.
If Riley is the kind of recruiter we want, he flew down to Texas after his meeting with Bob!
If Riley could reel in Kyler Murray, it would be a way to bring immediate dividends and soften some of the concern in the OU fanbase.
LOL that he has to pull a miracle on day one to soften concerns of the fan base. That’s some delusion for you. That said, please tiny little 6 lb 4oz baby jesus give us Murray!!!
No one ever said Sooner fans were easy to please, bro.XD
No but if he did pull off the miracle that would put to rest the “entitled” fans
“But, but…..Kenny Hill transferred, no way we get Murray now.”
Says a bunch of OU fans. I have a good feeling about Murray. Did even before the Riley hiring.
Does this make up for Dean Blevins previous nonsense?
It gives him another chance to make up more non sense
If I understand the current state of news reporting correctly, I believe it wipes the slate clean…:-)
I wonder if that DGB guy would enjoy playing for Riley?
Let’s see:
1. Play for Riley
2. Play for over $1M.
Tough call
If that was the call I’d agree with you. It’s more like, possibly go 3rd round, small signing bonus, or stay and possibly go 1st round and make $15 mil for writing your name. He’ll have a $3 mil insurance policy if he stays and gets hurt.
I’ve never ever heard of a guy say “just kidding” after announcing he was declaring for the draft…
I’m not saying he would. I’m just saying it might be something new for him to consider. I’m not sure if it would make a difference or not. Also, I didn’t know he did announce. Never saw anything official.
Last I heard he was doing some checking with the NFL on their domestic violence policy/policies.
That would certainly be bizarre!
Min salary for someone who doesn’t get drafted is almost $500k. DGB will make over a mill this year and if he does well in a year or two, they will lock him up on a large 2nd contract. Sure, I wish he would stay but.
If that was the call I’d agree with you. It’s more like, possibly go 3rd round, small signing bonus, or stay and possibly go 1st round and make $15 mil for writing your name. He’ll have a $3 mil insurance policy if he stays and gets hurt.
If DGB told Bob days before the presser he was going pro, I’d say he’s already signed with an agent.
Sources tell me no agent or paperwork has been filed. I also don’t know how old the information is so it could have certainly changed by now.
If DGB told Bob days before the presser he was going pro, I’d say he’s already signed with an agent.
If you have the ability to access ESPN3, should go watch the ECU/Florida game to get a read on his offensive play calling strategy. But with our backfield I think it would a little more run heavy, unless 1 or two more WR/TE step up.
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player/_/id/2275783/size/condensed/
Amazing how some people take over a topic and make it their own personal agenda
now I make it worse just with my comments….good grief…any higher is a good hire we have nowhere to go but up…..BTW the Defensive change Kish is gone. Boz is taking over…
Dude. Jrsy. I agree. I also vented that Bosworth should be the next LB coach. Just a vent.
Good Lord, no.
I hope you guys aren’t serious :). Boz, no experience coaching, hasn’t been in the game for decades and you want him to coach, good one :).
I vented, just a thought that swept through my ducts Royg.
He’s got passion though. We could use a shot of that!
Amazing how some people take over a topic and make it their own personal agenda
now I make it worse just with my comments….good grief…any higher is a good hire we have nowhere to go but up…..BTW the Defensive change Kish is gone. Boz is taking over…
Looks like he swings for the fence in recruiting. He’s already followed the following on Twitter:
Wariboko
Murray
Lodge
Van Jefferson
Another young coach who utilizes social media for recruiting. Money.
If you’re gonna converse with young people nowadays, ya gotta be on social media. No two ways around it.
He’s following Reed and AD Miller as well…Reed is juco wr from Arky and Miller is a 3star from dallas dune
I will say that I’m impressed LR is already following some of our recruiting targets on twitter!
Can I get one more National title before I croak?
Depends on whether you’re willing to stay off the freeways…
So true, so true.
Kruger and Co. are working on it
I think the ducks throw the ball a lot and also run ball give it a chance . good hire !!!
Will everyone stop posting so I can get some work done?
I know, right
Question:
Why did we reject the Leach Air Raid Offense now that we are returning to the same basic offense with adjustments?
Dude seriously? Just let it go man. Let it go. Give it a chance. Take a deep breath and enjoy today. We’re 1-0 on the day.
Roger that Mav
– Goose
Goose, unRoger Mav
– Gander
Dude, I have always supported the Leach, Baylor, Texas Tech offense.
I support Riley as OC.
I believe he will be successful because the Leach offense works.
BS decision making is in question given his constant desire for a power run game and a balanced run/pass offense.
I supported SF because of BS statements and the firing of JH.
I also believe the Oregon offense is new , innovative and a proven success.
Switzer supports the Oregon offense.
I prefer we try something new, creative and successful that is consistent with BS stated football philosophy.
Except for BS inconsistent actions and behavior, I believe Riley is an excellent choice.
The Question is:
Will BS do to Riley what he did to JH?
Will BS let Riley run the offense without constant demands for more run game.?
Yep.
Ask that in the spring after you’ve seen even an inkling of the offense. None of us have any idea to the questions you’re asking. Just enjoy it man. If it ends up being the worst disaster in sports history, we’ll be here bitching about it with you.
Dude, you did it again!
I said Riley would be successful so why would I bitch?
BS is the problem!
If he starts interfering with the offense he has chosen, I and others will be calling for Riley to replace him as HC.
Well that tells me all I need to know then. You can’t give it a day? Not one day? Don’t you ever get tired of carrying the pitchfork?
You personalize your comments and then retaliate with persona pejoratives. You need to do a personality inventory.
Lol, some of you are too good to be true.
You need to test your IQ while taking an MMPI.
Now I remember why I avoid message boards. PM me if you want a copy of my mensa card oh wise Waters.
Those who have mensa cards don’t need to show them.
Until some blowhard on the internet tells you to take an IQ test. Then it’s kind of handy.
There you go again!
Do yourself a favor and take the MMPI.
You can’t do anything about your IQ.
Your wife loves my personality. U mad bro?
You are sick!
She’s not that bad man, give her some credit.
boys, ease up and enjoy the folks on here.
Well this got out of hand quick.
My bad. It was too funny, I couldn’t help it.
There you go Maverick, losing your wing man. gotta fly as a team. : )
Well if it helps I will ull out my AARP card, well it’s not mine. It’s my dads but we have the same name.
oh sure…its not yours 😉 😉
You want a mensa card.. I can get ya a mensa card, believe me. There are ways, Dude…
Classic. Can you get it by 3pm?
Laminated!
Damnit Walter, this has nothing to do with Nam man!!
I agree that Riley’s biggest impediment to success here may be Bob. Bob wanted to move away from up-tempo because of concerns about keeping defense off the field. I’m just not convinced that he is going to let Riley operate at the pace that he has been operating, which in my opinion is part of what has contributed to his success.
This is a real tangible topic to bring up. Totally worth mentioning, Waters, and law. I noted something to this effect about Venables under the management of Dabo Swinney.
Let it go…
You are from the wrong generation! I believe the song goes “Let it be ….”
As the father of two young girls… Unfortunately this came to mind first.
“the wrong generation?” lol..that’s funny…what’s really funny is “the wrong generation” is usually that generation directly following “the right generation” or at least no more than twice removed…lol
I think that Heupel was more of a Wilsonian in his system. I also think that the Air Raid term has taken on a new meaning for us, rather than looking at Riley, looking back at Stoops and Bedenbaugh, and synthesizing strengths. A powerful run game, and a play-caller who creates space for players, and makes it possible for players to run free, and do it with zeal, and fun. I think Bob rejected a direction. And he has found a new direction, culturally, and schematically.
Legitimate question…
Leach wanted to pass even more than he did in ’99, Bob said no he wanted more balance.
Leach said bye and Bob said don’t let the door hit ya’ where the Good Lord split ya’.
Eas
I thought Leach left because of HC position at Texas Tech.
Mangino replaced Leach and installed more of a run game per BS.
We won the NC because of defense. MS defense shut down FSU.
Better defenses were adjusting to the Leach offense and BS wanted more run game to counter the better defenses.
We now return to Leach with more run game.
I support Riley and his offense!
Will BS?
My take is that SF rejected BS and so he returned to Leach offense.
Leach did take the Tech job, that doesn’t alter the fact that Bob was not happy with an unbalanced attack and Leach wanted to throw it even more. Leach left and Bob held the door for him.
I don’t have any reason to believe Frost turned the job down, don’t even know if he was asked.
I have faith that Bob knows who he hired and why, and from what I’ve seen I don’t see that Riley’s offense looks like Leach’s.
I support Riley as OC,
I hope BS lets him run his offense without interference.
Unlike you, I have no reason to believe otherwise. He stated it clearly 6 days before Riley was hired.
http://espn.go.com/blog/colleges/oklahoma/
Yeah I know maybe everyone isn’t fired up about it…frost didn’t build oregon’s offense…and big names don’t always work out…this young man can flat out coach! Smokes mich st in bowl game as 24-25 year old then goes to ECU as a 26 year old and proceeds to set passing records 5 years in a row as well as 3 years total offense records…I live and scarolina and watched a lot of their games while thinking they can pass the ball and get open with way less talented people than we have…why can’t we? I don’t buy into the Tillman theory that we have a talent deficit…if we do than why are we always hanging around top 15 classes? And from what I’ve read on here the brainiacs are usually pretty high on who we grab…off my soap box now and ready for some football oh…….and some defensive coaching changes!
I think sometimes we get better athletes, but not better football players. There’s a difference.
I agree with that statement as well but that’s not what Tillman is saying…one thing that def sticks out to me is a lack of bringing the wood on defense…our backers and safeties can be in position to make a play and get drug around for 3-4 yards after impact
the way you put this makes me wanna be a fly on the wall in the meeting rooms for d film and stuff. if you coach em up and they can think for themselves at all, then they should be chomping at the bit to hit someone and make em not wanna do whatever they just did ever again. when you’re coached up right, natural ability takes over and over thinking or whatever flies out the window and you just snot bubble everybody
That’s actually my biggest complaint against Mikey. All I ever see him do is yell, not teach. (I’ve been to a few practices, flame on) He’s a little too old school.
yelling…i love yelling. every coach i had from little league to the big leagues yelled. its in the heat of battle and whatnot and emotions and tempers are all over the charts. its practice where you get the teaching. practice how you play cause you play how you practice. teach em up in practice and let their abilities flow in game time and yell at em when they screw up. i’m old school too tho. may not reach kids nowadays. i don’t know
That’s what I mean. In practice. A lot of yelling. Not much teaching. From Mike I mean. Monty is the opposite.
haha. yeah if all you’re doing is yelling even in practice guys will eventually shut you out. you have to teach and show em what you’re telling em will work or “he gone”
Yessir!!! I’d love to see some Roy Williams hitting from db’s and a t Marshall attitude in our backers
I was just making a statement. I agree with you totally.
Lol we’re on the same page I think that’s what we’re seeing in some of our defensive players
Mr. Pedersen. Good read.
Thank you hopefully it’s a non fiction novel
I agree with everything except the talent deficiency. That said, I think we are on our way to fixing that issue. Hopefully we can start moving our classes into the top 10.
What I mean is we’re not void of talent…I don’t even think Baylor was as talented across the board even though they was at key positions…we def had more talent than k state and tcu oh….and way more than ecu
Just curious, where in sc do you live? I live there as well.
Columbia where are you?
Laurens.
So I guess a FrostCumbie scenario would have been out of the question as well if he’s not interested in a move as a non play caller….or would Frost be open to just Co OC…thought he would be the main feature if he were brought in
I can’t imagine Frost is remotely interested in having a Co- in front of his name.
maybe at OU he’d take exception because if you think about it…if he were to come here and we knock it out of the park next year then he’d get a good look at HC at a bigger school
No one wants a Co- in front of their name.
maybe at OU they’d take exception
There’s a coach at A&M and a coach at Indiana who had co’s in front of their name at the same time at OU. Gotta be a selling point. Mangino and Leach were Co’s too if I remember correctly.
So wait are we done? Its only 4 o’clock folks.. I’ve still got an hour and a half!!
Maybe Nebraska will name Norm Chow their OC just for s&gs.
Regarding Riley’s move away from the air raid offense at ECU: “In perhaps the most effective display of offensive balance, ECU was the only FBS program to have a 4,000-yard passer (Shane Carden), a 1,000-yard receiver (Justin Hardy) and a 1,000-yard rusher (Vintavious Cooper).”
http://eastcarolina.247sports.com/Article/The-evolution-of-Lincoln-Riley-and-ECUs-offense-30594094
I think it was perfectly said on here (yesterday?) that the fact that the entire ECU fan base is very upset and worried is a good sign. They don’t want him to go
I think Landthieves was also saying that Texas fans wanted Riley and aren’t happy that OU’s hiring him.
And you know UT fans know best, just ask ’em.
As long as that Lincoln don’t park this Cadillac, I’m fine. http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/normantranscript.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/d9/0d9eb6ac-3396-11e4-b988-0019bb2963f4/54075a5d70b0e.image.jpg?resize=760%2C505
Riley’s offense from 2013 looks like ours. http://youtu.be/G5-yQ_6aQeQ
That kid’s got an odd throwing motion. Also, that’s A LOT of passing.
Re-watched the ECU/Florida game…ECU was far from de-void of talent. Especially that WR Hardy, he will play in the NFL. Interesting strategy deployed, but it still appeared that when they really needed 1st downs (regardless of down and distance)…they went to the pass or QB run….but then again they did have Hardy (pretty even distribution of the ball in the pass game by the way)…and we have really really good backs…so lets see how it goes. I think with Gundy and Bedenbaugh here, there will still be a heavy influence on the run game. Currently our linemen train differently than guys in an up tempo heavy pass offense (thanks to Bedenbaugh)…What I liked was the route tree combos used against zone defenses (looked like kind of what Baylor does)….going to be interesting to see what develops from these two philosophies…hopefully it means we can counter whatever the defense does and whatever defense takes away..the alternative is just as lethal..
No news. Maybe Scott is coming.
No news…………..of what?
I absolutely hate it when Dean’s right…
I wouldn’t hate it if he was right about Mike to LSU
Would love that.
Welcome aboard, young man! I hope you afford us many yards, points, and championships! BOOMER!
SOONER!, let’s hope he can take our tools and build something BIG.
Great hire. Sorry folks but recruiting wins in CFB. This guy brings it all.
I really like this hire!!Riley will have a lot of motion in his sets to keep LB’s & DB’s guessing .Should be a gold mine for OU’s running backs.
We filled a spot now will there be a “co” or just a WR coach and who would be the most likely to take that job working under a 31 yr. old?
How about Todd Helton.
Hope all our eggs are not in one basket.
Me and you both. If Cumbie turned it down because of the Riley hire, are we likely to land someone better than Norvel?
Makes you wonder. Oh….well as long as the boosters open up the check books now everything should be just fine.
If Cumbie turned it down because of another hire, would we really want him?
Can’t really say based on that. We have no idea what the pitch was to the candidates. If he was led to believe it would be his show, why would he want to come in as the second guy?
So are Helton and candle real possibilities for the receivers coach?
We should find out soon, can’t imagine they want to leave this ticket open with recruiting about to kick off again.
Can I ask a dumb question? I don’t know if this has been asked before, but didn’t we just have an issue with a OC/QB Coach combo? JH was fired because he couldn’t do both. When he was just a position coach, he was good. But when he started calling plays, all the sudden it looked as though he forgot how to coach QB’s. Landry went to a QB guru to get coaching (doesn’t say much about his ability to coach QB’s.) Why would Bob go and do it again? Maybe you guys who know more football than me can explain why this is such a good hire.
I would say the main reason is bc Riley has been the OC/QB coach at ECU and has demonstrated the ability to do both jobs at the same time. He got great production from Shane Carden this year at qb, while coordinating the 5th best offense in the country. I personally think it’s a great hire, but I guess we will wait and see. I’m really more interested to see what changes are made on the other side of the ball.
Some people can’t multi task
Look at what Riley did with Shane Carden and Dominique Davis while simultaneously calling plays, though. Heupel couldn’t do it, but the new hire has proven that he’s more than capable, I think.
Ohio State’s OC is also the QB coach…and they’ve done ok with their 3rd string QB, or so some say…
I think stoops reached out to Scott Frost and was told that Scott only wanted a HC gig. Bob had already chosen what kind of offense he wanted to run and went with the best option. If we were not going to get Frost I believe Riley is far better than the others we interviewed if for no other reason than experience calling plays. I am very excited about this hire.
Just saw Scott Frost walk across the screen coaching the Oregon players. A tear just left my eye [reaches toward the TV yearning…]
Dang L’C…lol
I just heard Al Ali Bobba Eschbac say that JH was the scapegoat that is why he got fired!! Al is so far out of touch & I must be too, for even tuning in to his show!!
Get out now, those munchkin’s are mean little suckers!
Al mainly just echoes Trabor and Tramel. One week he didn’t like Heupel, the next week he’s a good coordinator who was the scapegoat.
31? God I feel old.
I have a great feeling that he’s going to land some huge recruits in the not so far off future…
Wondering how many, if any, of his EC recruits are possibilities?
Now there’s an intriguing thought. We’d have to see if the recruits he was bringing to ECU can play with the athletes of the big 12, however.
https://rivals.yahoo.com/eastcarolina/football/recruiting/commitments/
I’d take the local QB and the defensive end that runs a 4.7
getting the feeling he’ll/we’ll be attracting guys with a few more stars following their names
I’ll bet he’s slobbering looking at our target list.
especially when those targets start following you on Twitter
After seeing the image from Twitter… looks like a possible jackpot to me!
If anything, If he can recruit, he will be able to bring in the top athletes to OU. Time will tell how good of a recruiter he is. Just like EasTex said about his connections in Texas. We need to get back into those schools down there and make a immediate impact.
Couldn’t agree more with refocusing on Texas.
We have to stick with our bread and butter to be very successful and get those kids that know what OU is about and the hard work that goes into a program. It has been proven over the years. Blood, sweat and tears go into a program not pre-Madonna’s.
If I had it my way, I’d fill the roster with 85 Aaron ripkowskis; unfortunately, there’s only one and he graduated…
I’m wondering how his connections with Texas high school coaches are.
Did you see the post about Kyler Murray being one of the first to follow him (Riley) on Twitter after it was made official?
Indeed I did.
Betting being from Muleshoe and spending some time in Lubbock under The Pirate, he’s made some acquaintances and got some names.
I’m sure he has and probably knows the guys that coordinate the 7on7 state tournament.
Refresh page and look up top
Have you seen any twitter comments made by any recruits in relation to the hire?
check the above image for some idea
I seen that. I was wondering if anyone has actually said anything.
dunno, sorry
That’ll do!
As long as he can bring in and coach up some skill guys, QBs and WRs and Gundy can keep bringing in top RBs…all is well.
Been out of pocket a couple days. What’d I miss?
https://twitter.com/mikeytyler08/status/554748171726094336/photo/1
Nice as gravy on rice.
Whoa…..that’s tough to beat 😉
Does this mean Riley is following them? Or that they are following Riley?
Yes to the second question.
actually yes to the first question lol
Hope this cat isn’t a JH 2!
nah, that guy was a one-of-a-kind
I have to say, there’s something about bringing on a new guy that makes me sad about Heupel. He has been such a part of the OU family, and I just really wish it would have worked out. I really hope he succeeds wherever he ends up.
Totally agree!
Know what you mean. I have been as hard on JH as anyone but he’ll always be a Sooner to me. I really have no doubt he’ll get it together.
I have also been very critical of JH this year. I guess there’s something about bringing in his replacement that has caused the reality of the situation to finally set in for me. Our last qb to take us to the promised land, and a guy who clearly loved this team and this university. One of Sooner Nation’s sons really. Good luck Josh….and Godspeed.
I share your sentiment.
Josh is and always has been one of the good guys.
I kind of agree with you, but I think it is better for JH to move on also. He needs to be outside the OU system to learn.
I am sure he will land on his feet, he is too good a coach not to.
If I am Baker Mayfield, I am stoked that Lincoln Riley is coming to Norman. This should be an interesting spring on the OU practice fields. BOOMER!!
SOONER!!
Hopefully the fact that Riley’s offense also boasted the WR that broke RB’s receptions record gets the attention of guys like Lodge and Jefferson as well. With the stable of backs that OU has we will still see a steady run game as well. Can’t wait to see who the WR coach is that OU brings in.
I’m excited for Riley and a new offensive direction!
Welcome to the family Coach Riley (one of my son’s is named Lincoln…).
BOOMER!!!!!!!!
My son’s name is Lincoln. Lol
Hope it’s not the same kid.
will the brainiacs be bringing us a big profile of this guy?
So who will coach WR’s or who do you want to coach WR’s.
Would love to see Helton or candle coach wr
DGB should have stayed.
not sure he’s officially declared
Will Donnie Kirkpatrick come with Riley?
Watched the ECU vs VT game. It was a pure Leach type of shotgun spread offense. For better or worse that’s probably what we’re going to see at OU. I have a feeling that people are going to love the high flying big scores, but they’re going to be howling about the absence of a power run game in losses. Hopefully with the talent he has at RB now, he’ll be able to make a nice mesh of the two styles.
I think we see more balance, especially early with our personnel. More worried about the long-term when he recruits player to fit into the spread. I don’t see why an offense can’t be a power run and then spread the field when it needs to.
You mean like telegraphing what we are doing as in since Mangino was here as OC?
I hope we run a scheme and not just another bunch of plays. That has been our problem for years.
R.E.L.A.X. People are killing me with this jumping to conclusions.
I hope we learned from the past when our red zone O would stall on us. I think we will look like a mix of what we our now in our run game and what TCU is running. I hope we put that “THE OSU” counter play in our run game that worked so well last night