Postgame Discussion Thread
Posted on: October 11, 2014
Postgame Discussion Thread
Posted on: October 11, 2014
Postgame Discussion Thread
Posted on: October 11, 2014
The Football Brainiacs
University of Oklahoma Edition
Postgame Discussion Thread
Posted on: October 11, 2014
OU 2024 Schedule
- Aug 31st vs Temple
- Sep 7th vs Houston
- Sep 14th vs Tulane
- Sep 21st vs Tennessee
- Sep 28th @ Auburn
- Oct 12th vs Texas
- Oct 19th vs South Carolina
- Oct 26th @ Ole Miss
- Nov 2nd vs Maine
- Nov 9th @ Missouri
- Nov 23rd vs Alabama
- Nov 30th @ LSU
385 Comments
Game plan is the same from week to week no matter who the opponent is. I think Josh just uses a lot of scripted plays. It’s the only thing I can think of that explains what I see week in and week out.
Josh must go. Scripted plays would explain a few things for sure.
Yeah, is he sending the script to the DC of the other team? Makes me wonder.
Also maybe big game bob can leave to
Lay off the booze…
I don’t drink first i take the bible serious second you can have big game bob i will take barry switzer any day over big game bob
You don’t drink because you take the Bible serious? Did you know TCU and Baylor are playing? See if Switzer is coaching for them.
Clint, the Bible clearly says that Switzer is fourth in command. God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Switzer. I’ll be seeing you tomorrow in Sunday school…
I’ll be there, but please don’t check my bible to make sure it doesn’t contain extra booze. It doesn’t. I promise.
LOL. As long as you share…remember the golden rule…
Not gonna happen. OU did win the game, but something has to change in regards to the offensive playcalling.
OU converted 1 third down in the game. That is a crazy stat considering the Sooners won the game. Someone looking at the basic stats of the game would have been led to believe that Texas won this game handily.
one vote for that being crazy.
Get lost with that.
i think we’d rather you just leave. thanks in advance
Plays the percentages based on down/distance instead of playing to our strengths vs the weaknesses of our opponents? Sounds possible.
Did anyone catch up with Reid? I think it was a good sign he was another ou game but that was a poor performance if we wanted to close some recruits or make up a bunch of ground for a kids signature.
Although the safety play was horrible so he’s got to think he can come in and compete for a starting job.
Well if he saw the safety play today he has to feel better about possibly committing to OU.
According to his twitter he was hanging out with pj mbanasor and Malik jefferson I’m sure pj was working them
There’s been a different team since the bye week wearing crimson.
Sign the fire the Josh P. https://www.change.org/p/joseph-castiglione-fire-josh-heupel-2?recruiter=162344919&utm_campaign=mailto_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
Dumb, and very osu-like.
If I can watch TV and predict where we’re going with the ball most plays, imagine how easy it must be for someone getting paid to do that.
OU will need to play better than they did today to beat KSU. They have a decent defense and their offense is way better than UT’s, IMO.
If we play like we did today, we’ll lose at least two more games. It’s a total team issue too. 29 yards in the first half, and 1 first down the entire game is putrid. Knight’s inability to see(and hit) the wide open receiver running free through the secondary is hard to watch. The defense we all thought was reminiscent of the early 2K’s defenses has hardly looked the part. It also doesn’t appear as if the coaching staff is doing a real good job of putting their players in a position to succeed, as evidenced by them being too scared to turn TK loose with his legs.
Sounds exactly like the post game comments from last week…it’s really depressing to see the same problems week in and week out. Sounds like the job isn’t getting done. On the bright side, we didn’t waste our time outs…
Why in the heck OU doesn’t play press coverage on the outside receivers all the time, especially against a green OL and QB is beyond me. Do good on first down, then play off, they get 6 or 7 yards and now have a manageable 3rd down. Time and again they would dial this up. Gets frustrating to watch.
It’s a strange year when the two best teams in the Big 12 are TCU and Baylor
And NDA could get upset at home by UNC who hasn’t won a game in forever
It is increasingly clear Heupel is not the answer at OC. Given the total lack of quality QB’s on campus and ready to play a person has to start wondering just exactly why he is on staff. Idiotic to recruit dual-threat guys back there and try to turn them into Sam Bradford. He sees the game as a passer, which is fine I guess, but not when the QB is dual threat and the O is supposedly designed as a run-first type of offense.
Bob has to know. The reporter asked him after the game what the problem with the offense was…he said it was mental errors and not executing. It gets exhausting hearing him stick up for Heuple over the kids. Not saying that they did their job, but, call out the fat guy in the booth too, Bob…
It tough to hear him indirectly throw the kids under the bus like that. Coaches need to put the kids in the best position possible to succeed. When the entire stadium and viewing audience knows what is coming it isn’t logical to put the blame on the kids when it fails. Most of the fist half was give to Perine between the tackles, or drop straight back and throw. That’s not where Trevor is most successful. We need to bring in and OC with a new approach, not the next guy in line on the current coaching staff. And we should just leave Heupel in the Dal/Ft Woth metroplex and maybe he can catch on with SMU, or a high school down there.
^ This EXACTLY!!!!
Chuck Long’s available, isn’t he?
You mean Heupel and Long aren’t the same person? Lol
Heupel has 3 main jobs. 1) recruit talented Qb’s. 2) develop Qb’s. 3) call plays the Qb can successfully execute. No evidence that he’s done any of them.
Last year, when TK stumbled, we put in Bell who saved the day ( especially vs oSu). This year, apparently there is no fall back, no person they have any confidence in.
I’d be very much surprised if we don’t lose another game or two.
And the fact that they don’t have confidence in another qb should speak to Heuple’s failures as well.
JD Runnels was defending him on twitter last night & seemed to lay a lot on the defense which was on the field most of the night.
When your offense has 29 total yards in the first half, your defense will be on the field a lot. The defense played well, the offense looked like garbage, especially in the first half. The offense needs to get their crap together, speaking primarily about the coaches but there were some errors from the players as well.
Also, is it just me or does Trevor Knight seem to play better when we go into our hurry up mode?
Heupel needs to try more in game adjustment earlier possibly Texas was open for Misdirection all day …and can we at least try the deep ball a few times a game
Why would they defend misdirection when we didn’t run a single misdirection play against TCU.
Obviously Heupel is a slow thinker and I imagine gets rattled when he is under the gun. I said it then and I’ll say it now, Bob Stoops has hurt his program by hiring an unproven, inexperienced OC. He should have hired the best money could buy.
Uninspired, remember when the fat man ran the offense (Mangino) 1st down was always run up the middle. I believe it is time for a change.
What makes you think JH is a slow thinker? I don’t understand the premises that he is not a good play-caller.
No more offseason hype. No more nicknames. No more NFL comparisons. Not until this team actually shows up and plays.
Unfortunately, I think they have been…I think this is the team we have this season. We should get used to it, because nothing is going to change for awhile. If Stoops does get rid of Heuple, it won’t be until after the season.
And the question is who do you replace him with because if you’re plan is to hire within, then why are these guys not speaking up in team meetings saying this pistol crap isn’t working.
I bet bedenbaugh and norvell would work well together. Bedenbaugh would line us up under center and give our backs a better opportunity to find space.
I’d be okay with Chuck Long coming back. But it would probably just be Norvelle getting the promotion. I’m not sure I like that idea, either.
With the lack of development at wr I would have to agree. I guess we would have to ask broyles what kind of impact norvell had on him, but I’m not sure how many years they were here together maybe 2 max?
I hate to say it, but I’ve been worried about the WR progression for some time as well. The biggest part of our last few major contributors have been transfers: Brown, Saunders, Bester. I just worry that the real talent that OU has recruited (and they have recruited some real talent) will be wasted.
Didn’t we used to call him “third and long”?
LOL. One thing we DIDN’T call him was FUCL
I’ve never been so upset about a win.
And by “upset”, I mean sulking around the house and eating Oreos by the sleeve.
LAWL! I’ve cracked open the vodka…now EVERYThiNG looks appetizing!!!
Heupel is married to Boren’s daughter. I doubt he will ever get fired.
Damn…forgot about that…maybe Stoops can pull a Venebles move and push him towards a “promotion” at another school…SMU, anyone?
Heupel is NOT married to Borens daughter!!!! Josh’s sister is married to Borens son! If your gonna throw that out there at least get it right.
What a mess! Either way, dude’s connected!
Amen jt
OT but TCU is up on Baylor by 2TD. If they hold on to this one, you’d have to think they were the new favorites to get the Big 12’s playoff spot.
Well Baylor with a quick strike. I just can’t believe this tcu team is THAT good.
They look MUCH better than I ever would have admitted a couple weeks ago.
TRUE but come on is this team as good as the 2011 cowboys? Because they probably have less talent than that team had. And another bomb
Their “lesser” talent is making some pretty damn impressive plays. It’s hard to watch and wonder why our players can’t rip people like that.
I’ve been saying that for years. I see teams every week making offense look simple yet we make it look so damn difficult.
Exactly.
Yes it’s all about the bad coaching on this team
Can they stop TCU though? TCU has already put up 44 through the first 3 quarters.
I would say no. Looks a lot like the fiesta bowl last year.
After watching this debacle, I’m about ready to write this season off.
Not yet. We’ve played good halves of football this year at times. We can still put it all together for one game. If TCU wins today though, and it looks like they will, then we’re probably out of the playoff hunt.
bye
The first half was the worst offensive performance By any Sooner team I’ve ever witnessed in my 60 years as a Sooner fan. Texas possessed the ball for 22.5 minutes of the 30. OU had 3 yards passing and -3 yards rushing. Our defense was tired and the offense was to blame.
Heupel called one good series, culminating in a TD toss to Sterling.
The double reverse was simply a stupid play.
The defense played a similar plan to last week. They made Swoopes look better than he is. He should never pass for 334 yards against OU.
Ross won the game with his 91 yard kickoff TD. He bailed out our coaches.
Young isn’t right for the slot.
I don’t understand why they don’t split Ross out and send him deep. He has good hands and no one could stay with him. Beats the hell out of what we’re doing in the pass game now.
I really wonder where D Woods is, I thought he will come of age this year. But, so far, he hasn’t had one significant snap. KJ is dropping too many for a D1 receiver.
Hard to feel “too bad” about the OU loss to TCU after watching them hand it to Baylor, in Waco. That is why it is better to let the season play out before putting the team, coaches, and entire program on blast.
There is no doubt OU isn’t playing particularly well on either side of the ball. Our offense isn’t playing well at all, and neither is our QB. Play calling is possibly suspect.
All that said, there is time for OU to turn things around and still have a very good season. We’ve played well at times. The O and Knight have played well at times. We should get Ford back pretty soon. Some games at home. I just think it’s ridiculous those of you that are predicting several more losses this season. I’d be pretty surprised if we lost more than one other game the rest of the regular season.
Parity is here. You see it more and more every season. There is probably very little difference in OU/Baylor/TCU/KSU. Look at the SEC. The two best teams might be the two Mississippi schools. LSU is brutal. Florida is brutal. Yet OU is on track for another 10 win season most likely. Consistently. Sure, I love NC’s too, but those are tough to win when you have brutal seasons every now and again. We aren’t done transitioning from the program we were 3-4 years ago, when we needed to make changes. QB play is EVERYTHING in college, and we may not have a guy that is capable of playing at the level we need our QB to play at, week in and week out.
very level headed and very well put. i don’t know if some of these guys are trolls or are serious but these same yahoos will be the ones, if/when we beat baylor, that will jump back on the bandwagon. rivalry games are funny. look at last year. they are texas. they will have talent. i’d rather win every game like this than lose to learn my lessons
Baylor came back to win.
Doesn’t really change my post/message much.
Baylor bounced back from a Pick 6, we didn’t. I think you are pretty optimistic if you think we can’t lose more than 1 game. An offense that gets no yards in an entire half has nothing to do with parity.
No regurgitation of what most have already brought up. Great teams find ways to pull out wins, ugly or not. Perhaps we erroneously overestimated the strength of our team, or underestimated the potency of the B12…I can forgive a loss(es). What I cannot forgive is the inability to adjust game play to suit/ account for what the opponent gives you. Coaches are paid well to put players in positions to succeed
GAWD, TCU looks SO GOOD right now…
TCU up by 21
Looks like they’re the team we thought OU had…
Well you can stick a fork in Baylor. This is over. We found baylors weakness they can’t out score teams that put up 50+
This makes Shawn Oakman’s comments on gameday hilariously ironic…
So, TCU for the natty? lol Damn, are they THAT good?
They sure look just as good as anyone else, imho.
They won’t play this well all season. Easy to play well for a couple of weeks, as the underdog. Entirely different to do it as a top 5 team, with a target on your back, for the rest of the season. They do have a favorable schedule, so we’ll see. But they aren’t going to roll people the rest of the season. I’d bet on at least one loss.
They will drop a game at some point and after the beating they’re putting on Baylor, I’m glad it won’t be to Baylor.
However osu won’t be a good loss either if they let Kansas keep hanging around.
Have they played ISU yet? Look for the upset if there, lol.
Who is saying that?
Oh, just me lol! I was just being sarcastic..
TCU a uses a lot of different weapons. Something OU should learn to do
Tcu is going to win there goes any chance for the playoff tcu willwin the big12
Hey, they can still fall flat. Everyone can. They better keep playing lights out, thats for sure..
Don’t get ahead of yourself. If TCU wins out, sure. But what if they lose? I could see OU jumping them IF we win out, and if they lose late, or to a lesser opponent. OU’s OOC schedule would help us jump TCU in the voting, I’d think, if we both had one loss.
You must feel really great about ou winning out.
Not really. But if OU doesn’t win out, it doesn’t matter what TCU does tonight.
I don’t think OU will lose more than 1 other regular season game though. Happens every time OU loses or plays bad. A group of the fans write off the season, predict doom and gloom, and predict several other OU losses. Seldom happens. We will play better ball at some point this season. Count on that.
You’re right I’m just not confident in the offense right now. But next week could change things. We have to remember it’s been a month since we had a home game.
The thing is though, the defense lost us the TCU game, not the O (no matter who we’re playing, 31 points should be enough). We’ve seen our O do it, and we’ve seen our D do it, they just haven’t both done it in a big game. I have faith they can though.
Well yeah 31 points should win a game vs tcu but the defense set the offense up twice with a short field. So yeah the defense put them in a bind but they did come thru late
We won’t likely claim any kind of championship this year but hopefully finish good enough to land one of the better bowl games.
I do it every year…I allow myself to buy into the hype that is generated around the team, even if I tell myself that I’m not going to…and every year, I feel like I’ve been let down. Sure, last season ended well, but it seems like we still have some of the same old problems that aren’t getting fixed.
I’m done giving in to the hype until we get a new o-co
I’m with ya. Or at least that’s what I tell myself…
You mean, you’re done giving in to the “Heup,” dont you? ha!
LOL
LAWL
Toats: what you’re talking about has been going on since 2001 when we lost to les miles’ unranked osu team in Norman to finish the regular season. Little brother finished the season 4-7. I think we were headed to the big12 cg with hopes of going to the bcs cg after that. OU was ranked #4 and 10-1 at game time. Serious let down …. It is a very reasonable feeling to have, go back and look at the yearly record, it gets worse. I call 2007 “the year of embarrassing losses.” To be an ou fan with bob at the helm requires a dose of reality: bob averages a little over one embarrassing/wtf/etc game a season. TCU is a good team, so that loss doesn’t count … So he’s due … According to the numbers.
GAWD, don’t tell me that there’s another wtf loss in store…now I’m worried about taco tech…again!!!!
Well win out and it could be a big 12 vs sec final 4. I don’t think fsu will go undefeated nor will notre dame. So with every team having one loss it’s possible. I just can’t see a route where ou wins out unless heupel figures things out.
I agree with this
Yes and we will win against a team that does’t want to be there and then we will hear big game bob talk about how next season will be the year then he will joke in other big game sorry i am not drinkinf the cool aid any more where have you gone barry switzer we miss you
No way you are an OU fan. Get lost.
Doesn’t even use proper troll technique.
Sorry been a sooner fan since the mid”s70 when we where winning national championship’s not playing in meanless bowl game if you can’t see you are not a true sooner fan sorry barry won his championship’s he didn’t lose three national championship’s in a row the only coach to do so in ncca history sorry i am true to the sooner’s if you can’t see that you don’t understand what this program is about
Well said @dudley04:disqus
Just stop. College football today is nothing like college football in the 70’s. I’ll leave it at that. But anybody that suggests running Stoops off is a troll, IMO.
yeah dudley and nd52 need to amscray
I know it could hurt us down the road, but I would LOVE KU to pull an upset today. 🙂
Would be soo bad ass (and scary) to see Baylor come down with two more TD’s and send this thing to OT!
its the Big12 TCU still has o face some pretty good teams KSU..WVU..who knows maybe even theBongs may beat them ..but hell we have to win our games for this to even be a convo
Anyone else feeling good about TCU putting more on baylor than they did on OU?
Kind of. Then I realize we don’t have the wide receivers to keep up with Baylor.
With Trevor Knight struggling so badly it really doesn’t matter how other teams are playing.
Yup. :/
It’s like wondering what other people are gonna wear to your neighborhood’s annual christmas party when you can barely afford to put food on the table.
You got much more important things to worry about.
That is rude shelby is a sooner fan and has the right to say wherever
Dude…are you just looking for an argument or something? I don’t understand what’s so “rude” about what was written above…
What was rude @dudley04:disqus?
Baylor within 7.
And ball back with 5:47 to go..
Wow! Baylor td. Should be tied with extra point..
Still over 4 min left..
……aub is goin’ down………miss st in final 4?
Nah there will not be any undefeated teams in the sec. And maybe just one with only one loss
the winner of the sec will get in regardless
I can’t believe I’m seeing Kansas driving to tie the game against LosuR.
Never mind, they threw a pick.
I can. Osu sucks
Heupel is beyond bad. Please explain how or why in the hell he is still calling plays??? How many games does he have to butcher before someone else ANYONE ELSE is given an opportunity to call plays. heupel is the most incompetent OC in Division 1 football. He was a 16 yr old kid that was handed the keys to a Ferrari and he has no clue what he is doing.
Ok that was offensively bad football, so I’m going to be positive, I liked the fact we didn’t throw the fade as much, we didn’t burn time outs like we were playing basketball, our coaches looked better organized than tu’s, we didn’t throw in int!! Or a pick6!!! No sacks!! And our qb didn’t get a WR lit-up..
Why U gotta come in here all positive and all? 🙂
I think TCU thought game was over….
Baylol ties it up!
Didn’t OU and WVU have a game like this once?
I’m glad we get Baylor at home.
Geeze, I think we need to hire TCU’s QB coach. Boykin looks like a real QB.
All big 12 qb’s look better
Not ALL…Knight is looking the same as he did during the early part of the season last year. I’m starting to question Heuple’s QB coaching as well as his play calling.
I think Josh has done OK with his QB’s, but I think he needs to be on the sideline with them and let someone else run the offense.
I would have said that with Jones’ improvement within his first season as the starter, but I have not been impressed with anything he has done since then. He’s gonna have to prove it to me…
It seems like things started down hill as soon as he moved to the booth. I also think he has to spend so much time now studying the next opponent that the QB’s aren’t being developed throughout the season.
I could see that, and I think it’s probably true. However, I can’t get over the fact that there hasn’t been any jump in improvement over the offseason when there is no film to watch. This is why I start to question his QB coaching skills.
Yes JH isn’t the answer at either jobs, I think you could throw in recruiter as well. But TK has regressed in his third yr and I’m seeing other qb’s look better.
@disqus_p831slL6fz:disqus
“Starting to”? Lol! Better late than never I guess!
Well, the “starting to” part was more aimed at his qb coaching skills…but I guess I’ve been doing that since Landry Jones as well…
If we are off offensively couple of games, we just table our offensive schemes, our QB and revamp everything? I watched same plays/play calls against LTech, Tenn and Texas, we executed them against those two but not against Texas. Like Stoops says, it is about executing. If you can against LaTech, why not against Texas? You would think since they have done this before, they will do it now. Again, the double reverse has worked all the time, JH called it again today but we executed so poorly that we lost a bunch of yards. Again what did JH do wrong there?
In the statement above, I was mainly referring to qb progression. Knight hasn’t seemed to progress at all. The Alabama game was amazing, but he has been mediocre at best this season. I’m sure most of it has to do with play calling in that Heuple is not putting him in position to make the plays that he was making last season. It was more his legs that impressed everyone during Iowa State and K State last season. His arm was looking decent, but it was more than likely because defenses had to respect the fact that he would take off on them. He is being kept in the pocket more this season, and it’s baffling. Because of this, his short comings start to glare. It’s not Trevor’s fault. He can only do what he is allowed to do. When poor technique and poor play calling are combined, it’s impossible for the kid to succeed. It is Heuple’s fault. I don’t know how else to look at it…
Look I understand that Heupel deserves some criticism for the ineptitude of the offense. I am not dissolving him of all the blames. But, what I am not buying is this business with poor play calling. We all understand that these coaches see these players play every single snap (practice/preseason blah blah), do you really think you/I will have a better feel of what they should do with TK than them? Even if Heupel is as dumb as you guys make him out to be, Stoops, one of the best defensive minds out there, can’t see it while you and I can. It is preposterous.
All you guys want to point out the Sugar bowl, TK was lights out throwing the ball, so we all know that he has talent. So, the coaches want to develop that. But, the other thing to consider is the overhaul in the our personnel this year (new RBs, TE, WRs not named Shep). You can throw all the balls in 7on7s perfectly but in a game scenario things need to come together between those 11 guys to make an offense click.
Look, at the end of the day, I think football is simple, find favorable numbers, call plays and execute them better than the D. I don’t have a problem with the first two but we are not doing the third part really well right now. If you just want to point out people who are not doing their jobs, let me point out Norvell, Gundy, since the WRs are dropping more than they are catching, the rbs ducking through wrong holes etc. But unless Norvell himself goes and catches passes or Gundy takes the ball and runs, all they can do is help the kids in the film room. We will get better, since we are so very young in the skill position, but we will have some growing pains. Through all those growing pains, we still are 5-1, so I have full trust in this coaching staff that they are doing the best jobs out there.
Notice the game management. 1:17 left, both teams with all three timeouts! Well, before that first one by TCU..
Lol, then TCU burns two right when i say that. But at least its the end..
I think OU can beat Baylor, I’m rooting for Baylor!
….drinking early?
We held a very good TCU to way less. If we can get our offense rolling we can beat them.
think Patterson got too cocky with goin’ on 4th, at least with the play called
If Baylor wins, I would like to take back 3 or 4 comments I have made today. 🙂
LOL! The guy that co-hosts the Sooners show w/Dusty Dvorcek says that Baylor needed to win by 3 to make OU’s chances of winning the Big 12 better…
Def gives us a shot!
So you’re saying there’s a chance!
Wow. Go Baylor!
The absolute best result we could hope for…. Now, straighten out a few things and throttle Baylor at hm!!
The whole picture just changed for the better!
wow isaiah austin with the 3 at the buzzer
We needed that!
the joke-not so much
the baylor win-yes
Thank you jesus baylor win’s
Baylor fans storm the field after beating TCU? This is what new money looks like…
Gotta love the new kids! They’re fun to watch.
Pretty much don’t want to play Baylor now.
Did I just watch a basketball game! No way football has 119 points in a game!
Kelvin Sampson won bball games at OU where the combined score wasn’t that high. lol
Baylor win certainly helps us. But, on the other hand, does anyone really think our secondary is gonna stop a machine like that?
Hell no
Double hell no.
As we’ve seen……crazy sh%t happens.
Baylers D isn’t as good as TCU and we are playing at home. Plus it’s a couple games away I’m sure mike can straighten some stuff by then
Pulling for Arky now, hate those dang bammers!
Looks like they heard you.
Clearly we have two big issues. On defense, we have trouble getting off the field, routinely giving up 3rd down conversions. On offense, we have no offense.
We don’t stop 3rd downs and we don’t convert them. Great formula to lose a lot of games to decent, not even good, teams.
What the hell has happened to LSU and Florida? All those highly rated recruits and talent no results. OU has got to step, would hate to go the direction the aforementioned teams are going.
Thought the same thing, not even on their propaganda machine’s lineup (ESPN)
I’m shocked TCU lost. They gotta big lead and then played not to lose rather than playing to slam the door shut. OU will have a big test against Baylor and better have a killer game plan on both sides of the ball
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Ha! Us with a killer game plan on offense? LMAO!
No screaming eagle……. And we thought JH was holding back some of the play book to spring on Texass….. The OU play book is a 3x 5 card!
Are you expecting them to replace Heupel by then?
If we can beat KSU on the road last year, and Bama in the Sugar Bowl last year, with JH and TK, we can beat Baylor at home this year.
Yessir and KSt and Okie Lite.
this place has turned into landthieves today
without all the f-bombs and memes
I don’t know anything about the land thieves but other then having beat Texass did you see anything that got yiu excited about this team? Both sides of the ball have regressed and it can’t be chalked up to injuries. I watched the replay of this game and kept thinking I was watching the 2013 Kansas game.
we won
I’m always excited to watch the Sooners, win or lose, but winning is more fun.
I have no illusions that I can coach better than OUr coaches or play better than OUr players.
Not exactly sure what that means, never been there.
just a bunch of sky is falling and “you’re stupid…nuhuh you are”
O000h, whining and beotching.
That’s why I bailed early on the game thread.
Hilarious
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which part? col. sanders kid, toby mcguire with zits or brokeback mtn?
My pregame post said I thought we might lose today, mainly due to the fact that we’d have trouble scoring, but if we won we’d win out. I stand behind that. We’ve seen the best defenses in the league.
The problem is that we haven’t seen the best offenses either
I’m a believer.
Bring on those Kansas Feral Kitties!
I think I can still hear Coach Norvell talking to KJ.
I have no doubt what I am about to type has been typed several times already but I want to get the full worth of my TFB subscription payment:
1. TK is not the man and the WR crew isn’t helping him much- except for Shepherd.
2. I think Heupel is talked about by the stoops brothers when he is not there. I think this was his “prove to me I shouldn’t can you too” year. I’d say its 50-50 JH is asked back next year.
3. Might be time to try Parker at safety full time and Ahmed Thomas goes to the nicklel.
4. Linebackers and secondary need to get on the same page.
5. D line gets tough again when Dimon and walker are back and fortify the rotation.
6. Oline needs to have a group gut check and needs to rediscover their desire to be dominant
7 Hunnicut will be the most missed player on this team next year.
8. Play Brooks. Motto used to be “play the Rb that’s hot” Perine isn’t hot now.
9 despite how bad OU looks right now I’d rather have these problems and 364 days of victory over Texass than to Be just swell,and lose the whorns.
Paging Keith Ford…Keith Ford, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Well just like knight isn’t being utilized right, I don’t think perine is being used right they need to use him like AD not demarco.
Glad the boys will be back at Owen Field next week.
Home cooking cures many ills.
I will say this…
WOW!
You ain’t never lied.
And technically it still comes up short. 4.2 really
are we talking weight or volume lol
Stones or litres?
Glad you brought it up…there’s no difference, really…
I couldn’t believe how schtoopid the announcing crew was for today’s game.
In OU’s first possession they ran a stretch play with Ross and the wHorn defense blew it up. The announcers were baffled, they had no idea what was going on and thought Knight had missed the hand off or something. Yet they always try to sound so authoritative and knowledgeable.
/sad
Heupel needs to be watching this tamu ole miss game. Ole miss is looking like an offensive juggernaut. OLE MISS!
Pretty impressive. Love watching Tamu lose, as well.
I just loved the camera shot of the tamu fans faces.
Like fine wine…
Like fine WHINE.
Classic!
And reading their lips.
The way the Miss. teams are playing, the Egg Bowl might be the real MNC before the selection committee’s beauty pageant.
I still think the sec will beat each other down. Georgia winning the sec will be a great thing for the rest of college football.
Since we won (as pitiful as it was), I can laugh at Tamu’s struggles. Yay.
The record book don’t care, it’s a W.
I watched the game today and a few thoughts are running through my mind. The zone read only works if the quarterback will pull the ball every now and then and run to keep the defense honest. Sometimes I think we need to just call a play and line up and run the play. The offense has the advantage they do just need to execute. I think we may be trying to out think everyone and fail to execute. I love the Sooners but something is broke.
Wonder what it would cost to get the Ol Miss OC? They know how to run the ZR.
It would probably cost firing Bob Stoops. Heupel aint goin nowhere
Sad to say, but unless some small school offers JH (and BS forces him to accept), OU is stuck with him. Boren won’t let them fire JH.
Why doesn’t he allow Norvell to call a game and see how that works out?
I think Boren will support Stoops, whatever decision he makes. But the way our offense is looking now I doubt anyone will offer Josh a HC job.
Stoops won’t even suggest that one of Boren’s relatives get sent down the road.
An ugly win is a win, but I bet we drop in the polls because it was so ugly. Bama, on the other hand, will rise.
OU will rise above TCU.
I think OU will be 9th or 10th
If OU can gain one spot each week, we’re in the FINAL FOUR!!!
With Auburn getting blasted it will be interesting to see how the top ten moves.
Bama snuck by Arky so they’re in the top 4 again I’m sure.
Yup….some things never change.
It was sickening listening to the announcers at the end of the Bama game. “They control their destiny.” “All they have to do is win the SEC West, since it’s the toughest division.” The implication seemed to be that they could lose the SEC championship game and still make the playoffs.
the one i loved was when, describing arkansas, they said they didn’t win a game last year and have yet to win one this year but this just shows how deep this division is. i get what they’re saying, they gave bama a game and whatnot but bama aint good this year and still won on the road. there’s always 2 sides to a coin, they look at the greatness of the sec(and won’t stop talking about it) whereas everybody else looks at the sec as being equal to everybody else
Probably the only fair thing to do is to cancel the SEC championship game, and just put 4 SEC teams into the playoff.
its only fair
Guarantee a lot of the “experts” at ESPiN are expecting the playoff to be something like Ole Miss, Miss St, Bama, and maybe FSU.
No, FSU will lose, and they will put Georgia in
Ok, I’ll grant you that one. They will continue to pretend that football is not even played in B12 country.
Unfortunately, what went on in Dallas today didn’t look much like football. But it was great football in Waco!
Bama needs to lose one more game. Auburn I hope.
HolaKyle has highlights up.
this does make you feel better about the game somewhat cause you don’t have to see all the BS what was our performance today
I agree 100% with Ole Miss showing how to run the zone read. Bo Wallace has the Ags on their heels. It seems to be that Trevor should be running more given that our receivers aren’t nearly as skilled as last year. Oh well, guess we’ll see
Wallace is a FAR better thrower.
Even with better WR, TK would still not be accurate.
I just hope that in 2015, Stoops allows a QB competition. If so, I think either Baker or Justice win out.
Wallace is a FAR better thrower? lol, please. He is a senior, who is coming around, have you seen him play before, 2-3 picks guaranteed a game. I will take TK in a heartbeat, any day, all day, thanks.
And earn this one we did. To play so well at times and so poorly at times, they didn’t quit. We did a ton of things poorly but we did just enough right too. I’ll take that all day every day. No glamour, just solid when it counted,
True/False – did JH learn anything from this game to carry over?
False, it’s become a habit. There have been many times to learn and it doesn’t ever change for more than a series or two.
T/F-insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, therefore heupel is insane
ROTFLMFAO……..
Well that definition is true but I think Heupel only knows the system he grew up in and he knows what he would do if he was on the field, problem is, he’s not on the field and he has no clue how to use the talent he has.
That is a lucid and truthful comment Ray.
You have to know that TCU is just blown up right now. They had that game in the bag and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
You mean they lost their Horny? :p
EasTex…..just wrong in sooooo many ways:-)
I could have said desire, I guess.
EasTex, is circling the drain!!
Just saw a clip of Patterson on the half time show.
He was gut punched.
I’ll bet he has a melt down rant like Duck Man.
You really need to stop watching cartoons Tex. 🙂
No can do.
They need to quit canceling good cartoons like Duck Man and Ren & Stimpy.
good is a very very relative term…haha
Don’t go talking about my relatives, now.
The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen is a classic.
that one went way over my head. if it ain’t scooby doo(from childhood) or a disney pixar film(from parenthood), i won’t know what it is
Okay then, just for you.
wow. thank you. i feel cultured now. that would rank between going to the opera and root canal work
That’s the spirit!
Yea, I’d imagine they fall back to earth and lose 1-2 more games at least. But, I bet it was fun for them while it lasted.. And they Beat us (damnit, it still stings!)
Largest crowd to ever watch a Texas team lose in the state of Texas… Sure is fun to watch the Aggies struggle. Maybe Sumlin should spend less time with Rick Ross and more time in the film room.
He has always had that problem as HC…not the Ross thing, but playing defense. I attribute it to his offensive back ground. It seems defensive guys always do better as HC.
Signing off. 0500 comes early:-( Good day to be a Sooner. I can read the sports section tomorrow. Hopefully it’ll be better than Berry Tramel’s grading comments!!
So is Patterson, going to claim Baker Mayfield was at the Baylor game stealing signals.
He already did. Said he was wearing the mascot suit, giving Baylor the calls the last 11 minutes of the game!!
It is on him only, he should have punted or quick kicked.
He saw their D get run out in the 4th quarter, so gave up on them.
Still on him.
A kick puts the ball inside the twenty, BU took over around the 35. What little time they had left that 15+ yards could have made a difference, maybe OT instead of a loss in regulation.
I agree with both of you. He did give up on his D after Baylor scorched them in 4th for 3 scores with two of the drives over 90 yds, and scored in less than 3 minutes on each of them. Crazy. However, Tex is right, he is a defensive coach, and probably should have made Baylor drive the field one more time to win it.. But, gutsy call, and his D was getting smoked, so, who am I to say! lol
I haven’t been on here much after last weeks chaos. Here’s what I saw:
1) TK isn’t playing well, and he’s starting to realize it. You could see after a few easy passes were botched.
2.) Oline isn’t handling the competition well. They were able to use their size early, now in conference play bigger/better players, size alone won’t cut it.
3.) Pass rush has been awfully quiet, Geno hasn’t been a factor in two games it feels like. Today looked like Bond was subbed in, wasn’t able to see for who.
4.) Not sure why we run 3 WR’s anymore. It’s pointless and everyone knows where the ball is going.
5). We really miss Keith Ford.
6.) Special teams is actually pretty good.
7.) Steven Parker had a nice game, I’m sure we’ll see more and more of him.
8.) Our WR’s really, really need to get some size and strength. Small as can be.
Point’s are valid. The only difference between the chaos last week and the chaos this week is the way it is recorded in the win/loss slot.
Very true, I also had midterms and that stress mixed with this stress isn’t the best situation.
I am surprised at all the negative comments. I saw many positives out of the game.
1. We won
2. Sanchez does show improvement on his technique
3. I did hear the announcers say great call on some of the O plays
4. O made the plays needed to eat up the clock and win.
5. Better than last week.
6. We beat Texas again.
7. Jordan Evans just keeps getting better.
8. Our coaches did make adjustments at the half. Much better.
9. Defense showed they worked on the mistakes from last week.
10. WE WON
Just posted similar thoughts! I agree with all your comments.
1). Texas had 2x total yards
2.) 29 total yards in the first half
3). 1/11 3rd down conversions
4). We only ran 50 offensive plays
Not negative, pessimistic, or hating. Data trend is not good.
31-26 is the data I care about really.
Fair enough, always happy to put a smiley face on a pig!!!!
Agree mostly. One amendment to 8. Our defensive coaches made good half time adjustments. Despite the “improved” second half offense stats, we did not make good adjustments. To that point, we rarely do. Thank God for Mike.
Too much negativity in this thread guys. If I didn’t know better, I would have assumed that we lost 4 games in a row.
Few points of observation:
1. I think JH can improve (everyone can) but it is not totally on him that our O is struggling.
2. Our receivers not named Shepard have to step up (this is hurting us big time).
3. Also, our RBs are still very raw, constantly taking the wrong hole to mash through, clearly a work in progress, getting Keith might help a bit.
4. Our D is getting a lot of people playing time, even if we give up some plays, this is going to be highly beneficial over the longer run.
5. Key and main point – I think you guys are not giving this Texas D credit, they have seniors and play makers all over and they play suffocating D. To draw a little parallel, I remember when the longhorns went to the 2009 championship, they still could only score 16 against our suffocating D (even when their offense was pretty good the rest of the year, Mccoy even threw two picks). This longhorn D might be equally good. I am not saying we are going to the playoffs, but I am not really concerned with today’s game. You guys will see that we will improve and will make some noise come December. THEREISONLYONE BOOMER FREAKING SOONER
I expect being home for K.St. will help the team’s attitude.
I really think they will play better. One thing I will really like though is to go up tempo, big advocate of that. IMO, it really helps TK read defenses (makes it easier for him – he is still young and learning). We saw that in sugar bowl and today as well.
They didn’t show any emotion for the second week, which is concerning.
However, when they did go up tempo it seemed to fire them up.
Very concerning. No emotion? even for OU-Texas.. Crazy I tell you!
Up tempo is great, I like it too; but playcalling has to be better to give you a chance to go up tempo..
Yeah, playing at home after a month on the road will surely help.
JH will NEVER change. We were having this exact conversation about him last year and the year before that. Receivers don’t have a VOTE, Coaches do!!!. Our RB’s don’t have much to chose from, besides there is ONLY ONE RB that is choosing wrong 99% of the time. I hope all this playing time starts showing up in positive play. The Texas defense id good and it is great when they play a team coached by JH!
Plain and simple, our offense is way too predictable. If you watched the Baylor game, they ran the ball well then used play action and passed well. For some reason, JH doesn’t like keeping defenses guessing.
Agreed. Hard to keep defenses guessing when you run on almost every 1 and 2 down.
And don’t forget we run 1st and 2nd down doing the readless read option lol
I mentioned on Twitter today that today was the first time I really missed having a passing QB like Landry Jones at the helm. With Landry, you felt 3rd and long was always attainable. With TK, when I see 3rd and long I just cringe. I know who and how to defend OU and our opponents sure can as well. I truly feel if Landry had this defense we’d be undefeated right now. TK has a better defense, arguably a better OL and better stable of RBs than Landry ever has, and though Landry had Ryan Broyles to throw to, TK has Shep, a great #1 in his own right.
I dont want to pile onto Heupel but I dont get why we’re recruiting dual threat running QBs and then expect them to become pocket passers. It’s like we basically want a Landry Jones with escapability. I dont know who decides what QBs to go for, but I’d much rather we recruit Sam and Landry type QBs. Mike can give our QBs the defense to protect a lead. Cale can get us the RBs. Norvell can get us the WRs. Josh needs to get us the QBs. Any win is nice but we sure won ugly today, and I miss the days where we were regular threats to hang half a hundred on anyone. Our offense barely outscored our defense and ST today.
Either call a gameplan to support TK’s strengths and let him loose, or dont recruit TK type QBs and then be surprised he cant thrive as a pocket passer making every throw.
I can really see why OU was so desperate for Baker Mayfield to get eligibility.
Give TK JBrown, Saunders, Stills, Broyles, then lets compare the 10th start of LJ to TKs 10th start. And, I don’t understand this idea behind “TK is not a pocket passer, he is just a running QB and we need to run him to win”. What makes us conclude that TK is incapable of making reads and making plays from the pocket? Because last I checked even Peyton Manning throws INTs and lost games when he was in college.
To be fair, he was missing some open guys. I watched the guys on SoonerSports T.V. critique him and they were showing examples of poor footwork that cause errant throws, bad decisions, etc. It’s more coaching that it is Knight…just my opinion…
Why does Huep need to be in the PB? It seems so obvious that he needs to be on the field with his young QB.
My post wasn’t to bash TK. I just am questioning the coaching and play calling that does not seem to fit the talents of TK. I agree with you. Its just frustrating to see us repeat the same things and us fans already fear the worst when we are in 3rd and mid to long.
A poster on another Blog said he talked to Trevor’s Dad and the Dad is starting to question whether Trevor is in the right offense!!!
I do agree that TK is having some issues currently with his mechanics, missing open guys and stuff but considering how young he is as a passer and how young the group around him is, it is only going to get better.
The way Trevor misses he will NEVER be able to practice enough to get better. If the receivers weren’t midgets he would not over throw as often either.
Did you just compare TK’s passing skills to Peyton Manning’s? Wow.
I did not compare his passing skills to Peyton Manning. If you care to read what I wrote again, I said even a great QB like Manning has off days, it is only fair that we give TK a break sometimes. 10 games is hardly enough sample size, considering how we have completely new personnel on the offense this year, we need to have that at 6 games rather than 10, imo. At this time next year, if TK is still playing like he is doing today, I would eat crow and admit to you guys that we need to have some changes. Till then, I am supporting TK, JH and Bob, they will get the offense straightened, I truly believe that. BOOMER
SOONER! Man, I hope you’re right.
I do too! lol! TK has shown us he is capable of being elite, you can’t turn on a light you don’t possess, clearly he does, hope it turns on SOONER rather than later,
No disrespect to those WR, but were Saunders, Brown, Stills etc all potentially much more talented than Woods, Neal, Quick, Mead, Young, Smallwood and Todd etc? Or were they able to thrive and achieve more success catching passes from an offense tailor made for WR and a QB like Landry? I see TK missing a lot more throws than a Landry or Sam would, but by no means am I comparing TK’s strengths to them either. My issue is not utilizing the QB’s strengths and put him in the best chance to succeed. We seem to be trying to mold TK into Landry or Sam and I am trying to understand why we are recruiting running QBs if we don’t intend to let them run or make plays with their feet.
Did Bob and the crew not do a post game interview? I do not see it anywhere on the web?
http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=31000&ATCLID=209710090
try that
LOL. Not buying that Sanchez’s shoulder is 100%…I saw how careful they were being with him during the celebration of his pick 6!
I am starting to wonder if this is not all on coach Stoops. I have read a lot message boards today and one thing that has stood out is the fact that this O looks nothing like the O that Josh H played in and learned in. Josh likes to throw the ball and now all we do is run up the gut again and again. I am wondering if Bob has not chosen this game plan for some reason.
If this is the case, we can so adios to Heuple after this season. There’s no way Stoops is going to deal with doing someone else’s job. I look forward to hearing the way he covers for Heuple, just to see if I can read between the lines.
I agree and the thing is heupel can construct a good gameplan. He just doesn’t do it often enough and that is a major problem. I wish heupel could have a good gameplan week in and week out because he is the last “hero” for ou but if he doesn’t improve the rest of the season and if knight doesn’t improve I say replace both. Kevin Wilson would be in heaven if he had a guy like Cody Thomas spitting image of Bradford.
100% agree, Zack. I love Heuple because of what he did for OU as a player. There’s no doubt that he is important to the legacy of Bob Stoops, but enough is enough. I love the guy, but he’s not learning his lessons, and I hate it, but it’s time to go. Thomas is good…but honestly, I think that Hansen is the guy, that is, if we can get some decent QB coaching. His HS highlight film shows him throwing precision passes with dudes hanging all over him. I like all of our QB’s, but I think that we really need to get someone who can devote more time to coaching them up. It’s starting to turn into a flaw, which is ridiculous when compared to OU teams of the past.
Hansen could be better you’re right and unlike knight he could run the read option and may have more success staying away from injury. Also he may be able to see the field better being 3 inches at least taller than knight.
Hansen missed most of his Sr. season in high school due to injury.
Running QBs always get hurt.
Coach Heup, at this point, has not demonstrated the ability to handle both QB coach and coordinator duties as evidenced by a young QB that is not progressing and game plans that are very predictable. It doesn’t take a defensive genius to understand what play OU is going to run. Bummer
It probably is somewhat on bob because he’s not one to throw other guys under the bus. I hear guys wanting to blame the defense for the points they’ve given up the last 3 games but vs tcu and texas most of those points came because of lackluster offense leaving the defense out there most of the first half. Now I guess if this was a great defense they should have stepped up early and allowed more possessions to our offense however it wouldn’t have matter the play calling has been horrible. I know they would be satisfied with perine getting 4 or 5 every time because eventually the little leak would turn into a flood. But perine needs to be ran like we ran AD which was a pound the rock formation. Not an option formation where he has to get up to speed quickly he is not a scat back and neither is ross. Ford isn’t either but he has better quickness and can make the pistol work.
And the passing game needs some work but not as much as the doom and gloom would suggest. There’s simple fixes. Go 4 wide more often and the 4th can be a TE. But don’t have Neal, kj and shep as you’re only wr. They are all slot guys but shep is special and can play outside but it’s not ideal. Give smallwood and mead a chance. Don’t tell me they need to earn it in practice. They are massive targets and will give corners more problems than JH apparently thinks they will. If you have mead or smallwood run an 8-10 yard hitch the corner will have to go through them to make a play if the ball is thrown well. Also having those big targets outside will open things up underneath for Neal and shep on crossing type routes (which everyone outside of ou runs)
I bet I would make a terrible offensive coordinator but JH doesn’t make it look like he has an idea of what he wants to do
I like your style, and your analysis…
Really wish we would mix up formations again. No reason we cant run Diamond, I, Offset, pistol, and regular shotgun with 4 wide. I’m actually dumbfounded we can score at all, when we run the same formation every stinking play and series. thats not championship caliber to me. Get your team into position to succeed, and calling plays all game every game out of the same formation, just isnt it.
Also agree about defense on field too much, and yes, some of that is on the quick scores, but its also on all of these 3rd and longs we cant seem to stop lately..
thoughts
-we played awful in the 1st qt., but no matter how bad it was we still were ahead(can’t refute that)
-we played awful in the 1st half but still had the lead(i’ll take it)
-a kick return td and a pick 6, in the SAME HALF, WILL make your d tired-these are good things but in the long term can cause your d to be on the field a while
-ross is an awesome kick returner
-hodgson is a weapon
-barnett’s getting better, i think(boulware’s good)
-kick and punt coverage are pretty darn good(boulware needs a raise)
-hunnicutt is awesome(capt obvious)
-horky/connor are awesome(b/c just like in baseball, a reliever had a good career if you don’t remember him)
-i don’t like pessimism but why can’t we call more drives like the one that put us up 11 late 3rd?-those screens, like the one to neal, are deadly-everyone’s saying it, if trevor keeps, EVEN ONCE IN A WHILE, it keeps people honest-AND pulling and throwing is pretty salty too and 3rd and 4 swing pass to optimus when everybody in the stadium expected inside run-you can’t be afraid of injuries, people remember injuries…if you have to play guys you weren’t expecting to(i.e. thomas), you probly get a pass on not winning some sort of title
-whenever we get ford, dimon and walker back IT WILL BE NOTICED
-d was awesome 3rd qt-which was huge getting them some rest after being on the field the whole 1st half
-may every play be blocked like optimus’ td
– may every tackle be like evans in early 4th and sanchez when he finally wrapped somebody up(2 awesome tackles that were definitely felt)
-something is up in the secondary-they either don’t trust the safeties or don’t wanna delve into the depth or something-you don’t just continue to play off just to play off-i’ll give ya boykin but swoopes ain’t a 300 yd passer against austin peay much less us-hope we get whatever it is fixed
-me no likey mcconaughey commercials
-perspective-mich st has a good d right? they gave up 31 to a bad purdue and a late pick 6 gave them a 2 score win(obviously, last yr’s d was better)
-i’m a glass half full type guy and will take every opponent as they arrive on the schedule
-WE BEAT TEXAS-nothing wrong with that…ever…i’d rather win ugly than lose pretty
BOOMER!! DAMNIT!!
SOONER!! BY GOD!!
Did horky play?
I would love to see a quick kick on 3rd and 7. It would just save me the frustration of seeing our WR run a 5 yard out.
Please tell me about your picture. My dad has that patch on his Army uniforms from Viet Nam. I included it in the shadow box I made for him a few years back.
MAC SOG ( Military Assistance Command) special forces secret, No dog tags, no USA Military identifying marks or weapons. Mostly in the bush of Cambodia and Ho Chi Minh trail
Yep, that’s pretty much what dad says they were doing. He spent a lot of time in Cambodia. I have a picture of him standing in front of his Huey holding his AK-47. He says the pic was taken just before they took off across the border. Thanks for telling me the MAC SOG part.
http://historynhakythuat.blogspot.com/
I was watching today’s highlights and it suddenly occured to me, “Why can’t we get a real QB-DT?”. I want a guy that is a really good runner and a really good passer. Knight isn’t either really. He’s a pretty good runner, and an okay passer; Alabama was his only great passing game. True difference making QB-DT are out there and other teams are getting them. OU is a national power. Why aren’t they getting guys like Manziel, Drescott, Mariotta, RG3, etc.?
Maybe we are, but they aren’t being coached up to even the minimal of what other schools are offering. I think that TK9 could be phenomenal if he had real coaching, and by real coaching, I mean just the minimal coaching, period. I think that we have guys that can win, but I do not believe in Heuple.
I don’t know. Coaching is probably part of it, but is there any QB at OU that you really think is an amazing athlete? Maybe Justice Hansen is. None of us knows. I’d like to see a guy with a rocket arm and a 4.5 forty.
I remember that ESPiN guy, the running back from Ohio State/Minnesota Vikings saying that Knight had the quickest release he had ever seen. I personally watched the Sugar Bowl, so I know he can be very good. I just think he has fallen victim to poor coaching. If we were on par in QB coaching with schools even as lackluster as TTech I think Knight would be amazing.
Kendall Thompson was and fits those descriptions nicely. Oh wait, he’s gone to Ute land!
What a total Clusterduck!!!!!!!!
Takeaways from Saturday –
1. The Texas D is for real. I know everyone wants to blame Josh H. for all our O ills, but this one is mostly credited to how their D line manhandled our O line in the first half. Remember, they held Baylor’s offense scoreless in first half of that game. Think about that.
2. The kickoff return by Ross and pick six by Sanchez was great for scoreboard, but really put our D on the field much more than normal and hurt us in that respect. It also took our O out of the game and out of any rhythm. It had a significant effect.
3. We had too many 3rd and longs because of lack of production on 1st and 2nd downs. I know JH wanted to pound the rock up the middle with Perine, but against that D line not too many people are going to have success. We did have some success on misdirection plays and that is what I’d like to see more of against all these aggressive defenses. Use their speed against them.
4. Not many people are talking about how Evan’s pass coverage got torched multiple times in first half when Shipley et. al. would go sit in the middle of our LB zone and Evans would not pick up the man. Dude, go cover the guy in your area!!! I was screaming at the tv so many times…
5. Our O got into a rhythm in 3rd qtr and looked good. We are so much better when we can play fast (tempo) and mix the run/pass. We have the skill players to really present problems and we need to figure out a way to make that play more consistent.
6. Yes, TK9 has accuracy problems, but it looks like a majority of it stems from really bad footwork when he panics after first read isn’t there. It seems like he hasn’t progressed enough in his WR read ability like I had hoped he would. I am still hoping that the proverbial light will come on at some point and he will improve significantly.
7. And speaking of TK9 reads, I get the feeling that on ZR plays it is TK9’s fault for not pulling the ball and running when it is there. Jason White said as much on the radio the other day that it looked like to him that TK9 just isn’t reading the defensive end. This is scary if the pace of the game is all still just a blur to TK9. Again, hoping the light will come on soon and the game will slow down for him and let him scan the field and process the data quickly but calmly.
8. Even with the challenges, we won! Boomer frickin’ Sooner Baby!
9. Parity in college football talent has arrived. There are just a few difference makers on some teams that differentiate between who is ranked higher on any given week. Everybody is beatable, and you had better bring your A game to win each and every week. NOTHING should be taken as a given win. Enough said.
10. Let’s beat those MildCats!
Good points, especially number 8!! However, on point number 7… I just dont see how TK is actually reading for himself. If he is, then you would at least think he would “mess up” sometimes and keep it for himself, even if when he reads DE wrong. He never keeps, which says to me its a called give by Heup upstairs.. And if he IS allowed to read, and never pulls, then they have the wrong man trying to run option. I just dont see it. Coaches need to pull shackles off the man and let him pull it!
I’m just repeating what Jason White said. I think the ZR problems are mostly with TK9 not executing it properly – with the added direction from the coaches to not take too many chances. Plus, I get the distinct impression that TK9 doesn’t WANT to run much at all. Now, that’s a problem!
We won the Red River Rivalry and somehow I think Texas fans are probably more satisfied with that game that we are. Very grateful that we pulled it out though. I think with just a few fixes, we could be back in business. 1) Need to fix the secondary. They’re a disaster. Swoopes looked like a Heisman candidate, Shipley was running free all over the field and our DB’s were standing around with their arms up in the air because they didn’t know what to do (literally). I saw multiple plays where they weren’t sure who was doing what before the snap. GET IT FIXED PLEASE!!! 2) Make TK run or stop the zone read. 3) Start the game with some easy rhythm throws that TK likes to get him going. Don’t bench TK, don’t fire Heupel. Just get TK off on the right foot at the beginning with some easy completions and he’ll settle in fine. If we wait till 3rd and long for our 1st pass play, we’re in trouble. If you watch his previous starts, when we’ve done that, he’s been fine. When we don’t, we gain 29 yards in the 1st half. Simple fixes on both sides of the ball.
Someone said before the TCU game that this 3 game stretch would show us a lot about our team. 2 games in and I’m not sure what to think. We’re either a lot better than we’re playing currently or we’re highly overrated. One thing is for sure, the Big 12 is much better than a lot of people thought. Baylor, TCU, OU, KState (only loss to Auburn), OSU (only loss to FSU), WVU (only losses to OU and Bama). Not to mention that UT is improving. No comment on Tech, ISU or KU. So we’re looking at a really tough conference.
A very reasonable assessment. I hope we’re a lot better than we’re playing.
Sure would be great to have Ford, Walker, and Dimon back. With Ford, I think we make a few more first downs and let the D rest. Obviously with Walker and Dimon back the DL won’t be so gassed in the 4th qtr. We can overcome some offensive ineptitude if our defense can play strong for 4 qtrs. I don’t mean to sound like Stoops, but just a few little things going differently could have caused this game to go much better.
One question: if we don’t have playmakers at WR outside of Shepard, then why are we only recruiting one WR this class?
Recruiting – numbers game. Roster is full.
Getting Ford back will help to open up our offense again. I didn’t realize how much he meant to our team. It’s HUGE.
Taking nothing away from Perine at all; he’s been great! But Ford will find holes that Perine might not. Plus, Perine wears down; the truck/tank combo will stay fresher.
Good points here and just below. I accept the coaches know quite a bit more about what they are trying to do than I ever will; they say the offense is not off by much. I keep hearing how windows are so small and creases open and close in a heartbeat. I listened to one former QB talk on TV about how half of the passes a good Qb throws are well before the reciever is open, it’s anticipation and being on the same page with the WRs. Seems like a lot of times TK expects them to,sit in an open space ala Ryan Broyles and they keep moving through the area and other times it’s just the opposite. People at the games say the WRs are not getting open. Maybe this is jacking up his game big time. Sugar bowl TK had Saunders, Shep,and Bester- dudes that knew how to get open. Neal was a sub last year for a reason and the others never got on the field for the same reason. Perhaps these WRs have just gotten by on speed in HS and are having a tough time learning technique. Norvell coached Bester up as he did Cameron Kenney. Sorry to be long winded. Your comments got me to thinking. Good post— keep ‘me coming. Boomer!
I still can’t get over KJ dropping that drive sustaining 3rd down pass.
Norvell was all over him when they came to the side line. Probably all over him again today in the WRs film session.
Gotta keep winning folks. Appears the college scoreboard is working out so far… Just gotta keep winning.
Well, except for those Razorbacks. Would have loved to see back to back Bama losses.
Right!? would have been beautiful.
Danged missed extra point by Hawgz.
I think the whole nation would’ve loved to see that.
Could Kiffin gone to a more perfect place to fuel the hate? FYI my autocorrect tried to change Kiffin to Muffin. Well played, autocorrect, well played.
Gotta love ESECPN’s subtle shift of their SEC love from preseason favorites Bama, LSU, SC and A&M to now rallying behind the Mississippi powerhouses lol. No disrespect to either as they are deserving of their record and praise. Heck, they might as well start giving more love to Kentucky.
Noticed the shift too. Early on it was Bama, Auburn and high hopes for TA&M. Shifted big time. But there’s still a lot of football to be played. I think the whole season gets flipped on it’s head before everything is said and done. The teams selected to be in the playoffs will be supercharged with controversy since so many teams will have a loss.
Yes. I believe if some of the media darling teams start to run the risk of missing out, how long til we see a shift to calls for an 8 team playoff?
I wanted 8 team playoff to begin with, but you are probably right. I had to quit watching all the pregame shows because of the bias. It has ruined my pregrame rituals of old. Now I just work on HoneyDo’s around the house until kickoff instead of being glued to the tube all morning. I know the wife appreciates it! 🙂
8 would be great.
Hmm . . . should we call that “The Big 8”? 🙂
Four teams is a beauty pageant, 8 or 16 teams is a playoff.
apparently…lack of a second receiver, is devastating, almost.
Knight needs to find the second receiver. Bell is open on 90% of his routes, KJ had what 2 attempts yesterday? Neal… Needs the screens etc. where is Woods?
On the bright side – It deserves to be mentioned –
Bob is 9-6 over Texas, and as for the league re-alignment new arrival “Texsa” Bob is 1-0 over them.
And as another TFB commenter posted last night – all Sooner Nation has 364 days to enjoy the bragging rights, hard-earned by our team.
Give our guys the kudos they deserve. That Texsa D was no slouch.
10. 10 wins over texsa, first coach in OU history
heh heh let me stir the pot –
in the 1984 15-15 tie, Keith Stansberry actually made that interception, as the officials later admitted. So I’ll be a blatant homer, call that one a 15-12 win for Sooner Nation, and give Barry 10 wins over texsa.
Since we now have the bragging rights, that makes it possible, right?
This is accurate. I’ll give Barry a tie to count as #10. I however will not concede schnellenbergers tie as anything but
On a bright note – glad to see Sanchez back. His play was outstanding and he’s a difference maker when healthy.
Yes he was. Conversely, I don’t think I ever heard J. Wilson’s name called.
I saw a good tackle by Wilson. Question – do you think Parker played well enough to replace Ahmad Thomas? AT didn’t play very well and seemed to get beat often. I hope SP can pick up the pace and shore up the Safety position.
Haven’t watched the safeties enough to have an opinion, but they are all very young.
Yep, sure do appreciate him producing while playing with major shoulder pain. Impressive.
I tried to re-watch the game last night. Honestly, I have never seen a team win that looked so out of sorts for such a long period. But, as I previously said, a win is a win (and a win over Texas for that matter).
A season can have it’s peaks and valleys, and right now we are in a valley. This is especially true offensively. Hopefully coming back to Norman and playing in front of the home crowd will help. One thing I know, if this team plays the way it is right now against Baylor, it isn’t going to be a contest.
As for Trevor, there are some things that just take experience and work. I don’t know what his read progression is supposed to be so I don’t want to speak to that, but I do know that there are multiple times he misses someone who isn’t open yet but is about to be in the very near future. He doesn’t look like he is particularly adept (at this time) at anticipating someone coming open. For example, on the pass where he was rolling to his right and threw back to Shepard one yard short of the first down, you can see Blake Bell is about (as in within a second) of breaking wide open about 15 yards down the field. I know, it’s easy to look at a replay from above and say “you should have thrown it there” and another thing to do it on the field, but if you watch the really good ones, they are able to do this.