Sooners News Daily 1.8.15

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Stoops offers action, yet without explanation’ (Transcript)

If you care and/or are willing to hear him out, John Hoover attempts to explain why he asked Bob Stoops about reportedly taking a mid-season vacation. (TW)

From yesterday.

Shocking.

BASKETBALL

OU women got a nice win on the road last night. (Sooner Sports)

“In truth, Oklahoma should probably be the favorite to win the league after its win in Austin.” (Grantland)

OTHER

If you don’t watch Archer, which is premiering its sixth season this week, get caught up. It’s one of the funniest shows on television. (Grantland)

Ridiculous.

Bad Idea Jeans.

Sooooo, pretty much Flatliners then, yes?

 

85 Comments

  • Jim says:

    Sooooo…Gabriel Campbell is still going to take in-state visits? Not sure what to make of that. Part of me says “he’s not 100% committed, and he’s simply place-holding”, and the other part says he’s doing it to appease some folks in his circle.
    Couldn’t agree more about Archer. It’s basically James Bond mixed with Family Guy. F’ing hilarious.

  • paganpink says:

    Maybe Switzer wants to be an Assistant Coach for awhile? Greatest recruiter EVER!

  • Bart Young says:

    Hoover is long past the point of deserving to have readers “hear him out”. Journalists should definitely ask hard questions when appropriate, but they should not carry out their personal vendettas/conflicts/attacks/jealousies towards the person being covered within their columns. In my opinion that is exactly what Hoover does.

  • mgcsooner says:

    Just think if we could talk the King into being the OU recruiting Coordinator. Ahh Alarm goes off, time to get up, eh

  • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

    If only Montgomery could recruit new coaches.

  • cush creekmont says:

    IF (that big old “if”) Stoops does (can) hire Frost, it WILL look this the 1999 beginning – new O guy with the current hard-to-stop scheme. That would help me believe that he truly does want to get back to high-level winning.

  • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

    John Hoover defending his nonsense question…rich I tell you.

    It seemed clear to me that John was fishing.

    First, he implies that it was to meet with someone else rather than a vacation. The implication that he perhaps was meeting with someone at UF.

    Second, he explicitly asks if it contributed to OU’s loss. I think that seeing TCU play throughout the year and against Ole Miss should show that his question was nonsense.

    • Steve Johns says:

      I couldn’t believe Hoover brought up Bob being the same age as his father when he died. Classless MFer!

      • Clint Lenard says:

        I was driving home and had 2 Texas fans (they’re family, what can I say) sitting in the car with me while I was listening to this, and both were like “WTF?” and “Why would someone ask a stupid question like that?!”… I figured it was him.

        • Steve Johns says:

          It’s called having a vendetta. The Tulsa World has 3 guys covering OU, the SID should cut him out.

  • SamSooner says:

    If we want Bob Stoops to be at his best and if we want OU to win championships again, we need to leave the man alone. Hoover is an idiot and is only adding to the noise that Bob and the staff have to filter through. The more noise, the more distractions, the more performance will decline.

    How many of us at our jobs have said or wanted to say “if you leave me alone I can get it done.”? Someone breathing down your neck is not a good environment to work in.

  • Indy_sooner says:

    Whats the deal with Humphrey? I thought “official” meant a LOI on NSD. Is he an early enrollee? That being said, holding on to him w. Norvell’s departure is very good news.

  • Sooner Ray says:

    Is it going to be another day of speculation? **sigh**

  • Brad Warren says:

    Hoover is so consumed with his hatred of Coach that it’s a complete detriment to the Tulsa World.

    • soonerthunder says:

      He’s also rude to Gundy. I think he’s a narcissist. They have a few little problems getting along in this world.

    • Jed says:

      And considering that the only thing the TW has going for it is local sports coverage, that pretty much tells the story.

  • Mike Reed says:

    I think that from now on, Montgomery needs to be paired with every alleged 5* recruit (you know, the ones Saban is signing every year building his dynasty) and start bringing all them to Norman.

    • Zack says:

      Agreed and send gundy and bedenbaugh too. I trust those 3

    • SamSooner says:

      Saban and his 5* recruits have taken it on the chin in the last two bowl games. LOL!

      • Sooner 4Ever says:

        As opposed to our stellar performance just 2 weeks ago?

        Don’t get me wrong, I like Coach Satan losing bowl games as much as anyone… but it’s kinda hard for me to spend much time pointing out his last two bowl losses while we’re trying to clean the vomit off our jerseys from throwing up all over ourselves against Clemson. Even worse, he’s cleaning up with a towel that says “3 national championships in 4 years” while we’re using a napkin that says “Big 12 co-champions 2012.”

        • SamSooner says:

          I see your point. I get it. All I’m saying is Saban has won the same number of national championships as OU has in the past two years. To cap that off, he has a stacked deck.

          The question to be asked is who’s really under-performing?

          • Sooner 4Ever says:

            Brother Sam, I wasn’t meaning to call you out. Like I said, I enjoyed watching Bama lose both of those Sugar Bowls, especially last years. I just have a hard time finding fault with the guys results (even when losing to Sugar Bowls in a row with all those 5 star recruits). The thing is, he is getting all those 5 star recruits by he and his staff working their asses off. And he has 4 National Championship rings to show for it.

            To me, that is the big difference between Satan and guy like Mack Brown. We laughed at Lack Crown for rarely winning titles despite all of that talent. I find it hard to judge Satan’s losses to harshly, in spite of his “talent advantage” because he has won a lot of games and multiple conference and national championships with that talent. He is not just Coach February who recruits like a stud but with nothing to back it up. He’s a bit of an ass… but he’s an ass who has shown he can win.

            But, we beat him the last time we played him… so we’ve still got scoreboard. LOL And, no matter how many trophies you have sitting on your mantle… if you’re an ass, you’re an ass.

          • SamSooner says:

            Sooner 4Ever, I didn’t take offense to what you said. I really enjoy the diversity in opinions on this site. I certainly hope I didn’t give you the impression that I was being argumentative.

            This is the best site ever. I appreciate the different perspectives. It allows for growth. I believe what I believe just like you believe what you believe. That still doesn’t mean someone is wrong and someone is right.

            I respect your opinion. Thanks for sharing.

          • lovethemsooners says:

            …..to add to that, it’s nice being able to get varying opinions without having to be subjected to being insulted or called names for it…….unlike what goes on over at the OUI board.

          • SamSooner says:

            Agreed.

          • Sooner 4Ever says:

            I didn’t think you were being argumentative… I was just clarifying my post to make sure that you knew that my reply was not meant come across as lecturing or condescending. I think we must have both spent too much time on OUI where any difference of opinion results in name calling… now we’re all worried that if we offer a slightly different opinion the other person will think we’re making a personal attack.

          • Lane Gilstrap says:

            What were we ranked in the preseason again? What did we finish?

          • Clint Lenard says:

            What was Bama ranked 2 weeks ago? What did they finish? If they weren’t in the SEC, would they even be in the top 15?

          • SamSooner says:

            All of it is perception. It doesn’t matter. You have to perform. The perception that a 5* player is better than a 4* player won’t mean a hill of beans to the guys who are doing the work.

            Both are out to prove their value. Some people tend to draw their conclusions solely on results. Well, I think it’s bigger than that. There are a lot of winning streaks that began at the tail end of the worst losing streak. It has to start somewhere.

            If an athlete will only think he’s good and capable of winning when the fans say so, what the hell are we waiting for? Let’s heap the praise on right now and the clear a space for the trophy in 2015.

            You and I both know it’s not that easy. A team that wins them all aren’t necessarily the best and the team that loses them all isn’t necessarily the worst.

            So, the question remains, is Alabama invincible? Is OU done for? It certainly seems that way based on the recent result. But I’m not playing the game.

            It doesn’t matter what I think.

  • Sooner 4Ever says:

    Here’s my take on Hoover/ Stoops midseason vacation, for what it’s worth (and it ain’t worth much)…

    As to the vacation itself, I don’t like it. You have an off week just prior to playing @TCU, Texas (your biggest rival played on a ‘neutral’ field), and KSU. Really? You think that’s a good time to be vacationing in Florida. Bad idea. Really bad idea. Especially when you come back from vacation to lose 2 of the 3 (and should have lost all three). And, you are a coach who is known for being very much the “anti-Snyder.” So, you proudly tell everyone that you are not a 70 hour a week coaching staff and then when you get an extra week to prepare for a tough stretch of games, you use part of it to take a quick family va-cay to sunny Florida? Hell, the season only runs from August 1 through January 1… you couldn’t get enough vacationing in during the other 7 months? I just really think it’s bad idea… especially in a season in which you WAY under performed as compared to your expectations. It looks like you are guilty of reading your own press clippings and thinking you don’t have to prepare as hard as the other teams do (something Coach often accuses his players of when they fail to meet expectations).

    That said, Hoover is proof that if you act like an asshat who is out to get a guy every chance you can, you continue to look like an asshat even when you may have something legitimate to bring up. It’s like the boy who cried wolf… eventually, no one listens to what you crying about it. Hoover has shown his ass so many times in dealing with Coach Stoops that even when he is coming at Stoops with something that I think should be addressed, I don’t want to hear the issue brought up by Hoover.

    As a side note, is it not poetic that his name is John Hoover?

    – A ‘John’ = a sleezy loser who pays for sex.
    – Hoover = the first name in vacuum cleaners (a tool that sucks).

    – John Hoover = A sleezy tool that sucks (and probably has to pay for sex)>

    That is all

    • Lane Gilstrap says:

      I didn’t like the vacation either. But if you think he has 7 months off you are fooling yourself. There’s Spring training and a lot of recruiting going on not to mention the month leading up to the season is spent practicing.

      • Sooner 4Ever says:

        First of all, I started the season clock on August 1st… which is the month spent practicing leading up to the start of the season.

        Second, believe me, I know that there is a lot of work being done during the offseason. But, he and the staff take vacations during the off season… which is the time to do it. There are no games imminent at that point. To me, it sends a very bad message about your work priorities when you take a vacation in the middle of the season. Like I said, especially when you are already known for not being a coach that requires the 80-100 hour work weeks from your staff. I think that is the part that bothers me the most about it… you already put in less time during the season than most other staffs, but you STILL needed a vacation during the off week?

        • Clint Lenard says:

          You must not have kids, or a family…or be a boss, or have to take the heat any time you decide you’d like a break from maniacal fans so that you can hang out with your family who is quickly getting older while you continue to work your ass off so some groups of clowns can ask why you’d think about taking a once a year vacation.

          There IS NO OFF-SEASON for College coaches. None.

          • Sooner 4Ever says:

            Actually, I have five kids and, recently, added a grandson. And I spent 20 years building houses for people. People who wanted their home in 6 months even though they were buying a house that needed 9 months to build. They were mostly lawyers, doctors, politicians and college professors… you know, people who know more about what you’re doing than you do (at least in their minds).

            And I worked 65-90 hours a week from early April through December. Every week. In 17 years of doing that, I took a week vacation during the “slow period” (January thru early April) 4 times. I would take 3-4 day weekends 4-5 times a year (usually timing them around holidays so as to miss the fewest days possible). Why did I do this? Because I built alone. No one else knew the project. There was no one who could really cover when I was away. So, if I took a week off when I had 16 homes under construction, I would come back to 6 weeks worth of trying to straighten out everything that went wrong while I was away. It wasn’t worth it.

            And, lest you think I was one of those absent dads… I never missed a choir concert, basketball game, school play, etc. I was very good at what I did when it came to home building. I’m 3rd generation and grew up in the industry. It wasn’t always easy, but I did what I had to do get the homes built to the standards I, and my clients) demanded AND still be able to be a part of my family’s activities. It’s not easy… I had/ have a very high standard for myself when it came to the product I produced. I also refused to be an absentee father. And, I made a HELL OF LOT LESS than Coach Stoops does to do what he does.

          • WilliamJack says:

            BOOM! If the General Contractor isn’t there to supervise his Sub-contractors the Subs don’t always pay as much attention to detail and the devil is always in the details. I get your point exactly.

          • Sooner 4Ever says:

            You nailed it. Ugh… that was a bad, unintentional pun.

            Yeah, I have long thought that new construction, especially residential, is very much like coaching. As the GC, you are the guy who has to answer for the final product. And you have guys under you who do the actual work. The subcontractors and laborers are the assistant coaches and players.

            The buyer is the fan who pays for the product you produce. The city inspectors, appraisers, lender 3rd party inspectors are like the media… always shining a light on your product and often have way to high of an opinion concerning their qualification to judge it.

            I played wide receiver and was dang good at it. I have taught younger guys the position, tying to share my knowledge… and doing so just re-enforced my opinion about the similarity of coaching and contracting. I know what the players need to do. I understand footwork, rout tree, leverage, getting separation at the right place in the right time… all of that. I just don’t do it any more. And when they get out on the field and do something wrong, I’ll think “that’s not what I showed you.”

            In building, my production background is wood working (cabinetry, laminate countertops and door and trim). As a builder, I know when there is something wrong with a marble floor. I can’t install the marble correctly, but I know when it’s done wrong. It is my job to make sure the guy doing the install does it right. With coaches, Mike Stoops can’t play safety anymore. But, it’s his job to teach the guys to do it and correct the mistakes, even though he is no longer capable of getting out there and performing the way he’s demanding his guys perform. Like I said, there’s a lot of overlap in the two jobs.

          • Clint Lenard says:

            Too long, didn’t read. Cliff notes?

          • Sooner 4Ever says:

            Umm… cliff notes.

            You assumed incorrectly and were proven wrong. 🙂

          • Clint Lenard says:

            Oh, *I* was the one with assumptions? Strange. Seems like you went on a rant assuming you knew Stoops’ situations and reasons. As if you knew him and his family and stuff.

          • Sooner 4Ever says:

            Again you assume things you don’t know… and come to the wrong conclusion. I’ll give you a couple of hints… I live in Norman and one of my daughters is a freshman at Norman North and attended Whittier Middle School the previous 3 years. She plays sports and has numerous friends there.

          • Sooner 4Ever says:

            Further, I wasn’t ranting. I support Coach Stoops. I just think it was a very poor decision to be away from the offices for part of an off week. It hurts the optics of it that we went 1-2 following the off week.

            It is possible to support the coach and disagree with a decision he makes. Just like it’s possible to have difference of opinion on a message board without being a d-bag.

          • Clint Lenard says:

            He took a weekend off while he let the players off as well. He didn’t take a week off or anything. And nobody knows what he may have been dealing with at that time.

    • soonerthunder says:

      I don’t get how you think they should have lost all 3 games. And Stoops didn’t “come back” to lose 2 of 3. He lost a very close game to TCU b/f vacation that could have gone either way, and SHOULD HAVE WON the KSU, not “should have lost” it. Did you watch it? A guy who ties the Big 12 scoring record can’t get another kick through the goal posts? An extra pt? Two close FGs? And we “should have lost”? I think we “should have won.” I agree with Synder who said “we were LUCKY.” Don’t see where you (or Hoover, I don’t read/listen to him) that he came BACK to lose 2 of 3 games. Those games were lost before the vacation. I definitely don’t think they should have lost the KSU game. I think they won the UT game legitimately, and not “they should have lost it” either.

      However, I will agree with you about Hoover being a jerk. How do people think this guy asks “tough” questions? They are stupid, and he acts like a jerk, to Gundy, to whomever, to get attention. I had the privilege of observing the press conference one week (can’t remember which one) where Hoover KEPT ASKING stupid questions about what Stoops would do if the other team didn’t shake hands with his captains. Not once, not twice, not three times, but at least 4x. Everyone else there asked questions we were all interested in, but Stoops said the only thing he could say, something like, I don’t deal in hypotheticals, and people say stupid things like, Stoops acted agitated. I didn’t think he acted agitated at all, he acts the only way a kind man like Stoops can act. It’s Hoover being rude and people say Stoops is agitated. What’s he supposed to do? He’s answering the STUPID question no one cares a flip about over and over. Tell me how he’s supposed to act. I think people are transferring Hoover’s rudeness onto Stoops somehow and reasoning that he must be agitated so let’s say he is.

      The media is arrogant, and that’s the bottom line. VERY hypocritical and two-faced. They criticize Brooks and Stoops when they act as nice as a person can, and they act one way to their face and then back-bite/slander them to their back. The cry (literally, I love it) when the Thunder, let’s say, doesn’t give them inside information on who they are looking at to draft or the like. I love it that the teams I pull for don’t give them information and it thrills me whenever I hear them crying about it.

      Solution: don’t follow Hoover on twitter, subscribe to his papers, read anything he writes or listen when he’s interviewed. Completely ignoring him is the best way to respond to a narcissist.

      • Sooner 4Ever says:

        We had an extra week to prepare for TCU, Texas and KSU. I ask you did the coaches do EVERYTHING they possibly could to prepare for those games? Might they have found something that could have helped us not need Moneycutt to hit that kick had they spent more time preparing? Obviously, there’s no way to know because they didn’t do it. What do know for certain is that while taking that little vacation, Stoops clearly didn’t figure out a way to beat TCU or KSU.

        And we got outplayed by Texas. A Texas team that had lost 3 of their previous 4 (beating only lowly Kansas in that stretch) and finished the season with a losing record. I know it’s a rivalry game and anything can happen in those. I also know if that’s the case… then maybe you shouldn’t spend part of the off week you were given 2 weeks before that game taking a family vacation.

        • soonerthunder says:

          I agree with you; I don’t think I’d take mid-season vacations, and I agree with you about Hoover. I don’t think it had anything at all with Honeycutt missing FGs though, and we clearly outplayed KSU, stats, everywhere. The moment Honeycutt tied the all-time record he didn’t make a single other kick. That has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with vacations. It was a complete mental breakdown. Yes, UT is a rivalry game and UT played everyone great from then on, if you remember, winning 4 of final 6 games losing only to KSU and TCU. Also, they scored two TDs w/8 minutes to go in the game to make it a 5 pt game. I think the way the game went determined a lot of OU’s play-calling. No way I think we “should have lost” all three. I think we should have won 2 of 3 easily, and could have won all three. Don’t thinnk the vacation played a role one way or the other, and definitely don’t think it would have helped a kicker.

          • Sooner 4Ever says:

            It looks like we agree on just about everything, except the Texas game. I agree we should/ could have beaten KSU, but we didn’t. I agree that Stoops’ vacation isn’t the reason Moneycutt missed that kick. But, my issue with the vacation is, again, might we not have needed that kick if the coaches were all putting in more time working on the game plan, looking for an edge somewhere?

            As to Texas… you say in regards to KSU we clearly outplayed KSU, stats, everywhere.” I say that the stats versus Texass was WAY more in favor of the loser in that game than in our loss to KSU.

            Take a look at the box score… http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=400547870

            They more than doubled us in several key catagories.., 1st downs, total yards, passing yards, 3rd down percentage. Hell, we were 1-11 on third down. We won the turnover battle 1-0, the penalty tally went our way and the final score.

            Overall, they thumped us but we got the “W.” And hey, I’ll take it. But the fact of the matter is, in terms of the play on the field and the final stats, we were much more deserving of a loss in the Texas game than we were of a win against KSU. But, the only stat that really matters when all is said and done is Ws and Ls.

          • soonerthunder says:

            I agree, we might not have needed to kick if we’d done other things better, but it wasn’t just “that kick.” It was 3 CLOSE kicks a/f he tied the record. I do agree also I’m glad we came out with a win against UT, but I also think the score made us a little more conservative, too, against a good defense, and a little looser on defense. Watch games and you’ll see every team plays a little less attack defense when they are way ahead. They look at the score, the clock, and just don’t want to get beat long, run the ball (Stoops has done it 16 yrs with the lead–don’t beat yourself, come out with a win).

            So, I’m not with you on UT should have lost at all. And definitely not on KSU. I think we should have won both and could have won all three. If we play the should’ve game with UT, why not play that game with TCU and argue we should’ve won that one? Then, the way Hoover argues, we should’ve won all three. I can come closer to that looking at those games as should’ve won than should’ve lost all three, that’s for sure.

            Bottom line, I don’t think his vacation had anything to do with any of those games. Close games are part of every season, even to bad teams. Stoops is not the play-caller or position coach on offense or defense. The question should be if the OCs and DCs and their position coaches took vacations, not Stoops. And every coach gives the players more time off on off weeks. Besides, anyone around football knows they pretty much have a game plan worked out for every team on their schedule before the Spring game. They tweak it a little during the season, but they know pretty much going into the season what they want to do against every team they play. And the players can only practice so much a week.

            Why not look at it like this: OU lost (barely and could have won) to a team that deserves to be in the NC game right now, beat UT and should have beat KSU if a kicker who hasn’t missed a kick in 3 yrs practically has a mental meltdown but can’t kick one AFTER he ties the Big 12 record and knowing that the next kick he makes makes the all-time scoring leader by himself. That’s what happened. Vacations had nothing to do with anything, IMO.

          • Sooner 4Ever says:

            “The question should be if the OCs and DCs and their position coaches took vacations, not Stoops.”

            Attitude reflects leadership. – Julius Campbell in Remember the Titans.

            If the head coach is off on vacation during the season, do the assistant coaches think they need to be watching every scrap of film from the coming weeks’ opponents JUST IN CASE they find a a little something they can exploit? That’s my issue with the whole thing.

            There is one piece of empirical data that cannot be argued with – two of the next 3 weeks following that off week, we weren’t good enough to win with Stoops on vacation during part of the off week. I can’t prove that we would’ve found a way to win either of the 2 losses without the vacation, but I can prove that we didn’t find a way to win them with him gone.

            My last thought on this will be this adage… winning cures everything. If we had beaten TCU, Texas and KSU, I still would have thought it a bad idea to take a vacation on an off week but at least it didn’t hurt us in a tangible way. But, we lost 2 of 3… and it’s hard for anyone to say “He did everything he possibly could to win those 3 games” when he isn’t in the office watching film, checking up on his coaches, etc. If we had won, he would have that bullet in his gun to answer his critics. We didn’t win 2 of those 3, so he opened himself up to criticism.

          • soonerthunder says:

            I guess I don’t understand why Stoops has been doing this 16 yrs and all the sudden he loses to a NC game, IMO, team, barely in a game that could have gone either way, beats UT, should have beat KSU, and all the sudden it matters this year. It’s pure speculation that it would have mattered, and it might not have mattered, too.

            Hoover’s asked a dumb question, as usual, for attention he so desperately needs. Why didn’t OU win the rest of the year when he wasn’t taking vacations? I think it had more to do with a kicker melt-down, a terrible, terrible decision against OSU, very bad OC and DC play-calling and NOTHING to do with vacations.

          • Sooner 4Ever says:

            Soonerthunder, I just want to say I appreciate you sharing your opinion. It gives me another way to look at the situation. I enjoyed reading your take on the issue and sharing mine with you. Too bad such exchanges can’t take place civilly on all OU message boards **cough cough** OUI *cough cough**

        • D Hunter Sanchez says:

          Yeah, not calling a pass option requiring Knight to chose where to throw it from his own end zone.

    • ToatsMcGoats says:

      I don’t even care what anyone else writes about this comment…even if I didn’t agree with all of it, I definitely couldn’t keep from giving a standing ovation to the last portion.

      • Sooner 4Ever says:

        Thank you, Toats… that actually came to me during the press conference Tuesday while Hoover was badgering Stoops about the vacation. I thought “what a tool.”

        Then I thought, “Hoover, a tool that sucks… like the vacuum.” The rest came to me immediately, but I’ve been too busy with life to share my poetic epiphany with my fellow Sooner brother… until now.

      • SamSooner says:

        Toats and his sense-of-humor: much needed. LOL!

    • OUn8v says:

      FUJH ! Recycled. 🙂

    • soonersd says:

      It was only for 2 or 3 days (if it was a whole week I would side more with you) and he has owns a couple laptops I’m sure. As far as we know he spent a couple hours each day watching film. A quick trip to florida in a private jet is like driving to to Tulsa from OKC. Nothing to see here people, move along.

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    Poster(says he knows people in the coaching business) on LT claims OU is going to offer Frost 1.2mill per..

    • Phil Counts says:

      B O O M !!!

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I see no reason Oregon can’t/won’t match that.

      • Soonerfandave84 says:

        Does Helfrich care enough to match it. Is the real question

      • Mizuno44 says:

        You win the NC in the next few days, your QB leaves for the NFL, and he may feel disrespected to get a huge raise just to stay…not just a $$ play here.

      • Jeremy Phillips says:

        So what if they do.. Maybe he’d like a new challenge, install his own offense with free reign.. Expand his resume even more… We don’t usually know the motivations of these coaches job decisions..

    • Sooner 4Ever says:

      Something that I haven’t seen mentioned in regards to Cumbie and Frost…

      Both are QB coaches, but both have a good bit of experience coach wide receivers in their offensive system. So, if we hired either of them, we should still have the flexibility to make the second hire a WR coach or a QB coach. Hell, we could get both Frost and Cumbie and let them decide who would take the QBs and who would take the WRs.

      I say let’s be greedy and get both of those guys.

    • Boomer4life says:

      I just heard the samething!

  • blaster1371 says:

    The vacation thing to me is a non-issue. When badgered by Hoover about the fact he is the same as as his dad when he passed away led Stoops to briefly explain his health is a concern. If the man takes a few days to simmer down and to recharge then its good for the team. I have no idea what his daily and weekly schedules are like but I imagine he is running all over the place and putting out fires here and there and so forth. I can’t begrudge a guy for taking a brief break and I cannot see how that impacted the team’s performance. Who knows, it may have been suggested by his doctor and highly recommended by JC.

  • blaster1371 says:

    Another thing about Hoover. I think Stoops likes hammering him when he asks any questions at all- he kind of gets his dander up and after biting into Hoover looks like he is about to look over his shoulder and give a wink at someone.

  • Jim says:

    Can you guys try and get some info from Campbell on these in-state visits? Should OU be worried?

  • Jeff says:

    Mike could be gone since he is not helping recruiting the recent prospects

  • Rene Goupillaud says:

    If he’d ever coached a 15 to 17 game season, Hoover would know that you can over coach a team. Figuring out how to pull back without losing momentum is challenging. It’s more an art than a science. This year, we had 3 bye weekends making it even tougher.

    I thought the question lacked substance though the implication was clear. I had another problem with the question. It wasn’t a rumor. Hoover had confirmed it with multiple sources in or close to the program and no one denied it. Rumors spread, in this case most fans were unaware so nothing was circulating which comes as a surprise in the Internet age. No, calling it a rumor was wrong. If Hoover was as good a reporter as he seems to think he is, he’d have directly asked Bob to explain why he took a weekend trip to Florida with his family in the 5th week of the season. Fair question to ask and Bob likely would have answered it just as he did the actual question. A follow-up might have been, why give the players the weekend off. Then Bob could explain why. The answers would have been informative to fans. The question asked just set up a confrontation that can’t possibly further the TW’s relationship with the coaching staff.