Sooners News Daily 1.12.15

FOOTBALL

‘Can you make a case for Lincoln Riley as OU’s offensive coordinator?’ (TW)

Frost walks to his own beat. Always has, best I can tell. He raised eyebrows in 2006 when he chose a graduate assistant position at Kansas State, then an intense rival of Nebraska. So, how would Husker fans react to seeing Frost in Sooner garb, especially considering he wasn’t seriously considered for Nebraska’s head coaching job? (Journal Star)

‘The sky is not falling on OU Football.’ (OU Daily)

OTHER

That glare tho…

https://vine.co/v/ODaYBVETvVh

I think the title pretty much sums it up.

Good stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw-wODbjmZI

Soon.

Can’t wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU9QTLXYCCc

I’ve already seen this movie. It was called Short Circuit. Oh, and WTF is up with that haircut, Hugh?

Welp, this is something.

 

180 Comments

  • Indy_sooner says:

    Frost aint happenin’. This looks like a Cumby+Riley thing, that or Riley+Tyson Helton
    Cannot wait for House of Cards *double knocks*

    • Jeremy Phillips says:

      I hope Helton is a part of the new staff… I really like what I’ve seen & read about him…

      • Fear The Magic says:

        And I hope that Candle is. Especially what he brings to the table with his recruiting.

    • SoonerBred says:

      “Never say never,” when it comes to sports. Even if it’s a longshot I think Stoops will do everything he can to get us back in the hunt.

  • curt gomer says:

    I could live with Riley/Cumbie. Read somewhere last night that coach B and Riley dont get along so that worries me. Hope that came from Dean as well, if so it probably is BS.

  • kokevo says:

    If it were not for perine this season would have hurt so much more and at the start of the season I was so excited about ford I thought he was going to be the next big thing.

    • curt gomer says:

      Cant hold on to the ball. Shame too cause he could be a really good back.

      • Scott Moore says:

        I’m hoping he gets his confidence back and can contribute. He’s a perfect third down back. Great hands, for catching anyway, and gets it going with a little open space. I think he and Perine could be a fantastic one-two punch. Throw Mixon in there and wow!

  • kokevo says:

    Im worried about riley passing the ball to much that may change with the personal that ou has I just don’t want all the talent we have at the rb position to be wasted.

    • curt gomer says:

      So far everything ive read he is pretty much 50/50 run pass

      • kokevo says:

        637 pass and 433 run that’s a little to much passing for me but I think he might have been working with the talent he had it might even out with the backs ou have.

    • Herman Bubbert says:

      No natty winner has ever approached 637 pass attempts in one season. I’m fine if they bring Riley in as QB coach. As play caller, absolutely not.

  • Rico says:

    so is hannah storm now in the same class with chris berman and his rant caught on tape.

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    This worries me.. Bob tried to force JH(an air raid disciple) into a zone read offense.. only to fire him & bring in another air raid guy..? After we spent the last 3 recruiting classes building the personnel for a zone read offense…? I’m very skeptical..

    • kokevo says:

      This……

    • SCKSChief says:

      True story. HOWEVER, Patterson did the same to Cumbie/Meacham at TCU. Worked well for them.

    • Soonerr says:

      There isn’t a great deal of difference between recruiting for a spread zone read and an air raid. Bob says we always recruit QB’s based on their ability to throw the ball…so it seems to me they have been recruiting QBs that should work in an Air Raid offense. Granted, our QBs don’t seem too great at passing the ball, but that doesn’t change the fact that is what they were recruited to do.

      So I’m not sure how our recruiting would have been different if we were recruiting for an air raid the last three years. Oh…and I’m still not convinced that is what our offense would most resemble if Riley ends up being OC, but that is just my opinion.

      • Jeremy Phillips says:

        We recruited bigger lineman, bigger backs & bigger receivers… The air raid uses smaller/quicker players at every one of those positions…

        • Soonerr says:

          Well I consider Baylor to be an air raid offense (obviously somewhat different than Leach’s system, though). They have big linemen and several types of backs and receivers.

          Bigger linemen just means we won’t be able to run a hurry up all the time. We actually have a variety of receiver and back sizes/skill sets.

        • Soonerr says:

          Oh and West Virginia is another example of bigger linemen used in an air raid offense.

        • ccmosaic says:

          That is not even close to true. Why do people assume you have to have small athletes to run the air raid.? OU had some massive boys on the line when we ran up and down on people. We seem to forget that we ran this offense for years and our past offensive success was and is built on this style of offense.
          I have no idea why people think you can win in the Big 12 with a Arkansas running game? Sure you could win one or two games but you will get your butt handed to you when you play Baylor.

          • Soonerr says:

            I think if you have a great enough defense, you can win the B12 with a power running game. BUT…this is unlikely to be the case most years. So, I agree. My current view for how OU can be successful in the B12 is a great offense with a great pass defense.

          • Jeremy Phillips says:

            Never said anything about Arkansas… Wilson was the best OC we’ve had under Stoops, imo.. We were fast paced but we also got under center, play action, tight end all of that incorporated into the offense that’s just fast break no-huddle, not the same as air raid… if Riley has similar plans to Wilson then I’ll have no problems with that whatsoever.. I just haven’t seen it to this point.. Like i said in another post even his most balanced offense to date was still 60/40 pass…

  • kokevo says:

    Is there going to be a open post today?

  • OUhomer4life says:

    I have said a few times, LR is a air raid disciple, but he has used the run a lot more than most! I think he would fit in well with our athletes, over 500 passes, over 500 rushes ( more than 100 quarterback runs), he has a very balanced attack! I also believe that he has the football IQ to be out play caller!

    • Soonerr says:

      I agree about his football IQ. It’s one of the most exciting things about him.

      • OUhomer4life says:

        He is also a young man with fire, that knows how to develope receivers. We have a lot of receivers that can’t catch the ball!

    • blaster1371 says:

      A summary of him said he used double TE formations too much to be a called a clone of Leach.

      • OUhomer4life says:

        I don’t consider him a clone, I think he is on the verge of being a great OC OU needs to help him!

  • Sooner Ray says:

    Really looking forward to today’s misinformation, speculation, hopes and dreams.

  • Soonerr says:

    Maybe it’s just me, but I wish they would have brought in someone like Riley to help Heupel before he was let go. I think if Heupel would have had better WRs, his play calling would have looked much better.

    That being said, I really think a balanced offense is the way to go. I don’t see Riley as running a balanced offense (and yeah I know some people do think he runs a balanced offense). A lethal combination might be a Mangino type play caller with Riley as Co-OC or passing game coordinator.

    • SCKSChief says:

      Heupel’s problem wasn’t WRs. The OU WRs aren’t “good”, but they are adequate. Heupel’s death knell was his inability to develop a QB…ever.

      • Indy_sooner says:

        And the Meerkat. There, I said it

      • Soonerr says:

        We’ll have to agree to disagree. I saw TK and CT throw the ball away too many times to agree with you. Some people think these QBs are inaccurate. They are, of course, less than ideal in that regard. However, all of our QBs have been coached up not to take sacks….to throw the ball where no one can get it. Sometimes this has led to poor looking throws. I’ve seen announcers and fans criticize TK over horrible throws that I believe were on purpose. Sure, some announcers and fans do realize they are throwing it away sometimes…but I think it happened a lot more than most of us realize.

        • blaster1371 says:

          Dos hat include short hops to open recievers or throwing behind them in the flats? Or how about locking on one reciever? No, the QB position isn’t adequate (obviously) and it’s not going to improve without development. You can’t tell me that the 50% of us completed passes was to avoid a sack. Nope I watched the same games.

          • Soonerr says:

            1.) Short hops to open receivers/behind in the flats – mostly happened early on in TK’s career…or after a break from injury.
            2.) 50% completion percentage – having an open receiver even 2 more times per game and receivers catching catchable balls 2 more times per game would have skewed that to almost 70%.

            Here’s how TK’s year would have looked given what I said.
            68% Louisiana Tech
            74% Tulsa
            73% Tennessee
            69% West Virginia
            51% TCU
            80% Texas
            94% Kansas State
            74% Iowa State
            59% Baylor
            57% Clemson

            69% overall

          • boomersooner says:

            Wow! Nice breakdown. Thanks

          • SCKSChief says:

            Your formula isn’t making sense. Are you saying that IF there were 2 more open WRs per game, he would have had these numbers?

          • Soonerr says:

            No I’m saying if he could have had 4 more total completions a game, this is what his stat sheet would look like. In my scenario, he could have gotten 2 of the 4 completions from WRs being open when he had to throw it away. The other 2 completions could come from WRs catching instead of dropping passes.

            Obviously it’s all conjecture…and I’m assuming he would make the throws to the open receivers. But it just puts things into perspective. If he had better receivers, his stats would have been much better (my original point).

          • SCKSChief says:

            That takes a lot for granted. I mean the guy missed wide open guys all the time. How does adding four more possibilities make his numbers jump so much? Doesn’t add up.

          • Soonerr says:

            Technically it’s two more possibilities and two sure-fire completions (from the receivers merely not dropping balls).

            But, assuming he only completed one of the two possible completions (from at least one receiver being open when he had to throw it away)…and got the 2 sure-fire completions from decent throws being caught that should have been caught…then that would be 3 additional completions per game (instead of 4) and his stats would look like this:

            22-34 65% Louisiana Tech
            24-34 71% Tulsa
            23-33 70% Tennessee
            19-29 66% West Virginia
            17-35 49% TCU
            15-20 75% Texas
            29-32 90% Kansas State
            25-35 71% Iowa State
            15-27 56% Baylor
            20-37 54% Clemson

            209-316 66% Overall

          • SCKSChief says:

            That’s a LOT of “ifs” there.

          • Soonerr says:

            You must watch different games than I do if you think you can’t find 4 incompletions a game that are the result of either throwing the ball away or receivers dropping balls.

          • SCKSChief says:

            And you must surely realize that this is a lesson in futility.

            If OU was Oregon, they’d be in the NC. There. I did it too.

          • SamSooner says:

            Blaster, you make some good points. TK did miss some easy throws. But I have to agree with Blaster. I didn’t see TK throw behind receivers in the flats.

            As for QB development, I don’t buy it. He’s at an elite school. He has elite talent. There are things any player needs to get better at to become elite but all positions should have the basics covered.

            For instance, I’ve never understood someone saying, “well, he’s freshman receiver, he’s going to drop a few.” I’m dumbfounded by that statement. Anyone who’s played football has mastered catching a football by the fifth grade.

            How is it that you forget how to dribble a basketball, throw a baseball, shoot a basketball, throw a football and catch a football just because you’re a freshman?

            Development is more mental than anything. Developing a player is helping them understand the nuances of the game.

          • boomersooner says:

            When talking about freshmen, they are talking about the game slowing down for them more than anything. When you get to a new level, where everybody is the best of the best from the previous level, it takes a little time for the player to get acclimated to the speed of pretty much every single guy and the speed of the game itself. That’s really all they mean. You coach a guy up and get him ready for every possible scenario he will see or might see and then he goes out and does it. Some guys develop quicker, others take all of their young life plus high school plus junior college plus four yr and then some til they finally find that consistency coaches/GM’s/ scouts are looking for. But its so much fun taking the journey and once the light comes on….look out

          • soonermusic says:

            There were instances of short hops to receivers because they either failed to come back for the ball like they were supposed to, or in one key instance, slipped and fell when trying to do so; there were a few throws behind receivers because the receiver turned the wrong way, or at the wrong time. Not saying TK didn’t miss some throws–he did. But many that were called “inaccurate” weren’t. Lot’s of qb’s lock on to receivers, and all college qb’s throw 80 to 90 percent of the time to their first read, from RG III on down (at least according to the qb pundit/expert I heard on the radio, and they always know what they’re talking about…right?). What he was doing in that regard isn’t that unusual, IMHO

        • SamSooner says:

          TK is too amped. He’s always in a rush, it seems. He doesn’t allow his receivers to get open on long developing routes. There were times he threw passes and a split second later I would see Quick, Bell, or someone else streaking free. Then I would see them jumping up and down in frustration.

          Here’s the kicker: sometimes TK wasn’t even being pressured.

          I’m of the opinion that that affected the receivers more. If I’m a receiver and the QB has a quick trigger, and I wan the ball, I shorten my route to hopefully get a pass. If you stop moving, it’s hard to get free again because when you stop, you’ve lost any advantage you had.

          • Soonerr says:

            Now that is a nice critique of a QB I can appreciate. I just get upset when people think all of our QB’s can’t throw an accurate ball to save their lives. There is A LOT more to it than just accuracy.

      • Scott Moore says:

        Ever? I’m assuming you meant when calling plays. On the other hand. Bradford just had it. Probably not a product of Josh’s coaching him up.

      • soonermusic says:

        I suspect we agree to disagree here, but IMHO while TK missed some throws, many if not most of the “inaccurate” throws were due to the receiver being in the wrong place, route spacing, having the wrong timing because the receiver was held (tcu), or other receiver errors. “Adequate” receivers is a good recipe for an 8-5 season. Show me a college qb who is a highly successful passer and I’ll show you a a great receiver or 2 or 3. It is not a coincidence that when Urban Meyer was asked, after the last win, how he could be doing so well with his third string qb, he replied, our qb is only as good as the players around him.

    • Indy_sooner says:

      I think he *would* have to run a balanced play. No way you have the stable of backs we have and sit them. The running game is great.. issue is there has to be a way to stretch field of play with WRs.

      We could not do jack in the air. Doesn’t matter how big your line or how other-worldy the RB core is. You have to be able to consistently throw it out. Fix that, and you make it far easier to obfuscate the plays and run all kinds of plays.

      • Soonerr says:

        If I’m understanding your post right, I think I agree with you. I should have said I don’t view Riley’s ‘system’ as naturally balanced. Bob said he wanted to bring in a guy to run his own system…so that’s why I’m unconvinced Riley would be balanced.

        I do think, to have success next year, we will have to be fairly balanced (which I believe is what you are getting at). Maybe Riley does this because he is smart enough to know its OU’s best chance to win. That’s really the only way I see someone like LR making it past interviews with Bob (who I know is obsessed with offensive efficiency). Bob won’t want to be in a situation like he was with Heupel…where he was be forced to meddle with play calling.

        • curt gomer says:

          Riley is not stupid. If you get a foot of snow and you have a 4×4 and a lambo in the garage your not gonna take the lambo just because you like driving it more than the truck.

          • Easton says:

            So good. Comes down to a critique of the person, rather than a system. If Riley gets hired, lets just go ahead and imagine him being just as bright as the posters on this board. Thus, he probably will do something that fits the program and personnel.

        • Indy_sooner says:

          Gotcha. Agree too. The only reason I am not worried with bringing in an air raid type OC is because Cale is still there. Well that, and Samaje just happened.

          • Jeremy Phillips says:

            I’m not worried about next season.. I’m worried about the ultimate direction.. It will take several recruiting cycles to get the air raid type of players in here again..

    • MoJoOkie says:

      I think Riley runs more of a balance than you might think. His stats at ECU show he progressively got more balanced through his time there.

      • Soonerr says:

        Year: Passes/Rushes (——————-) ##.# Points Per Game

        2014: 637-433 (passed 60% of the time) 35.8 PPG
        2013: 565-463 (passed 55% of the time) 40.2 PPG
        2012: 488-459 (passed 52% of the time) 31.5 PPG
        2011: 524-397 (passed 57% of the time) 26.3 PPG
        2010: 631-359 (passed 64% of the time) 36.8 PPG

        • MoJoOkie says:

          44.5% in the last three years. I’d call that pretty balanced.

          • Soonerr says:

            I was just putting the stats up there for everyone to see…not to prove you incorrect or anything like that. I probably should have said that…sorry!

            FWIW I’m all for going back to an air raid as soon as our passing game allows us to…so I’m not particularly concerned with his long term effect on the program. I was stating that I think we need a balanced offense next year (unless our passing game improves drastically).

          • MoJoOkie says:

            Sorry I misunderstood. I think he (Riley) has shown that he can run balanced, and I agree that not utilizing our stable of running backs would be a major mistake. I also think that a little coaching up will give us viable WR’s and at a reliable QB. You don’t always have to throw deep to stretch the field and keep safeties/LB’s honest.

      • Steve Johns says:

        My post above supports this.

  • Roy C says:

    For us to get Frost, who needs to win tonight. Does an Oregon win get the QB to declare for the pros and help make Frost decide to become a Sooner? Or does a win make him want to stay at Oregon and try for the back to back?

    • curt gomer says:

      I think he goes pro win or lose

    • Soonerr says:

      It’s hard to say. I could see pros and cons for either case. Sadly, it really depends on details none of us are likely to know.

    • Malicong says:

      Mariota has all but said he is going pro. No need for him to stay at Oregon. He already was injured for the last half of last season (although he played, he didn’t play anywhere his normal standard) and anything similar will cost him a bunch. I don’t think Mariota will play into the decision anyway. This is going to be a money and future job issue. Frost has shown he doesn’t hold any prideful loyalty to any paticular school (I am sure he will always be personally in favor of Nebraska though) so why would Oregon be any different?

  • Indy_sooner says:

    Watching my Patriots own the Ravens defense was depressing. Their WR core is filled with a bunch of 3 and 2-Star nobodys but the way they use them makes them look like gods.
    I want someone to use the guys we have to their maximum potential, Tight ends included.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      When I look at the NE rushing attack (or lack thereof), and the mediocre WR core most years, it really makes me think Tom Brady is probably a top 5ish QB in NFL history. The dude can play.

      • Malicong says:

        Maybe even higher than that. He certainly could be in the discussion as GOAT. Brady has shown he can win without the star players at every position and that he can set records when he does have them. I am not a Patriots fan by any measure either. In fact, I pretty much despise them because they seem to always win when my Cowboys can’t get out of their own way.

      • Indy_sooner says:

        Well, he’s had a couple decent go-to guys over the years.. Moss, Welker and now Gronk. Dude can play but they also develop talent very well. Josh McDaniels deserves alot of credit

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    If this truly is the direction we’re going.. Then, imo, we just went backwards…

    • curt gomer says:

      Everyone has a right to there opinion but i bet the same thing was said when OU hired Bob Stoops

      • Jeremy Phillips says:

        I guess maybe from people who had never heard of Bob Stoops..

        • wj says:

          Then apparently you have never heard of Lincoln Riley or read much about him. People are so high on Frost but his two years as OC he has had a system already in place and Mariota as his QB so there is a chance he could be a bust. Riley yes is a disciple of Leachs air raid but if you read more about him he has actually added alot more to his offenses in the way of run and formations also using double TE formations. People need to just calm down some and give some of these guys a chance.

          • OUhomer4life says:

            Thank you!!!!! I have been trying to say this most of the weekend!!! I’m not a Frost supporter.

          • Jeremy Phillips says:

            I actually have.. Even his most neutral offense was still 60/40 pass.. The vast majority of his offense is 4 wide & shotgun..

          • Malicong says:

            There is a chance any of them could be a bust. Riley has done a great job but his offense wasn’t exactly unstoppable. 5 times last year they were held to 28 and under and it wasn’t exactly against top level teams. That only happened twice at OU in 2014. I think people are favoring Frost more for the type of offense and the success at a high level.
            I wouldn’t be upset with Riley, but I personally would rather have Frost.

          • wj says:

            Very true. I honestly would be happy with either one of them. Mainly just saying to say its a step backwards is ridiculous. Also whoever comes in if they are great offensive minds will adjust to what players we have. Also I like Riley because yea you pointed out the he was against lower level competition but its not like he is able to get top level talent at ECU but has still produced.

          • Easton says:

            Yet, his WR corp was/is top five in the country. Justin Hardy is second to none/Amari Cooper.

          • SCKSChief says:

            Hardy = Man

          • wj says:

            Yea Hardy is a beast but how highly recruited was he? It goes to show their ability to coach up players and find those kind of guys.

      • Eric Hoffpauir says:

        The same thing was certainly said when Bob Stoops hired Mike Leach.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      Just b/c a guy ran a certain offense at East Carolina, or where ever, doesn’t mean he can’t adapt or change with his personnel. OU doesn’t need to invent a new offense to be successful. We need to coach up our QB’s, and just get some new excitement on that side of the ball. The offense will be fine. Of that, I’m nearly positive.

  • Scott Moore says:

    That was a lot of trouble to go through for that one trampoline ice flop.

  • Eric Hoffpauir says:

    Chappie looks a lot more like a realistic depiction of how an AI/robot might function in the real world than a Steve Guttenberg comedy vehicle that Short Circuit was.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    I don’t think Hannah Storm wanted to freshen up, very subtle and you have to watch closely.

  • Cory Reedy says:

    What a Freshman season for Optimus Perine. We are lucky to have that kid.

  • Steve Johns says:

    For those worried about Riley and the Air Raid, fellow Brainiac Jdizzle posted this yesterday in the Coaching Search Notes thread.

    It should put to rest and concerns: http://eastcarolina.247sports.com/Article/The-evolution-of-Lincoln-Riley-and-ECUs-offense-30594094

    • Herman Bubbert says:

      Still too unbalanced to suit me.

      • MoJoOkie says:

        55 pass, 45 run too far off eh? lol

      • Steve Johns says:

        I disagree Herman but that’s fine we all have our opinions.

      • SamSooner says:

        Herman, in my opinion, balance isn’t always an equal ratio of run pass. I think balance is what is created from on the field performance: in other words, team performance, down and distance, always gives the OC the option to run or pass. Imagine the stress that has on a defense.

      • Thomas Lenard says:

        Also People are not taking into consideration in that ratio: passes to RBs. That seems to be something OU faithful have forgot about the last 3-4 years.
        Riley seems to know about it though.

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      Indeed. Watching a few games last year, I didn’t see the trademark Airraid. There might be some of the same passing plays, however.

  • Mr. Jones says:

    Antoine Stephens tweeted last night that a commitment iscoming soon. Any firm date on that?

    • hOUligan says:

      No firm date but TFB said ‘in-home’ with the coaches Thur night at end of dead period 15th and he visits campus this weekend.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Wouldn’t be surprised if it happens this coming weekend.

  • dallassooner says:

    Frost is the dream hire and flipping Kyler Murray (since Oregon finished second behind A&M) then we have Kyler Murray and our stable of RB’s to help run Oregon offense.

    But in reality like everyone is saying it’s a combo of a couple guys. I’m interested in a new start if nothing else. Fresh set of eyes looking at players and coming up with what we can do to best make them successful.

    • SCKSChief says:

      I’m still holding onto the dream of Frost/Riley. Give Frost some sort of Assoc HC/OC title and give Riley a Co OC title.

      • soonerthunder says:

        don’t see that ever happening. one would have to give up the playcalling duties since only one coach is the playcaller. neither one ever plans to give that up unless they become HC. It won’t be Frost AND Riley.

        • dallassooner says:

          Lincoln has been at East Carolina for a couple years now. He might be wanting to get to a Power 5 conference and it would definitley depend on how much say he has in the passing game. There are a lot of CO coordinators these days.

          • soonerthunder says:

            He turned down the SEC a month ago. There’s only one play caller per game and neither Riley nor Frost will go to a school as a OC w/o being the playcaller. None of them cares a hoot about whether they are “Co” or not, but they do care whether they call plays or not, until they become HC; then they might give up the playcalling (e.g., Gundy)

          • SCKSChief says:

            Could be a wants in the Power 5 in addition to the fact that a move up could be sooner than later should Bob decide to retire or move on to the NFL…especially if that’s how it’s sold to Frost to get him to Norman.

      • hOUligan says:

        On the surface, two very different approaches. QB option game vs spread passing game. Would be an interesting combo IF you could get the right QB. Just do not feel like Bob wants his QB running option football. Think Riley/Cumbie is what we will end up with.

    • John Garner says:

      Frost at OC. Wyatt at WR. Perfect.

  • WilliamJack says:

    According to the Daily Oklahoman from News 9.com, Lincoln Riley from ECU is the OC hire.
    http://www.news9.com/story/27822934/breaking-news-oklahoma-to-name-lincoln-riley-offensive-coordinator

  • SavageSoonerEsq says:

    So did Dean Blevins ever state where he heard the rumor re: Riley? How about Mayfield and Stoops? How many times can this hack just blatantly lie and get away with it? If he’s not lying, how about at least a retraction?

    • Jed says:

      You have to understand the relationship of the OU faithful to Dean. It is much akin to the way many traditional families dealt with profound mental disease. ‘Uncle Ted’ or whoever would be allowed to babble on about how he was Napoleon or his obsession du jour for a while and then would be quietly taken back upstairs and locked in his room when it was time for the rest of the family to have dinner.
      Thus we deal with Deano. 99 times out of 75 he’s wrong, but we listen politely then return to adult conversation. Not that he can’t be right, but when he is, it’s a random chance event.
      He was a legend, back in the day, and needs the job and it’s just nicer to humor him. Don’t take him seriously. No one else does.

      • SavageSoonerEsq says:

        That’s pretty funny, and I get all of that, trust me. And I’m usually the first to laugh it off, and maybe it’s my lack of sleep lately. However, his incorrect statements could potentially be very harmful for some of the people and/or institutions that are either directly or indirectly connected to his statements.

        I like listening to him and his interviews and appreciate his contributions to and for OU. Regardless, I think it’s time for some accountability.

      • SamSooner says:

        Well, that was funny about Uncle Ted.

        Seriously, this is too blatant. How can he continue to miss this big and keep his job. That’s irresponsible journalism.

        Now, my gut tells me this is encouraged. It could very well be the culture at News 9: take a chance to get the big scoop.

      • RonTee says:

        Now it all makes sense, I am “Uncle Ted”

      • Mizuno44 says:

        Agree, does anyone take any local, TV media types serious? I’ve ran into many of them publicly, immediately think, “oh, it’s so and so”, then even more immediately think, “pshhhh”, ala Ed Bassmaster.

        • Jed says:

          I got to watch Tulsa Channel 2’s Al ‘The Jerk’ Jerkins make an ass out of himself at the airport once. Literally, trying to upgrade and actually saying, “Do you know who I am?” Happily the check-in agent said, “Yes” and still refused his upgrade.

  • BigJoeBrown says:

    In regards to who ever is hired, I want to see development. There may be some disappointment if there isn’t some big name, which I understand. But ultimately can the guy develop a sound offense, whether a running, high pace, air attack or whatever…the question is, can they do it well?

    We saw no development from our recievers nor qb’s, which is a major issue. I really don’t know perhaps the air attack works, or the running i-formation works? I think it just depends on how well you can implement the system with the players you have.

  • OUhound says:

    Well, Oklahoma Daily sure didn’t pull any punches. Funny part is, they hit the nail on the head!!!! Watch out OU Daily writers, freedom of speech is coming under serious attack.

  • BigJoeBrown says:

    What Rick Moranis did with the Little Giants is something we shouldn’t forget about.

  • lebval15 says:

    I’m one of the people that has been calling for an upcoming young OC and not an old Stoops retread. Riley seems to fit that. He’s not Frost, but I’m willing to give him a chance.

  • OUhound says:

    Still think that if Frost feels he can become heir apparent at OU in a few years coupled with a mm+ salary, he will entertain an offer.

  • lebval15 says:

    On an unrelated recruiting note, Butch Jones and Tennessee have given out 81 scholarships in the past 3 years. I assume not all of those guys made it to campus, but if they did wouldn’t that leave him with a max class of 4 for next year? I get that you can count some guys for the year before and manipulate it that way, but they’ve had full classes every year even before that so there’s nowhere to push them back to.

    • Steve Johns says:

      Grey Shirting is the SECs best friend.

    • Malicong says:

      I was looking at that this morning as well. Not sure how they are getting around it, but I imagine there are a lot of kids that didn’t attend UT very long and a good portion of them may not have left voluntarily (pun a coincidence). They did have small classes in 2013 and 2012 but even last year there was talk about getting creative to fit that class under the scholly limit and now then this year they are already back at 28.

  • soonerbred4ever says:

    I just saw Andrew Luck on the tube. Am the only one who thinks he looks like he should be on the no fly list?

  • hOUligan says:

    Many saying why fire JH just to pick up another apple from the Pirate tree? Maybe Riley calls a better game, which was the biggest knock against JH? And QB development? If it turns out to be Riley, hopefully he will work with Gundy to take advantage of the riches he will have at RB. Betting he will. Perine can catch and move in space and some saying Mixon catches well enough to be at WR. Could be a great match-up with a talented WR coach.

  • Zack says:

    Jordan I didn’t know you were a walking dead fan. I took you as more of a GOT fan.

  • Josh says:

    Hey btw… Dez caught that ball.

  • normanite says:

    What makes it easier for Frost to leave: an Oregon win or loss tonight?

  • Mizuno44 says:

    Jordan, any update on the Josh Smith situation?

  • Waters says:

    Speculation Based On Deductive Analysis:
    1. S F will be named O C after the CFB Championship Game
    2. Riley, Cumbie, etc. are distractions to take attention from from SF for obvious reasons.
    3. The second offensive position coach will be decided by agreement of BS and SF.
    4. This is consistent with BS actions, requirements, and public statements.
    5. Read previous posts for more detail.
    6. OU adoption and perfection of the Oregon offense will start a new era of OU football
    7. This is speculation on my part based on the above until validated tomorrow.

  • Maverick says:

    Anything new on Justin Reid? I noticed two 247 guys are predicting Stanford now.

  • Jeff says:

    The Top 10 Most Valuable College Football Programs, Per Brewer’s Study

    1. Ohio State — $1,127,580,000
    2. Michigan — $999,130,000
    3. Texas — $972,110,000
    4. Notre Dame — $936,380,000
    5. Florida — $815,420,000
    6. Oklahoma — $776,540,000
    7. Alabama — $760,550,000
    8. Georgia — $710,900,000
    9. LSU — $659,180,000
    10. Nebraska — $536,000,000