OU vs. West Virginia – What I’ll Be Watching

You may have forgotten what he looked like, but that’s a picture of Dimitri Flowers and it’s via ESPN

* Soft coverages – This is something that, in my opinion, Mike & Bob have always done and something I’ve always hated. If it’s 3rd & 12, I get playing your CBs 5-7 yards off. You’re obviously keeping your man in front of you and simply defending the first down marker. However, when it’s 3rd & 4 and you’re playing seven yards off then at the snap immediately go into your backpedal….well, this makes absolutely no sense to me. And that’s what I saw on one particular play from Julian Wilson in the Tennessee game, which lead directly to one of the easier third down conversions you’ll ever see.

If you’re playing off and allowing the WRs a free release against this West Virginia offense, let alone with a QB playing as well as Clint Trickett is right now, you’re just asking to get picked apart. OU’s pass rush is really, really good, maybe even great, but you’re not going to be able to rely on just that Saturday night in Morgantown. Get up close to the line, bump WVU’s receivers, throw off their timing on those short, quick routes Holgo loves to run so much.

Mike knows this. Mike will have a plan. Not to mention a monumental chip on his shoulder considering the way his defense played last time they came to town.

* Trickett’s dome – It really is a magnificent head of hair.

* OU’s offensive line – Look, if they’re going to be facing seven and eight man fronts every week from here on out then maybe I need to readjust my expectations for their ability to dominate the line of scrimmage. But I’d be lying, even making the concession that the Vols loaded the box all night last Saturday, if I said I wasn’t disappointed in OU’s ability, or lack thereof, to move the ball on the ground in that game. And even allowing for the ‘loaded box’ theory with the size OU has all along that o-line, why weren’t they able to simply wear out Tennessee’s front seven (or eight) until what seemed like pretty late into the fourth quarter?

I know, I know…S-E-C, but still.

If teams are will to sacrifice an extra man or two in coverage, then it’s obviously up to Trevor Knight and company to make them pay for that. And with 300+ yards passing you’d have thought he/they did exactly that last Saturday, yet the Vols never really adjusted their defensive approach.

I still think Ty Darlington can struggle at times and I still firmly believe match-up with Texas’ Malcom Brown is going to be an absolute nightmare. But WVU doesn’t have anyone like that, so even with Keith Ford out I think OU should be able to run the ball. But it’s going to be a challenge as it appears every OU opponent is going to approach games with the philosophy of loading the box and making Knight beat you with his arm.

* Samaje Perine – Perhaps stating the obvious a bit here, but I think this is a chance for Perine to really separate himself from Alex Ross as the No. 2 back after Ford returns from his injury. Outside of that one long run against Tulsa, I really haven’t been that impressed with Ross running the football. I think he’s a beast if he has a lane and there is no one in front of him, but if there’s even one defender it’s like he just tries to lower his shoulder and run the guy over. Rarely do I feel like I can remember him trying to make a move to get around a guy (short of just trying to turn on the burners to get the corner) or spin off a tackle like we’ve seen Ford do multiple times already in these first three games.

I think Perine has been much more effective running the ball and is just as capable a receiver as Ford and Ross. If he can come out and punish people while moving the ball consistently, I see no reason to believe Cale Gundy wouldn’t move him ahead of Ross.

And, to be fair, maybe Ross comes out and has a huge game himself. I’d be all for it. I’m not necessarily rooting for one guy over the other. I don’t particularly care who is running the ball so long as they’re successful. If they both have great games Saturday night all the better. I’m simply saying from what I’ve seen thus far, Perine looks like the more effective runner of the two.

* Josh Heupel – I make one comment about what I felt were some questionable play calls and next thing I know everyone is jumping down my throat. I mean you’re really going to tell me you were okay with that sequence on fourth down where OU calls a timeout, then Tennessee calls a timeout, then OU calls another timeout only to come out of said timeout and try to run some gadget play and failing to convert?

Yes, I’ve had my issues (and, yes, no one really cares nor does my opinion matter in the slightest) with Heupel and his play-calling in the past. But up until maybe a handful of instances (at best) last Saturday, he’s done as good a job as OU’s play-caller as anyone could have asked for, at least as far as I’m concerned.

I think this was a simple blip on the radar of an otherwise excellent job done. But I do think he has a tendency, at times, to really over-think things and try to call the perfect play. He has enough talent at his disposal he should just be able to relax and let the players do what they do.

* Dimitri Flowers – This one really isn’t all that complicated. I’d like to see them get him more involved in the offense. I know he’s a true freshman and we’re only three games into the season, but I really don’t want this to turn into another Trey Millard criminally underused situation.

* Ahmad Thomas – I thought this past Saturday was the first really noticeable sign of struggles we saw from OU’s first year starting safety. And it wasn’t just that one play for the long(ish) touchdown where he got completely lost in coverage. Which is not in any way to say he’ll be unable to overcome it, but you can rest assured Holgo saw that on film and will look to try and exploit whatever weaknesses he perceives there to be in this OU secondary.

* Sterling Shepard on punt returns – Is it just me or does it look like at times he’s not even looking to make a return? Has he been told to just make the fair catch and let the offense take over? I feel like I saw him and/or the coaches admit as much this week and I’m just not sure I follow the logic here. Why voluntarily give up potential field position and hamstring a dynamic return guy? Because he’s so vitally important to the offense and you don’t want to risk him suffering an injury on special teams?

Then why is he out there in the first place?

* Jed Barnett – I feel like I’ve mentioned this before, either here or elsewhere on TFB. But just as I expected, and maybe I’m alone on this, Barnett, to me, has been really inconsistent so far this season. He seems really slow to actually get the punt off and almost had one blocked against Tennessee. And it seems like whenever they have a chance to pin someone deep, he’ll unintentionally pooch it short or boot it through the back of the end zone. Although complaining about it, or whatever you consider this to be, is pointless. OU isn’t going to make a change.

I’m sure at least some of you are saying ‘My word, man. Over-analyze things a little more why don’t you, it’s just the punter.’ And you have a valid argument. I just don’t like not knowing what’s going to happen at that position when you send the guy out onto the field.

It’s nothing personal Jed, but I miss Tress Way.

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What will you be watching for Saturday night?

75 Comments

  • Easton says:

    I’ll be watching the middle of the field, where WV will surely aim on lots of quick routes, posts, seam patterns. I hope to see a Stoops solution to the middle field pass game on D.

  • Ed Cotter says:

    I’ll be watching to see how the back end of the defense holds up to all the quick passes the WVU offense will be making and how the LBs do in pass coverage. Should be a fun chess match between Holgy and Mike.

  • cpearc00 says:

    I’d like to see some other receivers, such as Quick or Mead, get in on the action.

  • Tucker says:

    Valid point with Jed.
    I agree with your comment about Heupel’s play calling. I have been unimpressed with his ability as “the” offensive coordinator. It wasn’t until Norvell gained the label “CO” Offensive coordinator that we started to see significant change to play calling and offensive scheme… to include the Sugar Bowl.
    Maybe I’m completely off and everyone can just take it as my opinion.
    I just feel that Heupel sticks too much to gameplan and doesn’t always account for contingency.

  • Billy Jackson says:

    The young secondary is what makes an early matchup with WVa. a bit scary. I’m sure they’ll continue to improve, but I agree about Holgerson and his desire to exploit the safeties.

    I also worry about Sanchez and his ability to tackle. No question about his ball hawking skills, but with a bad shoulder, and his unwillingness to wrap guys up, a no-gain/short gain, could keep the Mountaineers on the field for another series or two, if he just plans on spearing the opponent and bouncing off of him.

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    I think perine(running game in general) is a big deal this week & also 3rd down.. We need to be close to 50%, hasn’t hurt us yet but it will this week. 4th qrtr will be a track meet if we don’t possess the ball as much as possible in the first 3qrtrs…

    • soonerinks says:

      I agree. I have not been real impressed yet with our running game. I was kind of disappointed with our OL not being able to consistantly move Tenn young DL out on a consistent basis. We ended up in a lot of 3rd and long and converted on very few. I expected much more out of our RB’s then what we have seen so far, but the season is still young and they certainly have a lot of potential. Not a lot of starts there, so there is still plenty of room for optimism. Perine could very well just take the starter position and never give it back.

  • HoustonChiver says:

    Thoughts on Michiah Quick becoming an epic punt returner? His last name is Quick for God’s sake!

  • EasTex says:

    I’ll be watching to see if Trickett has OU related PTSD.

  • Andrew says:

    I want to see Trevor Knight run the read option like it is supposed to be ran. If he runs the read option correctly, then play action opens up and it could be embarrassing for WVU.

  • soonerinks says:

    Special teams seems to be beauty and the beast. Money on field goals and extra points is very, very good. Kickoffs and coverage is also very good. Punting is feast or famine, you never know what it’s going to be. I thought Tenn came very close to blocking at least 2 punts. Rushing the other teams punter, don’t even get me started there as it is a pet peeve of mine. /
    We allow their punter all the time in the world to get off a booming punt with no worries about the rush coming and then we seem to be in safe mode on punt returns with no desire to try to return a punt. There were at least 2 punts in the Tenn game where there was significant room to attempt a return. Not sure if that is by design or just hesitance on Shepherd’s part. I kind of lean to the we are in safe mode where we don’t want to make a mistake.

  • Super Keith says:

    Regarding “Soft Coverage”: I think that is a common feeling among fans, however, there is a method to the madness. First, coaches and players watch a ton of film on the opponent, and pick up on tendencies. It’s very possible (and probable) that Tennessee had shown that similar set and thrown deep. Mike Stoops is very good at coaching our DBs to defend the double move, and regardless of the down and distance, if you’re on press coverage, you’re much more susceptible to getting beat on a double move.

    There’s also a reason to do it if you’re bringing pressure. It could be one, or all of those reasons why you see the soft coverage, but it’s not because Stoops wants to give up an easy play.

    • Super K says:

      I’ve always felt that it’s actually easier for most DBs to play up on a man if they know how to use their feet. What OU DBs show a weakness in is their ability to keep their feet moving while they use their hands. Changing direction in space can be a lot harder than mirroring a receiver up tight. Having said that it’s pretty standard to have tighter coverage to the boundary and off coverage to the field but a lot of it is contingent on the down and distance. What I’d like to see change is more awareness of the down and distance and pressure. No need to play off 8 yards off on a 3rd and short to the boundary. And some point you’ve got to trust the athleticism of your cover guys and surely trust the ability of your d to get pressure. In general though you’re right coach Mike seems to like to show pressure and then play off or bail (in zone) at the last second.

      • Super Keith says:

        I’ve never played DB, so all of my knowledge is from learning via coaching. For instance, I never realized it was easier for a DB to play up, I’ve always assumed it would be easier to give a cushion…so, you’ve educated me today K!

        You’re right, at some point, you have to trust the guys you have on the field, and I do think that’ll happen more and more. For the Tennessee game, I was actually surprised by how conservative we played (overall) on defense. I don’t know if it was something they saw on film, or just because Mike wanted to keep the gameplan simple, but I think that had a lot to do with the soft coverage we saw.

        Good stuff K!

      • Exiled In Ohio says:

        It appears to me that Mike likes a “bend don’t break” defense. Prevent the big play and play sound defense. Bet that most offenses won’t be able to string together 4-5 first downs. The game is decided by points, not yardage. But I agree this philosophy doesn’t involve playing off on 3rd and 4.

  • Kody K. says:

    I really liked your observations Jordan. And yea, the punt team needs to improve.

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    Tackling, overall we’ve been a much better tackling team this year.. We will have to make lots of tackles in space this week.. I worry about Sanchez there & hope he stays fundamental, doesn’t get lazy…

  • D'Pez Poopsie says:

    we have to get some hits in on Trickett early. I’m also going to watch our safety play, that’ll be key against a big guy like White. Sanchez won’t be able to hold up all game against him and Wilson will need a little help too. Need our safeties in headhunter mode Saturday night.

  • boomersooner says:

    i’ll be watching the pollsters. after we deuce all over wv and auburn wins on last second field goal, they will jump us like we didn’t exist

    • j l says:

      wont happen. MASSIVE gap between the top 4 and auburn. We got almost a 100 point lead in the AP poll on them.
      if we beat WVU by 10 or more, you should see us jump the tide. We wont, but thats what should happen.

      • boomersooner says:

        i would almost put $ on auburn jumps us before we jump bama…in any week of any season.
        and IF fla beats em, uf will be around 13th and miss st beats lsu, msu will be around 14th, while the two they beat will move maybe 3 or 4 spots. you can’t have it both ways.
        i’ve just never understood polls and pollsters and the like. you don’t go from unranked to middle of the top 25 in a week, no matter who you played, beat, etc. you don’t go from 24th to 4th in a week. it just shouldn’t happen, but people fall for it every week. it says more about how much of a joke your poll is than about the teams that are moving around in it.at

        that’s my long winded version that you didn’t ask for but you got anyway…free of charge

        • JJsooner1 says:

          Couldn’t agree more boom.

        • j l says:

          im not so sure man, the media are really feeling us right now, and they have softened on the tide.
          IF we can put a whoopin on WVU, we might make the leap.
          What you describe is pretty accurate though. Its why its impossible for the SEC to ever look bad in the polls.
          even when 1 SEC team beats another, they somehow end up with a net gain in the polls. Its infuriating.

          • boomersooner says:

            haha. infuriating starts to put a finger on it

          • j l says:

            the best way ive come up with to describe the SEC is, self fulfilling prophecy.

            Keep shoving enough high rankings on them, and eventually someone will make it to a title game. Its basically inevitable.

          • boomersooner says:

            so you’re saying that the pollsters are just trying to polish a turd? nice, i like that analogy. thank you for clearing this up for me

          • j l says:

            I think the SEC has some fine teams, but they certainly get some extra fluffing from the pollsters, thats for sure.

            Ole miss a top 10 team? oh hell no lol.

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      Matters not if we take care of business. SEC won’t have 2 undefeated teams; maybe not any.

      • boomersooner says:

        completely understand. just very frustrating and infuriating when no matter what, there is a conference that gets built in excuses and multiple chances. i don’t feel like doing the research, but its pretty difficult to go undefeated, no matter who you play. and i’ll be damned if someone would look me in the face and say that “team x” is as good as or better than us because they played 7 top 15 teams or whatever, when the polls are juiced(yes i do understand that the polls don’t matter and this committee is supposed to be awesome…we’ll see)

  • Zack says:

    I want to see if we use perine for 20-25 touches if he will go over 200 yards. He’s been effective enough to where I expect big runs with the extra 10-15 touches he will receive.

  • Eric Tauriainen says:

    I’d like to see our TE’s and H-backs get (more) involved in passing game just over the the LB’s. More play action/rollouts from Trevor, and how about just a handful of some stinkin’ misdirection plays/counters off of our regular plays!!! Just one would have me jumping out of my seat cheering like crazy.

  • Cory Reedy says:

    Of course you miss Tress…he’s kicking in the NFL! : )

  • Cory Reedy says:

    If we can get on them early and shut down their running game…Trickett may not finish the game. If OUr guys get to pin their ears back…good luck to Trickett. I don’t think he’s as tough as Worley from Tennessee.

  • JJsooner1 says:

    Ok, maybe a dumb question here………with regard to WV’s penchant for those short timing passes over the middle……would it be a help or hindrance to start a safety at MLB? With speed and tackling and coverage skills and the near lack of a running game for WV, don’t you get an edge there? Why or why not?

  • Matthew Wesley says:

    I’ll be watching for counters, sweeps, and tosses to Ross to try and get him in space while sticking with the run game.

    • JJsooner1 says:

      I agree but why would you not put him in the slot??

      • Boom says:

        Because he is a RB, not a WR. Do a wheel route but not in the red zone. Or, let him do a seam out of the diamond.

        • boomersooner says:

          mccluster gets split out all the time, pretty sure fred jackson and spiller do too from time to time. lot of dynamic rb’s can split out

        • JJsooner1 says:

          I totally agree but his style is more like a receiver, he’s got good hands and can run away from people. He’s a straight-line speed guy with size. Just MHO.

  • Super Keith says:

    Offensively, WVU loves to use screens. This could be interesting, as Tennessee had a little success with that Saturday.

    Fortunately, we’re able to get pressure without committing extra guys, so we should be able to counter it effectively…but, it wouldn’t surprise me to see WVU pop a few screens this week…they’re hard enough to defend for normal defenses, and can be really tough for aggressive ones.

  • soonermusic says:

    Definitely looking to see how the run game goes. Do the backs progress in terms of what we’ve seen and feel they need to improve at. Does the line play and related play calling adapt to the loaded box that B. Stoops says we can expect to see every game.

    Will they change the number of “predetermined read” plays and substitute some genuine reads.

    How will the secondary deal with a much better overall offense than we’ve seen before.

    Also, how will the team respond to it’s first real road game. As we know from years past, this can be a non-issue, or it can be a very big deal, seeming to overshadow everything else.

    The Shepard thing was explained by Shep and Stoops. He needs to get better at judging the effect that the wind, even minimal, etc can have on whether a punt is gonna be returnable or not. He was disappointed in himself for not attempting to return the couple referred to, and Stoops agreed that he needed to return those. Both seem to think this is easily corrected with a bit more experience.

    “Trey Millard criminally underused”… come on dude, you’re not really dragging that one out again are you? lol ok. your game has been so strong this season I’m gonna give you a pass on that one.

    Agree on Barnett. He’s doing the job, but so far nothing special, and we really do want something special in that spot. Hoping he gets it together. I read about a guy named Steele in the wings a while back, but they brought in Barnett for a reason, obviously. I’m a bit concerned that no one else seems to be on the recruiting horizon.

  • Steven says:

    Barnett is inconsistent, but I think he can still be a great tool for us. I remember him playing a huge role in Bedlam last year with some absolutely fantastic punts. I love Tress Way as much as anyone else, believe me, but I think it’s unfair to compare Barnett to him without remembering that Way was also inconsistent at times.

    Long story short, we have a good Special Teams coordinator now who will hopefully get the group back to firing on all pistons now that we’re reaching conference play.

  • OUknowitscomin says:

    Run game……Perine. With that, everything else falls in place. Besides that, either KJ stepping up or Quick to finally get some calls and break loose in secondary. I think the slot will be key regardless. I loved when they were even lining up Bell in slot last week, that’s got some serious potential. He could very well have a huge day.
    On D…I think we’ll be fine. Striker really stepped up in dropping into coverage and I just watched game again last night……EVANS….is just ridiculous with his speed. There were so many plays I was impressed with him, whether dropping back in coverage, tipping ball on pick 6, chasing down Tenn WR or RB on sideline when he was way out in clear. Didn’t get to catch it all live at game, but I’m seriously excited about Jordan. I think he’s going to take away a lot of YAC & cover well on seam routes. I look for him to have some signature hits.

  • JJsooner1 says:

    This Saturday is not 11/17/2012. WV passed and ran very well. Remember Geno Smith, Bailey,Buie, Austin?? This year, they are still balanced(in attempts) but way more efficient throwing the ball than running. Conversely we didn’t run very well and got just over a buck for the game (31 for 108 & 48 of that on one play). This D was built for this type of team in WV, Taco Tech, OSU etc. Coach Mike will show some stuff none of us have seen. That’s him and he’s really good at that.

    Offensively if we aren’t diverse and get Bell, Perine, Flowers and KJ involved, put Ross in space(not the backfield) we’re in for a long day. That may be stating the obvious, but its absolute truth.

    According to stats……OU should win by 14 after giving 3 for home field. Just MHO. Feel free to disagree. I’m learning:-)

  • Fear the Magic says:

    I’ll be looking to see Bell and Flowers get more involved and hopefully either Neal or Young establish themself as a solid weapon that will take some pressure off of Sterling.

  • Jamie Chalk says:

    Jordan I agree with you on heupels play calling in the 2nd half sucked! It’s seems sometimes he is stubborn and runs the same dang plays that get very few yards. His play calling is very predictable a lot of the time. Why can’t he call a game like the Alabama every game? In my humble opinion he needs to be more aggressive, and less predictable. I also understand we have been pretty vanilla the first few games, hopefully that changes

  • Doobie74OU says:

    Dimitri Flowers is a tough one for me. He has the misfortune to be at OU when they have 2-3 very good or great tailbacks. It is hard to take the ball out of one of their hands to give it to him on a carry and they are all excellent pass receivers as well. I believe he will get chances but with all the talent in the backfield it probably won’t be as much as we would like to see! on punters I have a always heard you really need to be one of two things to be a descent punter. Either (1) You punt it Quick or (2) You punt it Far. Now the great ones do both! But to keep your job you better do one of the two! Nobody needs a slow short punt!!!

    • JJsooner1 says:

      Doob, I agree but don’t you have to give him some game time and see how he performs?

      • Doobie74OU says:

        Yeah I definitely think he needs to play and get experience because he is a super talented FB, but he is roughly the same size as Perine, however he runs a 4.83 40 yard dash and Perine runs a 4.45. Perine is just as powerful a runner and probably as good a receiver. Flowers is a great Blocker/H-Back and we need to see what else he can do for sure but everything else being equal he is the 5th best option to hand the ball to if you include Knight and his running ability and the 4th best receiving option out of the backfield.

        • boomersooner says:

          but that’s what dc’s will think too. i think he is one of those forgotten guys that, if used correctly(sparingly), can devastate defenses. if millard was used more, would he have had same avgs and whatnot? who knows, but what we do know is that when the ball was in his hands, something good was happening

    • soonerthunder says:

      punt it into their players and recover the ball like TN did with us (joking, of course).

  • anron4581 says:

    Soft coverage makes no sense to me, especially when you are getting after the QB as much as we seem to.Steel doesn’t break, get up there and slap those wide receivers around and don’t give an inch.

  • ToatsMcGoats says:

    I said something similar about Shep in the return game in last week’s game thread. Why not give Quick, or someone else a shot? Fair catching the punt when there isn’t a guy within 15 yards is just frustrating for everyone…

    • soonermusic says:

      Ball security is paramount on punts, As long a Shepard is available, I’d be surprised to see an untested freshman back there unless it was garbage time.

      • ToatsMcGoats says:

        Field position matters as well. I just don’t understand why he isn’t trying to get any returns. If it’s because they’re afraid he’ll be injured, than I agree that someone else should be back there. Whomever it may be.

  • Boomer4life says:

    I’ll be watching from stands! Go Sooners!