Open Post | Weekend Jan. 16th – 18th (UPDATE Sun., 5:03 pm)

Happy Friday!

PJ Mbanasor: Had a chance to catch up with the OU commit this week, who said he’s expecting Mike Stoops, Jerry Montgomery, and Chip Viney to be by to visit him today.

Antoine Stephens: As we shared with you earlier, Oklahoma had an in-home visit last night with 2015 DB, Antoine Stephens. Bob Stoops, Jay Boulware, Montgomery, and Viney were all in attendance. Once the OU staff left, Miss. State stopped in, followed by Texas Tech. We’ve been told that Texas will likely lose two of their currently committed out-of-state DBs to Auburn, so don’t be surprised to see Texas turn up the heat, as they have been recruiting Stephens for a while.

We spoke to Stephen’s coach about the in-home visit (he was in attendance) with the OU coaches and he said, “it couldn’t have gone better…Antoine was smiling ear-t0-ear.” He also said the OU coaches made it clear to Antoine that, “we want you, and we need you.” And the fact is that once Antoine’s qualifying test score came back at the end of December, OU was one of the first schools to offer. So they’ve been demonstrating the proof of that statement. Additionally, Antoine and his family were impressed that no less than four coaches came to the house, including the head man himself.

Stephens will be in Norman this weekend and hopefully the Sooners will get a “Boom.” As most of you know, Antoine had planned on committing yesterday, but his family felt it would be best if he pushed the date back and continue to evaluate his options.

Also, thought y’all might like this side note, Stephen’s coach said that Antoine’s uncle is a huge OU fan. He said, “his uncle was over there talking to coach Stoops about OU history…old players, old games…he (Stephen’s uncle) knew everything about OU.”

Arthur McGinnis: For the first time yesterday we heard Tim Kish’s name on the recruiting trail. Coach Kish was in Louisiana and went by to visited 2015 LB Arthur McGinnis. We are told that the visit went well and McGinnis confirmed his visit schedule last night. He shared with us he will be at Arizona this coming weekend, followed by Texas Tech, and will take his final visit to Norman on the last weekend before Signing Day.

Dwaine Thomas: We also caught up with Dwaine Thomas who let us know that Kish had come by to see him as well. We were told Kish came by and pulled Thomas’ transcript, however, no offer was extended (Thomas is qualified, by the way). Texas Tech also came by to visit, and Thomas has a visit set up with them for next weekend. Thomas has plans to be in College Station this weekend. Although OU continues to talk to Thomas, it sounds like he may not be willing to wait on the Sooners much longer.

Nate Dalton: Nate Dalton released his Top 6 earlier this week which included: OU, Arkansas, Michigan, Liberty, Army & Kentucky. Nate said he’s planning to visit Arkansas this weekend. He also told us that he plans on taking a trip to Michigan as well, but has not decided on a date just yet. But with only two visit weekends remaining prior to NSD, after this coming weekend there isn’t much time to waste.

We still get the impression in talking to Nate that OU is in good shape, but we’ll get a better idea of where things stand after he visits Fayetteville this weekend. We’ve talked to an Arkansas insider who told us the Razorbacks are willing to wait on Nate and are holding a spot specifically for him.

Defensive Back Numbers: We’ve been trying to figure out just how many more DB’s OU is willing to take and in asking around, we get the impression that as of right now they feel they can take two more safeties and two more cornerbacks. We were also told, however, that this is subject to change as they continue to re-evaluate their board going into NSD.

Their remaining targets are Darreyl Patterson (visiting this weekend), Antoine Stephens (visiting this weekend), Justin Reid (already visited), Nate Dalton (already visited), and Kareem Orr (already visited…will be visiting Arizona State this weekend).

Riley and Gundy: New OU offensive coordinator, Lincoln Riley, was out recruiting for the first time yesterday and was joined by Cale Gundy. We’ve been told they visited a number of guys including, but not limited to: JUCO WR, Dominique Reed, WR Van Jefferson (who said he really liked Riley) and QB target Kyler Murray.

Maea Teuhema: Don’t have a ton of information from the big 2015 offensive lineman, but he did tell us that Oklahoma came by to visit him yesterday. It sounds like Bill Bedenbaugh is going to recruit him right up until the end.

Greg Eisworth: Mike Stoops was also back on the recruiting trail yesterday. He stopped by South Grand Prairie and offered 2016 ATH, Greg Eisworth. And while Eisworth does play some QB for his high school, we’ve been told his OU offer is as a safety.

Stoops also went to see 2017 DB Jeffery Okudah, who, as far as we’re concerned, will be one of the top players in the nation in the 2017 class. Eisworth and Okudah were both told they’d be welcome at OU’s ‘invite only’ Junior Days. Eisworth indicated to us that he’d like to go as long as he can get transportation. Okudah said he’d like to go as well, but wants to make sure that an offer will happen (and it should…he’s unreal).

Changes: Wanted to add quick note about coaching changes. More and more we get the impression that additional changes likely won’t happen until after NSD. We are told that even the DB coaching hire could be delayed until after Signing Day. But we continue to hear that OU wants a ‘big name’ candidate for that spot (which isn’t to say they don’t want the same in a WR coach, but we’ve just heard more talk specific to a new DB coach).

Again, as mentioned yesterday, these changes aren’t cosmetic. They are about one thing and one thing only…getting Oklahoma back to competing for national championships.

Weekend Visitors: We’ll continue working to make sure these are all still a go, but as of right now here is who we’re expecting OU to be hosting this weekend: DE Daishon Neal (Nebraska commit), DB Antoine Stephens, DB Darreyl Patterson, WR Van Jefferson (Georgia commit), JUCO WR Dominique Reed (<–update), K/P Austin Seibert (OU commit), ATH Dalton Wood (OU commit) & S Will Sunderland (OU commit). Obviously, we’ll update the list, as needed, throughout the weekend.

– UPDATE (Fri., 8:45 am): OU TE/SP coach making reference to OU commit Kahlil Haughton.

– UPDATE (Fri., 10:32 am): Stoops & Bedenbaugh visiting with OU commit, Dominique Hearne.

– UPDATE (Fri., 10:40 am): Sooners official visitor this weekend, Antoine Stephens.

https://twitter.com/Afeeva_14/status/556128331415191552

– UPDATE (Fri., 10:55 am): Monty confirming TFB’s report up top re: Mbanasor visit.

– UPDATE (Fri., 12:35 pm): Another Sooners official visitor on their way to Norman.

– UPDATE (Fri., 12:58 pm): Here’s a pic from earlier in the day with Mbanasor & a trio of OU coaches

– UPDATE (Fri., 1:32 pm): Antoine Stephens has arrived.

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– UPDATE (Fri., 1:36 pm): Daishon Neal also appears to have arrived.

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– UPDATE (Fri., 2:31 pm): Just wanted to clear something up real quick. As a grad assistant, normally Coach Viney is not allowed to do any recruiting off campus. However, since OU does not have a full complement of coaches at the moment, there is an exception to that rule allowing Viney to make the visits you’re seeing him make. Just wanted to clarify that him being out on the road is not an indication that he is OU’s new defensive backs coach.

– UPDATE (Fri., 3:37 pm): Some face time with the head man.

– UPDATE (Sat., 10:01 am): Less than a week into the job and I’m pretty sure Lincoln Riley has already been more active on Twitter than Josh Heupel ever was. Which isn’t intended to be a shot at Heup, just that a social media presence — however stupid some of you may consider that to be — can play a big role in recruiting, so it’s nice to see a guy that gets that.

– UPDATE (Sat., 12:22 pm): 2015 LB Louis Brown has decommitted from Texas. Nothing may come of it, but he did have an OU offer before committing to the Horns. And the Sooners are obviously in need of LBs in this 2015 class, so we may see the OU staff reach out.

– UPDATE (Sat., 1:52 pm): Don’t shoot the messenger.

– UPDATE (Sat., 7:44 pm): Most of you are already aware, but for the few who may not be just wanted to quick a post updated. 2015 LB Dwaine Thomas, a guy TFB introduced to many here and elsewhere, is in College Station on a visit and has committed to Texas A&M. Still don’t understand how/why OU never offered, but never the less very happy for this talented young man.

– UPDATE (Sun., 12:12 pm): Sooners pick up a commitment from 2015 CB Antoine Stephens. We’ll have more later today, but just wanted to get up the good news.

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– UPDATE (Sun., 5:03 pm): According to this Rivals article ($), the Sooners are no longer in consideration for one of of their top 2016 QB targets. Jarrett Guarantano has a final three of Rutgers, Ohio State & Tennessee. With a new OC/QB coach in Lincoln Riley, we’ll have to wait and see if he re-evaluates things at the QB spot with respect to who OU targets in the 2016 class. For whatever it’s worth, as it stands today their top target holding an offer would likely be Shane Buechele.

1,205 Comments

  • Daddy R says:

    Happy Friday!

  • OUn8v says:

    Thanks for the update!

  • STL Sooner says:

    Thanks for the updates. Now lets go get some players! Hope to see a little BOOM…BOOM..BOOM this weekend!

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Looks like Kish is staying. At least he’s hitting the road. I’m thinking that OU just doesn’t feel D Thomas is a top target LB at this point. No offer?

    • Jordan Esco says:

      I think the ship (no pun intended) has sailed on OU & Thomas. Doesn’t make any sense to me, but hard to see it any other way right now.

    • Glocal Sooner says:

      Or maybe we’re not that interested in getting McGinnis or Thomas. Just making Kish work since he’s still getting paid. Ha!

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    I’m not even sure who’s realistically left on the LB’er board that would keep Thomas from getting an offer..

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      That’s what I’m asking. I don’t understand it really. Granted OU has what, 12 Lb’s returning on the roster? But DeBerry and no one else? It only makes sense if we think we are getting two others, or they think LB is not a need this cycle.

      • ccmosaic says:

        You are right and that is crazy really. We loose LBs after this year and will be really short. DeBeers will be awesome but the man cannot play 4 positions by himself. Thomas is gone, there is no way we could get him now as far as I am concerned. Too many big schools going after him and we are dragging our feet. I do not understand LB recruiting for the last 3 years. I just do not get it.

    • Jordan Esco says:

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    • Doobie74OU says:

      The only way this makes sense is IF THEY KNOW they are in better shape behind the scenes that it appears to us on the surface. Hard to believe that kid doesn’t have a offer yet and they keep treating him like a back up plan so it is probably hard for him to get to excited about that prospect! Everybody loves to hear “Hey man we really want somebody else but if we don’t get him THEN YOU ARE OUR GUY!!!” Big Freaking Woop!

  • Jeremy Phillips says:

    Oh, & any update on Overton.. Appears OU is moving away from him, feel good about Lampkin & Daniels?

  • boomersooner says:

    Thanks fellers. Appreciate all the info. Teuhema sounds real familiar. Did he have any family play in the NFL?

  • Jhwig says:

    I was critical of the FBB’s coaching update post yesterday…and I believe rightfully so. However, this is the type of post that FBB’s excels at producing quality content. Firsthand, non-secret “sources.” Real information. Nice work.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      You certainly have every right to be critical should you choose to do so, but I’ve never really understood this criticism some seem to have when people are reporting information from “sources.”

      I mean I don’t suspect you need me to tell you they wouldn’t be your “sources” for very long if you revealed who they were. Thus most, if not all, “sources” are going to be “secret” on at least some level. Otherwise you’d simply be directly quoting someone.

      • Jhwig says:

        Jordan, I believe we can agree that quoting someone with firsthand knowledge is always going to provide better, more credible information than summarizing information from a secret “source” of which information, in whole or in part, proves to be inaccurate…is it not?

        Without quibbling over the wording of my post and ignoring the substance, my point was that you guys do a good job of reporting recruiting updates such as the one above. I did not want to just be critical…when you guys produce great content it should also be given recognition…

        • Jordan Esco says:

          Yes, if you can get someone one the record, and quote them directly by name, that will obviously be one of, if not the best (and potentially reliable) sources of information.

          But if that were the only way people reported news, then there would be very little news reported.

          And please don’t take my ‘quibbling’ (or whatever we want to call it) as a lack of appreciation for your recognition of the work we’re trying to do here.

          I was simply trying to clarify why, at times, we share/report information we’ve obtained from “sources.” It’s a pretty common practice and I can guarantee you if you’re getting information, OU or otherwise, for virtually any other outlet that exists, at least a part of it is coming from a very similar place.

          • hushnpa says:

            I for one really appreciate how you guys work to get info and pass it on to us . Obviously , when there isn’t any quotable source ,, then I have to accept whatever is available that you can give me .
            When the pickings are slim we take what we can get qualified by the level of credibility .
            I’d rather have a little with a low degree of confidence than nothing
            in the midst of what could be a stressful transition like we’re witnessing at this time.
            I believe the whole FBB team does an outstanding job of connecting with and vetting sources, filtering out the fluff and passing on what’s is available in a responsible , reliable manner ; always letting me know how much confidence I can place in a source with appropriate comments on their expected quality .
            You guys have the highest standards of integrity and a manifest desire to serve your readership faithfully and appropriately .
            Always reliable .
            And in the long run that is well worth it !

          • boomersooner says:

            Yeah I’ve never understood the other guys line of thinking. You like the info and trust the info….stay. You don’t like the info or trust it…the doors closer than you think. Don’t come here for info and then question the manner in which its provided

          • Jhwig says:

            Yes, it is definitely clear that you do not understand.

          • Boom says:

            Door is close

          • boomersooner says:

            easy there sparky. a lot of people come on here with nice things to say but they always come with disclaimers. these guys prove over and over that their info is correct. every time…no. 99% of the time? yep. i’m a big boy. i can think for myself but if someone with sources or “sources” close to the program, who nails it a lot, has something to say, i’m all ears. they bring info when they think its credible enough and has some legs to it. they mention something in passing sometimes where they can say but not exactly or what have you. as i said, i’m not trying to introduce you to the door, i’m just showing you which way it is. this place is FREE and it is the best place you will ever find for sooner info. if you don’t like that….scram

          • Jhwig says:

            Read above. Maybe you will understand my points better.

            It’s okay to question content, even if its FREE, as long as you praise where praise is due. My critical comments have proven to be justified at least in part (may be proven justified in whole)…and I followed it up with due praise today.

          • boomersooner says:

            i get your questioning comments and its ok and all that, but it just struck me as nitpicky. as i said when a place gets 99% right or whatever, then someone picks on the 1% seems a little off to me. but we’re cool now and i just wanted to make sure you were coming from the right place and not just here to pick nits. moving on…

          • Jhwig says:

            Yes, no one saw my comments from yesterday. I really like this site. I won’t stop visiting. I understand it’s never going to be 100%, but the info from yesterday was so far-fetched, in my opinion…

            Also, this would not have been an issue had Jordan been able to accept a compliment …:)

          • boomersooner says:

            i’ll have to go take a peek at yesterday then. and yes, when in doubt or hell not even any doubt, it is always jordan’s fault 🙂

          • Jhwig says:

            I can give you the CLIFF notes.

            I really took issue with the suggestion/idea/rumor that Mike Stoops would be moved to position coach, quality control coach or some new position altogether.

            My points: 1. career suicide for Mike (a fairly young guy) to be demoted and remain at the school. 2. primary coordinators get fired, retire or resign and take another position…a demotion like FBB’s was alluding to just rarely, if ever (I couldn’t think of an example), happens…especially for former head coaches at another D1 school. I also never even approached the brother angle.

            I believe FBBs was fed some misinformation. If it ends up be true, i’ll be the first to come here and eat crow.

          • boomersooner says:

            oh ok. thanks for saving me the time. will be interesting to see how that shakes out. one way i could see it working that way is that they may not care what their career looks like after OU. meaning, with what happened to their dad, maybe after OU they’re both done. but yeah you would think that even for a brother that might not happen

          • Jhwig says:

            Yea, another angle that I brought up is that I’m not sure OU would pay a position coach or quality control guy 900K a year. So, for that to be possible, Mike would have to jeopardize his future coaching career and take a pay cut.

            …hopefully now you see why I think FBBs should have sat on the info…

          • boomersooner says:

            yeah i wouldn’t think you’d pay that much for that much of a demotion

          • Jordan Esco says:

            much appreciated!

          • Rene Goupillaud says:

            Every news organization uses “unnamed sources”. In politics, they are often done for nefarious reasons ( float an idea to see public reaction, derail a planned activity that the insider doesn’t like, etc.) We have to rely on the judgment of the reporter or editor. Still, more info is better than less info.

            If the source burns the reporter, hopefully the reporter won’t use him in the future.

            Jordan, one thing I find on this site, you often don’t report something or delay reporting it if not comfortable doing so. That’s your judgment, no problem with it. I don’t agree with the media’s tendency to “beat the other guy to report it” at the risk of being wrong. But I don’t think you should tell us you know something but can’t tell us. That’s not necessary to boost your credibility.

          • Jordan Esco says:

            I understand your point. It can be incredibly frustrating to be that guy saying “well I know, but I can’t tell you.” I/we will definitely try to be better about not doing that.

          • Boom says:

            Bottom line: TFB provide us fans with all information regarding OU football. We wouldn’t have this site if they posted everything they heard. Thus, they say things are going on but they won’t report which is good info to have. Some may not think so but to me if you can read between the lines, they are saying a lot. Not everything is black and white. They also have to provide the gray too.
            I enjoy any and all info TFB provides, IT’S FREE. Hell, if you criticize a free site, you have some other issues.

          • Jhwig says:

            Boom, so if it’s free, I’m not allowed to question the content? Any free piece of information is off limits? I know you must be smarter than that…

            Again, I have said many times, my post today (although Jordan wanted to make an argument of it) was to praise the recruiting update.

          • Boom says:

            My point, it’s NOT just a recruiting site. I for one want to know some of the rumblings even if they can’t say anything or don’t feel comfortable providing the info.
            If you’re mowing the lawn and your wife criticizes how you’re mowing it, I’m sure you like to hear that.

          • Jhwig says:

            OHHH is that what you meant by…. “Hell, if you criticize a free site, you have some other issues.”

            Again, I was critical, and I followed it up with some praise. I think I was fair. Sorry if you think that’s impermissible.

        • normanite says:

          I don’t understand your point. The people with “firsthand knowledge” are the very ones who don’t want to be named. They’re close to the program and provide information only on the condition that their identities are kept secret. If you (the reader) trust the reporter not to be making stuff up and to properly vet his sources (which I do in this case), I don’t know why you would have a problem with the journalist keeping the identity of the source secret. Otherwise, nobody would talk to the journalist and the readers would suffer for it.

          • Jhwig says:

            Again, I think Jordan wanted to quibble over the wording of my comment. I was critical of a single post from unnamed sources yesterday that has proven to be inaccurate, in part, and I believe will ultimately be proven to be inaccurate in whole. I questioned the information. I realize people on this board do not typically do that here.

            I’m not necessarily quibbling over the use of unnamed sources…despite Jordan’s attempt to argue the point. I understand the practice.

            I think FBBs fed us some bad info yesterday, but I’m praising them for providing some good info today. That’s my point.

          • Boom says:

            Fair enough. Do you know something that would prove what they posted yesterday was bad info? Just curious.

          • Jhwig says:

            Kish is on the recruiting trail.

            We will have to wait and see if Mike Stoops is moved to new position as position coach, quality control position or something new altogether.

        • roygbell says:

          I think you are being unrealistic. It is your choice to believe what you want to believe. If you don’t trust what you are being told that is fine. What that means is you don’t have any confidence in the people who are doing the reporting and that is fine as well.

          You are being given information here that is being delivered in an upfront manner. They are telling you upfront that it is from a confidential source. They aren’t reporting it as a fact. It is our choice as to whether we believe it or not.

          I read their stuff and process it and take it for what it is. I don’t see the need to be critical of them for posting what they hear from sources they trust. I see nothing wrong or sinister in what they do.

          • Jhwig says:

            I can’t continue to argue this point. See posts below. Jordan turned this into an argument about unnamed sources, when I was trying to praise FBBs for the content above…after being critical yesterday.

            My critical comments have proven to be justified at least in part.

            Also, I truly believe that if you question and challenge the content of this site, it will continue to get better….as long as you are willing to praise where praise is due.

          • Boom says:

            Always someone’s else’s fault. Whether Jordan jumped in or not, that’s not the point. We appreciate the free information provided to us.

            Maybe Kish is here, maybe he’s not but we won’t know that for awhile. Bob’s call.

            If I’m busting my butt for free and have someone criticizing, it’s not going to challenge me to provide better content. Motivation comes from within, not from a poster who feels like he can challenge the site to become better. That’s rich.

          • Jhwig says:

            1. I was expressing my appreciation for the site’s content today…a point that you have missed completely…again.
            2. I do not care what motivates you personally.
            3. Scroll down and read the comments from yesterday and consider for yourself whether I was justified in my criticism. Stop arguing points in a vacuum.
            4. The argument that b/c it’s free it does not matter what is posted…will not convince me.

  • Eric Hoffpauir says:

    Wasn’t Stephens showing a Horns Down hand sign yesterday with JM?

  • Jordan Esco says:

    Removed Dominique Reed from the visitor list above.

  • Sooner Ray says:

    This slow hire has me wondering if we’re waiting on someone (NFL) or are we having trouble filling the spot.

    • Daddy R says:

      Gotta slow play the hand..

    • ccmosaic says:

      It worries me too. I am hoping it means we are waiting on a couple NFL guys. I have a feeling it could mean we are on our third choice.

    • pitbull17 says:

      Same here Ray. It has me worried too, it’s a good thing my new daughter kept me busy and terrified the last couple of days or i may have lost it.

  • Lincoln Hawk says:

    So does this mean we have a chance with Kyler Murray? Certainly we wouldn’t be at his house the first day after the dead period if we had no shot right?

    • Jordan Esco says:

      I wouldn’t read too much into it. They’re not just going to quit on a kid like Murray, especially when they wanted to use the chance to introduce him to Riley. But I don’t think yesterday’s visit can be read into that OU’s chances are any better (or worse) than they were the day before.

  • BleedCrimson says:

    If Viney was on a visit, does that mean he is no longer a GA? I thought someone said that GAs counldnt travel, or was I mistaken?

  • Randy says:

    I know this won’t be popular but the reason I don like like Monty getting the “CoD” title is I was hoping we could get a NFL 3-4 DB coach and The only way would have been naming him as the DC or at min the “CoD”. I understand doing what you need to do to keep Monty but I am sick of our secondary looking helpless. They need a seasoned guy back there if we are going to continue to run the 3-4.

  • Zack says:

    It’s a head scratcher that they don’t seem more interested in securing another linebacker. At this point they have to land one of these 3 guys: smith, McGinnis, or Houston. I think they cooked on McKee and that’s fine as he’s an even smaller version of striker.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Houston is even more of a long shot than Kyler Murray

      • Zack says:

        That’s my point…they shouldn’t be making guys back up plans if they really aren’t in a good position for the primary guys.

        • Kody K. says:

          Yea, right now I’d sure like to know what the their thought process is on the LB situation. Seems like there isn’t any pressing urgency to secure another blue chip backer like Deberry.

          • Zack says:

            I get that they don’t need to get guys just to get someone but by now they must know whether they have a shot at Houston or smith. If they think Houston is going to usc then it’s time to find another ilb which Thomas could be that guy, then he’s not taking up McGinnis’ spot and smith still has a spot. Thats me assuming we should sign 4 linebackers. And I know right now they’re looking good to land at least 2 4 stars or better and possibly 3 for 2016. Rashaun smith, kerns and Kelly are all high on OU.

  • Brian says:

    So 8 spots left…4 are going to DBs. 1 to OL. 1 to WR. 1 to DL. 1-2 to LB?

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Possibly. I think you could see 2 DL & 0 WR. Still can’t believe they’d only take 1-3 LBs in this class if the plan is to stick w/ the 3-4 scheme.

      • Mr. Jones says:

        Think it’s indication they just feel good about what they’ll have on campus next year in guys like Bolton and Tay Evans, added in with Shannon’s return?

        • Katyboomer says:

          Or we are going back to 4-3 and don’t need as many LB or god forbid we are going to the 4-2-5 again.

        • Jordan Esco says:

          Maybe, but what’s behind those guys? I mean you have to hope for the best and plan for the worst when it comes to recruiting. You have a couple injuries at LB next year, at least as it stands today, and they could be completely screwed, IMO.

  • bjwalker82 says:

    “we get the impression that as of right now they feel they can take two
    more safeties and two more cornerbacks. We were also told, however, that
    this is subject to change as they continue to re-evaluate their board
    going into NSD.”

    So the coaches have almost 0 faith in the guys we have coming up?

    • Jordan Esco says:

      It could be a case of we’re not doing hearing about kids in some of those spots that won’t be back next year.

      • bjwalker82 says:

        Ahh, excellent point. Though that is a shame. I like all those kids and they have talent. Hoping for a positive outcome on all fronts.

    • Fear the Magic says:

      If you cant stop a teams passing game you cant win. This fact becomes even more important in the pass happy Big12. I think the logic here is to take as many DBs as possible and hope that at least 2 or 3 turn out to be the real deal. As bad as last year was OU was just 2 lockdown CBs and a quality safety away from being right in the thick of the NC race.

      • bjwalker82 says:

        If we put like…12 DBs on the field as we did in @ WVU in 2012 (I was at that game), teams will just run all over us. We need LBs just as much as we need DBs. I think we have the young talent.

    • Eric Hoffpauir says:

      The secondary is such an important position grouping that we need to maintain a lot of depth to make it work if there are any injuries. Plus we have a history of raiding the secondary for LBs.

      • bjwalker82 says:

        That’s what I’m afraid of. Sure it’d be nice to have a lot of DB depth but we need LB depth more. I don’t want to turn safeties into backers, it has hurt us more than helped us.

  • BigJoeBrown says:

    The Overton news out of Jenks still get’s me. He has been committed for so long only to run into academic issues. It’s a bit puzzleing at why he would wait until the last minute.

  • Mr. Jones says:

    With Van Jefferson “really liking Riley”, it sounds like we have a legit shot here. Would be a heckuva steal.

  • Jeff says:

    Am I the only one worried with the lack of LB and with all of the DB’s OU is getting???

  • Greg says:

    We only have 10 lb’s if you count Shannon. If Shannon doesn’t come back we are looking at 9

  • Greg says:

    I hope Bob isn’t waiting on Jon Hoke as a db coach possibility.

  • D'Brickashaw Ferguson says:

    Major bummer about Overton’s academic issues. Hope things work out with him and OU…but it looks like OU coaches may have already made their decision:

    “The coaches, they told me they didn’t want to lose a scholarship if I wasn’t able to qualify. They just said that they don’t think I’m going to make it, if I would have jumped up a few more points on my ACT.

    I feel like I’m better than JUCO. … I kind of don’t really want to go JUCO, which is probably what (Oklahoma) wants me to do.”

    http://newsok.com/oklahoma-football-longtime-defensive-tackle-commit-marquise-overton-sooners-might-soon-part-ways/article/5385011?custom_click=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    • Sooner Ray says:

      I would like to know how he’s making straight A’s and can’t get to a 17 on the ACT.

      • Defend Colfax says:

        Oklahoma public schools are a joke.

        • Sooner Ray says:

          Maybe on average but Jenks resembles a small college. They have tons of advanced learning courses and tutors out the wazoo.

          • Defend Colfax says:

            Some people suck at tests. Some people excel at them. I hated school. I had terrible grades. I was a punk ass kid. But I thrived at the testing. ACT, SAT, any kind of standardized testing I smoked it. I just didn’t like the”homework”.

          • Bob Edwards says:

            My youngest son is quite a bit brighter than his brother when it comes to technical stuff (he works as an engineer at the age of 18). But his brother has always done better on standardized tests. Some kids are just better at tests.

          • Soonerfandave84 says:

            I wonder if its a certain subject thats holding him back.

        • Okie4Life says:

          Oklahoma ranks first in our region and 11th in the US for ACT scores. With that being said, sometimes kids work really hard in school and will do whatever it takes to make a good grade but have trouble with standardized testing. However, all kinds of “coaching” is available for preparation of the ACT. Surely he took advantage of that.

      • SCKSChief says:

        Sadly humorous actually.

  • curt gomer says:

    Can someone explain why they send 4 coaches (mostly there best recruiters) to visit a DB thats going to be on campus in 2 days and send Kish alone (who cant recruit crap) to visit a LB that we DESPERATLY NEED??

    • BleedCrimson says:

      Maybe, it is his last chance to save his job? I hope that is not the case, but the only thing that comes to mind???

    • SavageSoonerEsq says:

      And a highly regarded and ranked LB’er at that.

    • BoomerDave says:

      What makes you feel that the staff feels that we “DESPERATELY NEED??” Thomas? Don’t you think that if the felt that they “DESPERATELY NEEDED” him, that he would have at least an offer from OU? He is obviously a back-up plan sort of guy and they are merely keeping in touch.

      • Doobie74OU says:

        I think he was referring to Arthur McGinnis (who Kish visited yesterday as noted above) and not Thomas!

        • BoomerDave says:

          I thought McGinnis had an offer. My bad.

        • MoJoOkie says:

          I’m confused. Above it says Kish visited Thomas. And I think it’s clear that the staff (not just Kish) think Thomas is a fall back at best. Not defending Kish, but if Bob and Monty thought Thomas was a DESPERATE NEED, he’d have been offered by now regardless of Kish’s status.

          • Doobie74OU says:

            It looked like BoomerDave thought Curt Gomer was referring to Thomas in his “desperate need” post but I was just saying that he was probable referring to McGinnis as the “desperately needed” LB and this is a quote from above:
            Arthur McGinnis: For the first time yesterday we heard Tim Kish’s name on the recruiting trail. Coach Kish was in Louisiana and went by to visited 2015 LB Arthur McGinnis
            I think is a guy that should really be pushing for and as Curt was saying we should have the A Team at his house not just Kish by himself!

          • boomersooner says:

            hey c’mon. A TEAM? he’s A TEAM. haven’t some of you guys crowned kish as murdock? 🙂

          • MoJoOkie says:

            My bad then. The only reference I saw to Kish was the one on Thomas. Math was my thing, not the reading comprehension. 8^)

      • curt gomer says:

        talking about Arthur McGinnis who has an offer and we really need to do what we can to get him

    • Doobie74OU says:

      This seems to be a very good question!?!?!?!

    • JD says:

      Without an offer it doesn’t look like we desperately need him from the coaches perspective..I’m sure Kish isn’t the only one looking at the backer postion…The coaches must know something we don’t….that’s what I’m gonna believe until after signing day and then see how Bolton and Tay Evans have developed this spring

    • soonerthunder says:

      You really think Stoops is stupid and he doesn’t know what he’s doing? Has it ever occurred to you that none of us, including this site, know much of what is really going on? Calm down. Believe it or not, they have reasons for all they do, and they are trying to do it the best way possible regardless of what it looks like to fans.

    • OkieRandolph says:

      Kish couldn’t recruit a pack of hungry dogs with a t-bone steak. Proof is in the pudding. We’ve missed on just about every LB we’ve targeted with the exception of DeBerry. If Bolton and Tay Evans couldn’t land playing time this year, WE NEED MORE HELP.

  • bjwalker82 says:

    In other OT news: We (OKC) are INCHES away from trading Lamb, Jarrett, and Perk for Brook Lopez. Please please let this happen.

    • ellisbr says:

      I’ll believe this ONLY when the Brainiacs confirm it! 🙂

      • bjwalker82 says:

        hahaha Check out Woj on Twitter. Originally Charlotte was apart of the deal but they fell away. But because Brooklyn is so eager to clear they’re books it looks like they want to move Lopez by this weekend.

        • Jordan Esco says:

          Look, I love TFB but they/we ain’t got crap on Woj when it comes to sources 🙂

        • ellisbr says:

          Are you hearing anymore about this possible trade?

          • bjwalker82 says:

            All quiet on the Western Front for now. Really hard to tell what the Nets are thinking. Perhaps this is a negotiating ploy or perhaps they were never serious. Hard to tell. Every source characterized the talks as “serious” though, so I have to believe that.

          • ellisbr says:

            thanks for the update. I’ve only read stuff on ESPN and couldn’t tell how serious they actually were.

          • bjwalker82 says:

            Legitimately best place to go is DailyThunder.com, Royce Young I would say is one Oklahoma’s best young sportswriters. Check out the comments section for the absolute latest.

            If that doesn’t work, follow Adrian Wojnarowski on Twitter.

    • Malicong says:

      This HAS to happen. Three players that will not be with the team much longer for an All-Star center? Yes please!

      • Easton says:

        Perkins has got to take his body guard services elsewhere.

        • Malicong says:

          I like Perk, but when the best move you have is an angry scowl at the ref after dropping a pass out of bounds, its time to move on.

    • bjwalker82 says:

      Welp! It didn’t happen. That was some major sports blue balls.

  • rphokc says:

    find this kinda’ humorous………..kish has been by twice to see thomas and leaves him with essentially, ‘we’ll be in touch’……..

  • bjwalker82 says:

    TFB, I know you all don’t like to speculate, which I respect, but is there anything you’ve heard as to why Kish hasn’t had any success with recruiting his position? Do kids just not like him?

    • Jordan Esco says:

      Some guys are ‘closers’ and others just aren’t. By all accounts he’s a great guy, kids like him, but whatever reasons he just struggles (or at least has at OU) to actually close them.

      That may be somewhat of an oversimplification on my part, but I’m not even entirely sure about that based on what I’ve heard (and not being in the room to hear his “pitch).

  • Mr. Jones says:

    In regards to Monty’s tweet: Any thoughts on what the “Co” is short for?

  • Cody Prickett says:

    Does anyone agree with me that there tired of reading that
    TCU and Baylor are the clear favorites next year in the big 12? I mean year TCU
    offense is loaded again but there losing their leaders on offense in Paul
    Dawson and Marcus Mallot. Plus stud players like Chucky Hunter, Kevin White and
    Chris Hackett. Baylor is losing the 5th year senior Heisman finalist Quarterback in Bryce Petty an
    absolute stud in Antwan Goodley WR and on Defense also losing captains on
    Defense in Bryce Hagar and Collin Brence. I’m saying all this because both
    teams have show weakness TCU has shown defensive breakdowns again Baylor west
    Virginia, you can even so Oklahoma. Wait can’t forget Kansas giving them the
    scare of the season. Baylor the same thing TCU, losing the West Virginia and
    Oklahoma for the first Quarter. Plus when Bryce Petty when down with Concussion
    again west Virginia there Offense went stagnant. I’m not giving Oklahoma any
    slack they played horrible this year overall, but if you break the season down
    a little its not to bad. TCU game we had the lead in the 4th with just minutes
    forced two turnovers and even got he ball to the one yard line to win the game
    and just didn’t punch it in. Kansas State Overall played well defense play
    great till the Offense went stagnant on like 3 straight 3 and outs. which gave
    Kansas state the complete momentum i believe we even has the lead. well anyways
    we would have won that one too even Hunnicutt wouldn’t have missed two field
    goals which never does besides this year. Baylor game we were up 14 to 3 start
    of 2nd quarter when offense went stagnant frustrating defense with 3 and outs
    plus tiring defense. Oklahoma State game we were up big when Perine rolled
    ankle offense when stagnant looked like didnt know what to do after he went
    down. The Punt and penalty should have never mattered. Clemson i have nothing
    to say LOL. With that said if we had and a good play caller and a little better
    offense we very well could have been 11-1 at the end of the season and went to
    much better bowl maybe even had chance at Football Playoffs. Oh yeah Texas game we had absolutely no
    offense production til late 3rd quarter and we still won.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Sooners don’t deserve any respect until they earn it.

    • nicjams says:

      Based on recent history, who else would be the favorites? Baylor is showing that they can sustain success and TCU is probably the best coached team in the country. They’re clearly the favorites at this point.

    • SavageSoonerEsq says:

      Yes, I’m tired of hearing it. Even more tired of seeing it in action. Hopefully, OU will do something about it.

    • Boom says:

      Unfortunately, not what any of us want to hear but it’s a fact at this time. However, the players, coaches, & admin know what they have to do and I’m looking forward to those predictions being wrong.

    • Steve Johns says:

      I only needed to read the first sentence. I don’t like not being mentioned as a frontrunner but I also know OU shouldn’t be after the meltdown this year.

    • Malicong says:

      I’m a little tired of hearing it but not for the same reason as most. I get tired of lazy sportscasters automatically thinking what happened this year has anything to do with next year. They very well could be the best but this was being said before the season was even over.
      On the flip side of that, at least OU won’t be over-rated next year and we won’t see 9812 (7648 by Pat Forde alone) stories about how OU never lives up to preseason hype.

  • Easton says:

    @ToatsMcgoats, do you double as a huge Michigan fan?

  • jmac45 says:

    Can anyone cipher Monty’s tweets? What is Pflu and Co?

  • Easton says:

    Daishon Neal. Nice.

  • STL Sooner says:

    Could really use some good news this weekend. In the words of Martin Luther King Jr., “I say to you today, my friends, that in spite of the difficulties and frustrations of the moment, I still have a dream.”
    I realize this is only football (cough…choke), so before I get torched by someone a little too sensitive, here is the disclaimer: This post is not intended to compare racial and civil rights issues to OU Sooner football. The views of this poster do not necessarily reflect those of the TFB writers, contributors and readers. However, I do believe we all share a common “DREAM”. #ChaseFor8 #ChaseFor9 #ChareFor10….

  • Jordan Esco says:

    Update added

  • OUZach says:

    Can we start calling him “Tiny Viney”?

    • Zack says:

      Lol I was just about to say ok we have a new coach “tiney” surely he’s got to be a fan of stanvon

    • Daddy R says:

      Isnt it sometimes the opposite with nicknames referring to size… Like really large men have nickname “tiny” so maybe we call him, “The BIG Viney.” a (The Big Valley” reference)

  • Boom says:

    Hope we are confident in some of our targets. LB’s on scholly – 8 + Shannon 3 others
    OLB – Obo, Striker, Bond,
    ILB – Alexander, Evans, Shannon
    Roster – Tay Evans, Curtis Bolton, Lindley,
    Commits – DeBerry

    Targets – McGinnis, Houston, Josh Smith, McKee
    Target – S/LB Leiato

    Back up – Thomas, Fergurson

    • D Hunter Sanchez says:

      Whoever comes in they have to learn not to bite on the read option that turns into a pass to a wide open TE!

    • Steve Johns says:

      We’re going to be just fine at LB, only need a couple this year. The RS guys are really good players, especially Bolton.

    • hOUligan says:

      15 on current roster. Will add Shannon hopefully for this year, but losing 4, 4 Sr, this year and 4,4 Jr., next year. That doesn’t leave a lot of depth. If OU is going to run the 3-4, need to keep those numbers up. With so little movement in LB recruiting, looks like only taking DeBerry and 1 more. The idea of taking 2 more safeties makes me think they are looking at spinning Thomas down and going with a 4-2-5/3-3-5 variation.

      • Boom says:

        Let me know who the 15 are as the roster doesn’t show that.

        • hOUligan says:

          Alexander, Bolton, Bond JR, Evans, Evans, Favors SR, Franklin SR, Gastulem SR, Grisson SR, Hunter, Lindley JR, Okoronko, Parker, Striker JR, Taylor JR and add ??Shannon JR?? Couple of these guys are also walk-ons and not likely to see the field other than scout team. Just saying, not AS critical this season although would like to see ‘physical’ LBs not dragged 4-5 yds after contact. Next season, though…

          • Boom says:

            Starting in spring, Favors, Franklin, Grissom, Gastulem are gone. Therefore, it gets back to the original numbers.

            We have 8 + Shannon and 3 WOs. Coaches have a strategy so I’m going to sit back and see where this goes.

  • Exiled In Ohio says:

    It’s been quiet about Wariboko and Lampkin. What’s the latest there?

    • Katyboomer says:

      wondering the same thing,

    • Jim says:

      Wariboko continues being a drama queen and nows appears to favor Ohio State. No idea about Lampkin, but with Overton seemingly on the frits, we need to get back on Lampkin, if possible.

  • Jordan Esco says:

    Your guess is as good as mine on this one 😉

    https://twitter.com/OU_CoachViney/status/556168449018187777

  • Jordan Esco says:

    update added

  • Dailen says:

    Any news on how the Kyler Murray visit went?

    • Jordan Esco says:

      I’m sure it well, but if you’re looking for anything in the way of specifics…I wouldn’t expect many.

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    What happened to Dominique Reed? Is he still in the hunt or is does the cancelled visit mean we’ve been eliminated?

  • Daddy R says:

    Curious if anyone knows, what’s the main even the recruits visit during off-season visits? With no football games to go to, do they watch Mens or Women’s BBall? Thunder?

    • Hotrod33 says:

      They will take them to a BBall game if there is one in town and tomorrow the men’s team plays the cowgirls, I’m not sure what time. I think it is a night.

    • Jordan Esco says:

      I’m quite confident those who are there tomorrow will be at least make an appearance at the Bedlam game.

      • Daddy R says:

        Oh snap, Tomorrows Bedlam!? Thank you, I was unaware.

        • Easton says:

          Man, if the same team walks out there against pokie, I won’t be able to watch. WVU out-manned OU a couple nights ago.

          • Daddy R says:

            They did. I bet they can find what they need to beat the OK Aggies.

          • Hotrod33 says:

            They had a rough night. I didn’t think they expected that out of WV. I bet when we play them at home it will be a lot different. WV is not going to surprise people anymore. That is a typical Huggins team, He likes to press and force the tempo. If you remember his teams at Cincy then you know they tend to play a little rough too.

          • Easton says:

            Yeah, Huggins teams beat the opposition up. I remember his teams at Cincy. I hate seeing my team get knocked around, and out hustled by it though. Especially when you should be expecting it, exactly.

          • Daddy R says:

            I do remember those teams. Huggins is a physical teaching coach. I dont mind it, just sucks when you lose to it..

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      I’m guess Stoops’ pool isn’t a big attraction this time of year.

  • Daddy R says:

    update added:

  • BoomerDave says:

    With Overton having issues, I would love to see Monty put a full-court press on Daylon Mack. He was unblockable in the all-star game I watched.

  • Jim says:

    Still waiting for a “BOOM” update. Appreciate all the other updates, but BOOM updates are the best. 🙂

  • CW says:

    Anyone know what Lincoln is up too?

  • Glocal Sooner says:

    Ok I admit it, my patience is wearing thin. I’m tired of seeing everyone around us making the changes while we talk about rumors of some possible 50/50 changes. Just saw Baylor added Chris Dishman as a Safety coach. I know we’re “talking” about making a big name splash with a big time DB coach but COME ON let’s get to it. I’m not jealous they got Dishman and we didn’t, I’m just tired of us appearing to be behind everyone else in making needed changes. It would be nice to see us out in front of the curve at some point.

    • SoonerinLondon says:

      R E L A X

    • STL Sooner says:

      I feel the frustration. Keep the faith. NSD is near! #BOOMER

    • Daddy R says:

      Speed does not necessarily equate to quality.

    • Zack says:

      It’s different when a school is replacing a coach that left because he had another job, meaning there’s a positive reminder that “hey this staff is good” as opposed to firing a guy and replacing him. I don’t think firing kish would have a negative impact at all but you’re asking for them to do that while having a replacement lined up.

    • eastoksooner says:

      Yes yes yes…I’ve been ready for a hire for weeks now. Growing more impatient by the minute.

  • D'Brickashaw Ferguson says:

    What’s the consensus on Wariboko? The longer he stretches this out, do our chances improve? Or is he probably UCLA or tOSU bound?

    Would be a shame to lose an elite in-state recruit at a position of need. Especially since his parents are OU alumni

    • Chris White says:

      He’s going to be A Sooner.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      OU needs to get him, only getting one of the top 4 players in the state would be a big blow(one is due to ACT score)

    • Zack says:

      I think the longer it plays out the more favorable it is for OU. At this point ucla can only visit so much face to face. With OU he just needs to drive about 45 minutes to campus and hang out like Sunderland.

  • pitbull17 says:

    Gentleman and lady, we’ve got a little girl! My daughter was born at 3:37 yesterday. 6 lbs 15oz. 19″ long, her and her mom are both doing great. A new little Sooner is here. Thanks for all the well wishes and prayers.

    • Soonerfandave84 says:

      Congratulations!!!!!

    • Jordan Esco says:

      CONGRATS!

    • Eric Hoffpauir says:

      Congrats! Hope you stored up on some sleep!

      • pitbull17 says:

        Haha, it was a 2 day labor. 4 hours if sleep since Tuesday. I don’t plan on sleeping till I go back to work in a week. But thank you.

        • Jeremy Phillips says:

          ha… you won’t sleep till she’s married…! Congrats! girls are the sweetest and most terrifying, lot’s of joy ahead..!

          • hOUligan says:

            And even after they’re married, they are still ‘your little girl’ and then…there are granddaughters!!!

          • Stephen Dale says:

            and the grandparents get to raise the grandchildren cause the mothers have made terrible lifestyle choices and can’t support their babies……..

          • ToatsMcGoats says:

            I think Stephen Dale is saying…congrats….?

          • EasTex says:

            I don’t. He only has one response to a bowl of Corn Flakes.

          • Stephen Dale says:

            congrats if the parents raise the child to be a productive citizen . all too often, as I said in 2 previous posts, the grand parents wind up having to raise their grandchildren. it is an epidemic in this state…so, not all women make wise lifestyle decisions , and it falls back on the grandparents all too often…go work a few weeks at the DHS ( child welfare div) and get your eyes opened………

          • ToatsMcGoats says:

            Well, Mr. Dale, I’ve seen my share of dysfunctional families. Pitbull is a little rough around the edges, but he’s a quality guy. I have faith that he’ll do as good a job with the second as he has the first.

          • Ed Cotter says:

            SMH @ Stephen Dale. Your attempt at social commentary actually sucks…..and no I wasn’t raised by my Grandparents and neither was my wife or our parents. I actually wish my grandparents had been more a part of my life, but they passed when I was really young. Pitbull, I hope your daughter has a wonderful life and you and your wife enjoy parenthood……and her grandparents are a special part of her life.

          • pitbull17 says:

            I love being a father, what’s the point in life if you don’t have the love of a family and pass on your traditions to a younger generation?

          • Ed Cotter says:

            Totally agree Pitbull. Greatest thing I have ever done. Enjoy the time with your family, and wishing you all good health and happiness.

          • boomersooner says:

            do you hire someone to take a dump in your breakfast each morning? or smack you in the face all day? do you live in a cellar? just trying to put 2 and 2 together on why you are not happy with anything. do you like the longhorns? thats it ain’t it? you’re a horn fan on here posing as a sooner. you can’t be a fan of OU and hate life as much as you do

          • Stephen says:

            No, these are actually pretty funny. You have to wonder what provokes such pessimistic and contrarian thoughts, which, in your case is a combination of poop and breakfast.

          • SoonerBred says:

            Now that’s funny ‘boomer’ and you might not be that far off on your assessment.

          • pitbull17 says:

            You do realize everything in life doesn’t suck? There are some things that are beautiful and meant to be cherished.

          • leatherneck1061 says:

            Why hasn’t anyone arranged an intervention for you by now?

          • akryan says:

            I don’t mind that you rag on just about everything OU related. Despite being the local eeyore of TFB, I do believe you’re a fan and try to back up your postings with logic. This is too far though. Don’t rag on someone having a baby though. That really crosses a line.

          • pitbull17 says:

            Stephen, the more and more I think about the more you piss me off. Just do me a favor and don’t reply to any of my post again. My wife and I are good parents who love our kids. I don’t know what happened to you in life that made you like you are but I want nothing to do with it. No matter what subject it is on this site you try to point out the negative, just don’t reply to me any more and we’ll be ok.

          • pitbull17 says:

            I better get a grandson eventually, but I don’t Evan want to think about that right now.

          • Stephen Dale says:

            yeh.. and they make terrible relationship decisions with the scummiest douchbags in spite of parents concerns….little wonder mankind is drifting downward because of such hormonal decisions…..

          • pitbull17 says:

            Absolutely! I’ve already got a 9 year old daughter, so I’m starting to get a taste of the terrifying part.

    • Boomer4life says:

      Congrats!

    • CW says:

      CONGRATS!

    • eastoksooner says:

      Nothing better than that pit…Children are wonderful blessing from God. Glad all is well. God bless!

    • Exiled In Ohio says:

      Awesome!!!

      • pitbull17 says:

        Thank you all so much, the community type feel and the outstanding free info from the brainiac braintrust are what make this site the best damn Sooner site there is!

    • hOUligan says:

      Huge congrats on the newest member of the ‘Pitbull fam’. Nothing better!!

    • SamSooner says:

      Congratulations!!

    • Phil Counts says:

      Ccongrats pit!!!

    • Hotrod33 says:

      Congrats Pitbull. Make sure to get some pics of her in some OU gear. Glad baby and mom are doing great.

    • Doobie74OU says:

      Congrats!

    • ToatsMcGoats says:

      Hell yes. Congrats, Pitt! Enjoy it!

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Now there’s a BOOM! I’ve been waiting on. Congrats.

    • BleedCrimson says:

      Congratz pitbull !

    • Arkansas Sooner says:

      “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth with Sooners and subdue it and have dominion over all animals of the earth, including Longwhorns.”

    • EasTex says:

      Fantastic news!
      Congratulations to you, your bride and the little one.

    • leatherneck1061 says:

      Congrats man! I’ll be right there in the same boat in just a couple of weeks.

      • pitbull17 says:

        Congrats to you as well then. I hope everybody is healthy and that your wife has a much smoother labor than mine did.

    • MoJoOkie says:

      Congrats. You know she’ll just grow up to be a teenager right?

    • Kuzi says:

      Congrats

    • WilliamJack says:

      Congratulations!!! It IS a Great day Dad!

    • Indy_sooner says:

      ‘Grats bud. Boomer!

    • Ed Cotter says:

      Congrats to you and your wife. What a wonderful blessing.

    • Sooner_Ace says:

      congrats my man!

    • red clay says:

      Congrats! We discovered almost by accident a by-product of home schooling (at least a few early years) our kids still paid attention when teen agers. Those first six years seem to be the key.

    • CS says:

      Congrats to your wife and you! Say hi to the young pitbull!

    • D'Brickashaw Ferguson says:

      Very exciting. Congrats to you and your family!

  • Mizuno44 says:

    I haven’t been on in a few days, so did DGB enter the draft by yesterday’s deadline?

    • Easton says:

      Nice.

    • ColoradoSooner says:

      Agree!

      • Easton says:

        That is interesting. I live in CO. Born, raised in OK. Interesting to see a Colorado sooner affirming the beauty of OK. Sunsets on the plains, the trees in Norman, those things are beautiful to me.

        • Daddy R says:

          I too live in Colorado, born/raised in OK. Sunsets on the plains, and sunsets in the mountains, Beautiful!

        • Easton says:

          Have you ever watched games at a ‘sooner fan club’ type get together where you live? I have not. aTm has quite a club where I am.

          • Daddy R says:

            I am in Denver, they have a nice Sooner bar/grill here called Stoney’s. Its a very popular hangout on OU gamedays for Sooners. I have only been on a non gameday so far, but I have had friends go and they say the place gets PACKED with Sooner shirts. I will try and go this coming season.

            I think ColoradoSooner, above, has been there..

          • Easton says:

            I’m in the Springs. That would be a fun outing though. I’ll remember ‘Stoney’s’.

          • Daddy R says:

            I have a brother in the Springs (and one in Frisco)!

            and yea, its Stoneys Bar and Grill.

          • Easton says:

            I like the Springs man. We have been in Frisco for holiday stuff the last two years. Drove through on our way back from Glenwood Springs a few weeks ago. Treacherous drive in the middle of winter.

          • Daddy R says:

            Springs is cool! and yea, those roads can get beastly up there. We have been loving Denver! Been here 2 years this March.

          • Easton says:

            Good for you guys. I moved here from OKC in August of 2011.

          • Daddy R says:

            We moved from Norman in March 2013. Hey! Did you hear Colorado Springs is getting a Taco Bueno this year!! They are starting there, and then looking to expand across Colorado… Taco Bueno, Braums, and Mazzios are the only foods we miss! lol So we are pumped!

          • Easton says:

            Wow. I have eaten thousands of Taco Bueno bean burritos.

          • Easton says:

            It will be surreal to see a Taco Bueno in the shadow of the mountains.

          • Defend Colfax says:

            Not to crush your memories but Mazzio’s is broke, and Braums is on a steady decline. You’re probably better off with Good Times.

          • Daddy R says:

            Yea, Braums has been steadily declining for some time.. Mazzios is broke? they shut down?

          • Defend Colfax says:

            They’ve close quite a few locations and I think most are on the way out.

          • Ed Cotter says:

            My wife has to go to Braums and Taco Bueno when we visit her family in Lawton. Used to also have to hit Chick – Fil – A, but we finally got some a few years ago here in So Cal.

          • OUhomer4life says:

            I really hope to ride the road to Cripple Creek, the view is gorgeous! The winding road is great riding, just make sure the brakes are good for the trip down.

          • Easton says:

            My father in law likes that ride too.

          • blaster1371 says:

            I’ve read on another Sooner message board of the Denver hang out. Sounds like they have a good time in the non-stupid drunk way, if yiu know what I’m getting at.

          • ColoradoSooner says:

            Lived in CO most my life but really enjoyed my time at OU and OK. Stoney’s is a ton of fun – been there several times for the watch parties. They do a great job. I highly recommend attending.

          • Easton says:

            Good. Yeah, I am already looking forward to stopping through next season.

  • Jordan Esco says:

    Norvell to Texas is official.

  • ellisbr says:

    Man, it got quiet after that last update….I keep refreshing the page just in case there’s some big breaking coaching news, I know it’s probably going to be after NSD but I’m still holding out hope. I hope the recruits are having a great time, would be nice to get a couple of BOOMS soon.

  • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

    Perhaps you’ll all wanna see Westbrook’s response to Berry Tramel.

    Westbrook doesn’t like Berry.



    • Stephen says:

      Let’s be honest, nobody really likes Berry.

      • BoomerDave says:

        Speak for yourself. I love Berry. Has the guts to tell the truth. He’s my favorite guy on Sports Animal as well. He kills Traber every time they disagree. Only person on the SA to have the guts to put Traber in his place.

      • blaster1371 says:

        I bet his dog even bites him on a regular basis….. Or digs out of the back yard and makes a break for it

    • Sooner Ray says:

      That was AWESOME!

    • ToatsMcGoats says:

      Great find! I’ll have some more of that please!!!

    • paganpink says:

      The announcers during the game were even commenting on some crap in the Oklahoman “They look like nothing more than glorified imposters, a group of guys living on reputation and past achievements.” while mentioning that that was brutal from your hometown newspaper. It was a Darnell Mayberry story, and not Berry Tramel. Then the Thunder went on to beat the best team in the NBA right now the very same night as the article.

      • Zack says:

        I’m honestly surprised Mayberry still covers this team but I guess since the Gaylord family doesn’t own the Oklahoman anymore makes it hard for clay Bennett to have him fired.
        I haven’t liked mayberry’s stuff for awhile he’s always looking for a problem and I guess trammel does the same.

        • soonerthunder says:

          Got a great solution. Quit reading the Oklahoman. I quit reading the Oklahoman years ago. Purposely won’t pick one up even in an office. When you read them, you give them all they want. The best criticism of a paper or radio show is not to read/listen.

        • SoonerinLondon says:

          So the Gaylord family no longer owns the Jokelahoman? I didn’t know that.

          I guess they had no more need for wrapping fish.

        • red clay says:

          I sure am behind the times – living in Houston I had no idea the Gaylord family sold the paper.
          That’s a major epochal event for the OKC area.
          I’ve long had mixed feelings about OPUBCO products. When I was a kid, I had to settle for a paper route with the Oklahoma Journal. The Oklahoman & Times routes had every house on the block in the 60’s and 70’s, morning and evening. Those were lucrative. The had maybe 100 subscribers across about one-half of The Village. That Journal paper route was grueling, especially in the winter wind chill. At least I learned the meaning of work. Didn’t make much money on a Journal route. Yep, OKC had 3 papers then.
          What I miss about the old newspapers is the oil and gas reporting. The OKC papers and the Tulsa World had a daily column on oil and gas well completions. That, and the rest of the business sections seemed to be more factual, more meat and potatoes style news.

          • Easton says:

            Nice history lesson. Thank you red clay. I would have liked OKC, as a kid, if I grew up in that time period.

          • Steve Johns says:

            Al Eschbach was the sports editor for the Journal back then.

          • paganpink says:

            I had a similar experience that they would never let you do now. I started throwing an Oklahoma Journal route when I was 10 years old in 1964. They had waived their age rule because they couldn’t get enough carriers. My parents went with me to throw my 38 papers for the first 3 months and then it was just me and Bobo. I got up every morning on my own. Bobo was half Sheperd and half St. Bernard and a 180 pound dog that was incredibly smart.

          • red clay says:

            Yep, I had counted my money before I did the work. Learned better than to continue that. But the hard work didn’t hurt at all! Except for the wind chill. Kudos to your parents!
            Thanks for the story about Bobo. I can picture that magnificent beast. My beagle Barry would have simply bolted for who knows where. He was not obedient.

          • blaster1371 says:

            I totally agree with the work ethic statement for our youth. The town I teach in in CA is smack dab in the middle of farm country and many of our kids start picking at age twelve-thirteen. Big difference between them and some of the softies that make up their peer population. I started mowing yards in my Norman neighborhood age 11 and my first job at Girly’s Pancake House on Lindsey street at age 13 washing dishes and bussing tables. I helped a friend with his paper route, the Norman Transcript, when he had broken his arm. Did that for about seven weeks in late winter early spring……. I think that is one reason I abhor cold weather now! Respect for those who did that!

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      Video evidence.

      http://youtu.be/6_E13tZNKyc

  • hOUligan says:

    Good little article on DNeal that I came across. He grew up in TX, lived with his mother in Houston until last year when he moved to Omaha. He would be much closer to Mom in Norman. Had wondered about OU getting a kid out of Omaha.
    http://nebraska.247sports.com/Article/Defensive-end-Daishon-Neal-committed-to-Nebraska-on-Wednesday-187684

  • James says:

    I don’t know about you guys but I’m just about ready for a BOOM update!

  • sooner44 says:

    BOOMSOON?

  • Guest says:

    Looks like OU just hired Tyler Tettleton as a offensive grad assistant or was he already there and I just didn’t know it?

  • Easton says:

    Affirmative update 10:01am, big affirmative.

  • Indy_sooner says:

    JH slacked on the twittersphere. No need to hide the dig.
    On another note, I would think LR is in culture shock looking at the kids that we have coming in . Not meant to slight ECU by any means

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      Eh. Not all coaches are active on twitter, and some of those that are, somewhat, aren’t even posting their own stuff. JH never struggled to bring in highly ranked QB’s. Every QB he brought in, OU fans were excited about. No reason to bash his recruiting. It was his development that was becoming a problem.

      • soonerthunder says:

        I agree, but might say it wasn’t he couldn’t develop them, he wasn’t good at playcalling, IMO. I think they did fine when someone else was calling plays. But, like I said in the past, BS may have played a little bit of a role in that by telling him he wanted to run more of a Ala O, which I think is a mistake, personally. Mack Brown went down when he wanted to be more power, and OU did too. But, also, I think there was a lack of originality of playcalling. didn’t move WRs around, put in motion enough for me.

        • Kevin says:

          It seems like coaches that change offensive identity either do it to suit the talents of the players they have on their roster, or because out of a reaction to being beat down by a team with a different offensive identity. I dunno that BS wanted to run an Alabama O vs. a TA&M O, but I think the Air Raid he had Leach install in 99 was because he had trouble defending it, then wanted a more balanced pro offense (probably partially because AD was in town) and then wanted mobile QBs because all of his D’s got torched by mobile QBs. Hopefully LR will set down a fundamental identity for this coming year’s offense that can be installed in the spring that has enough flexibility to allow for creativity during the fall.

      • Fear The Magic says:

        Theres recruiting and development but then theres a third and perhaps most important aspect and thats evaluation. You can recruit a 5 star kid and develop him to the hilt of his abilities but unless you evaluate those abilities correctly its can still be an epic failure. That seems to be our current problem right now. I hope Im wrong but between all the 4* QBs on the team right now Im just not seeing ( so far ) that any of them actually have 4* talent. My hope is that it IS a developmental problem that Riley can fix and not an evaluation problem.

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          I get that, but we aren’t talking about one kid. We also aren’t talking about just one kid or a group of kids that have been only been evaluated by OU. Several recruiting sites had those guys ranked high. Several other good schools offered those guys scholarships.

          If it were one or two kids that weren’t panning out, I might agree. But it’s not. It’s a group of 3-5 QB’s in recent years. At least one or two of those guys should be better than what we’ve seen.

          And I have very, very little doubt we’ll see better QB play next year.

    • Steve Cooke says:

      Some coaches use mostly use the DM function more than the open post. Just because you can’t see it in your time line doesn’t mean they don’t use it.

  • blaster1371 says:

    What’s this Twitter stuff all about…….you mean he carries a bird with him on visits ?

  • Buster Rhymes 4 says:

    anymore transfer news? You would think a few more would be looking (i.e. CB,WR)…

    • blaster1371 says:

      Good question… I second this one. Would think it would be clear based on who is or is not enrolled. The semester has started, right?

      • rphokc says:

        I don’t know about the time lines for making decisions, but you might think that everyone is waiting on coaching hires, go thru spring practice, see where you stand and go from there……..we do seem to be collecting dbs so I would think some would eventually take off

        • blaster1371 says:

          That would make sense. But if a OU player has plans to transfer he needs to have a scholly saved for him and get into spring practice for his new team if he hopes to have a good shot at playing in 2014. I would think that move must come before NSD and the start of the spring semester of his new school.

          • rphokc says:

            again, don’t know the time lines, but you may be right………mcnamara had to turn in transfer requests or something along that line

          • blaster1371 says:

            Yep. I think one of the WRs who is going to San Antonio just made it known sooner in the fall so he could meet deadlines for his new school.

      • Easton says:

        Very good.

      • Sooner Ray says:

        I’ve always thought Stoops should use Ross the way Switzer used Rhymes

        • rphokc says:

          riley hasn’t been around rb talent like he now has……..hope he finds ways to use it…..

          • eastoksooner says:

            I was thinking the same thing…hopefully he is a creative mastermind because he has some great talent to work with in the RB corp

          • blaster1371 says:

            I think he will. A fresh perspective applied top the RB play is a good thing. Seems like OU tried to use guys the same way they always have instead of to their skill set. I just hope Ford doesn’t stay on the shelf. Would love to see the triangle (or diamond formation as some call it) explored to its fullest potential. All those RBs have the size to put a linebacker on his butt.

          • eastoksooner says:

            Yes run the triangle. Can you imagine Perine, Ford, and Ross all on the field at the same time.

        • blaster1371 says:

          Yep…I could see Ross taking those wide pitches to the house.

      • rphokc says:

        1) I miss the big 8…….2) one of the prettiest plays in the wbone was the reverse……..

      • blaster1371 says:

        Is Buster Rhymes 4 THAT Buster Rhymes?

  • Zack says:

    So Louis brown de-committed from texsa I wonder if them loading up on linebackers is finally affecting them. Hopefully Monty makes a run at him

  • Jordan Esco says:

    Update added

  • Hotrod33 says:

    It seems texass is having some issues also. How odd is it that OU and texass’ recruiting has been somewhat unconventional and strange to put it best. It is a very good class for us but they way it has played out it is confusing on how many players at certain positions we are trying to recruit. (Ex.; we need lb’s but we are going after more cb’s/safety’s). It has been one of the strangest that I can remember.

    • Zack says:

      Well I think OU is stuck in a position of needing linebackers but they want elite guys at this point and they don’t want to screw up their numbers going into the 2016 cycle because theyre high on lists of 3 really good prospects. And then they don’t feel they’ve hit home runs in the past with safeties and corners which I think both stoops believe that’s their specialty in developing.
      As far as texsa I have no clue about their recruiting but I think strong is a guy who can turn them around its just a matter of IF he can do it soon enough

      • blaster1371 says:

        Also seems clear what Strong thinks the strength of his team needs to be and its not surprising given he is a DC. He thinks a strong defense takes up the slack for a weak offense and its doesn’t work the other way around. I still think texass will have offensive issues as the line they bring back was not good and it wasn’t due to lack of experience (non-athletic as hell) and the QB position has no depth and may be breaking in a freshman this season.

        • rphokc says:

          ……like many, ut is a gunslinger qb away from being pretty good/very good, and strong will find one if he hasn’t already

      • Hotrod33 says:

        It’s a good point. I guess more than anything is that this is the most unusual recruiting season I can remember. We think one way and the coaches go a different way.

  • blaster1371 says:

    With all the safety recruits I wonder if Ahmed Thomas is switching to linebacker or more the Roy position.

  • D'Brickashaw Ferguson says:

    I remember Louis Brown was high on Baylor and Okie State before committing to Texas. Send Bob, Monty, and Mike and let him know how desperately we need solid LB recruits!

    Also…LOL that he de-committed while in Austin on an official visit.

  • Dustin says:

    Where we at w/ McGinnis? He’s on a trip to Arizona this weekend. Is he coming to OU the 30th?

  • Jordan Esco says:

    update added

  • Dustin Brasel says:

    Kish may have just been updating on his leaving and to solidify the relationship to the school, not to the coach

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      Kish may be leaving, but I guarantee he didn’t go visit DeBerry, alone, and tell him he was leaving. That would be a terrible way to handle that.

  • red clay says:

    Great things happening in Sooner Nation.
    BOOMER ! !

  • Daryl says:

    Get this Brown kid TODAY! anytime you have a guy that plays every position on the field in HS means football player/play maker. I like it!

    • Steve Cooke says:

      Rumor in twitter verse is he may have academic worries.

      • Dustin says:

        First rumor out of people’s mouths. Every time. Maybe he just realized Texas sucks.

        • Steve Cooke says:

          Just read on the texas 247 site that the mom doesn’t want him around a relative in the area that’s a bad influence. So take it for what’s worth.

    • EasTex says:

      It concerns me that he played at the lowest Conference level in Texas, 2A Div 2, that is one step up from 6 man football.
      His offer list indicates that many don’t see that as a problem, though.

    • Bob Barker says:

      Is Bob Barker the only one not impressed with his film?

  • Scott Moore says:

    This Tweet makes it look like Louis Brown wants to head to Norman.

    ⭐LOUIS BROWN⭐ retweeted

    Boomer15

    @Boomer145

    ·

    24m
    24 minutes ago

    Hey @Iam_lcbj2 …one door closes another one opens…come through Norman #OU needs yOU! #Boomer #Only1

  • Jordan Esco says:

    Apologies in advance as I won’t be around a computer to provide any updates on the Lincoln Riley introductory presser.

    I’ll be really surprised if SSTV doesn’t stream it, so if you want to watch it I’d be sure to check there first.

    If anything of significance is said, I’ll be sure to post an update later tonight.

    Hopefully me being out will also help OU pick up a commitment! That kind of stuff tends to happen for me when I’m somewhere and can’t report on it.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Get outta here then…..that’s all I’m sayin’. 🙂

    • Easton says:

      When is this presser?

    • Bob Barker says:

      Here’s the transcript (from the future):

      Riley: “I’m very excited to be the new OC at the University of Oklahoma, I have always had tremendous respect for the program and for Coach Stoops. I’m excited to work with a great group of coaches and players.

      I think the fans will be excited by the offense we are going to run. I can’t wait to get started this spring. We have a lot of talented players here at Oklahoma, it’s gonna be fun to spread the ball around.

      I just have to thank Coach Stoops again for having the confidence in me, as well as the other coaches who have helped me get here today, Coach Leach and Coach McNeill, I wouldn’t be here without them. Coming from Muleshoe, TX this is a dream come true for me. God bless America. Amen”

      • John Garner says:

        I like all he said, especially the last line: God Bless America. It has its faults but you don’t see people jumping the border to get into Russia, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia.

        • Bob Barker says:

          John I knew your brother James very well. We spent some time together in Hollywood back in the 50’s.

          RIP in Peace to my good pal and Sooner, Jimmy Garner.

          • John Garner says:

            Thanx, but he wasn’t my brother though we might be related. Just not sure how. But I know what you mean. He was Sooner born, and Sooner bred.

          • Bob Barker says:

            I’m not really Bob Barker either. And if you were at OU in ’04, I know you in real life!

          • John Garner says:

            LOL! I was at OU in ’68. Marines in ’69. Between the two I discovered beer.

  • James D-Space says:

    Congrats Pitbull!

  • James says:

    Is Blake Bell in the nflpa game?

  • hOUligan says:

    Watching the Shrine game on nfl network. 3 OU helmets in the West O lineup: Shead, Rip and Bell. They are flexing Rip out and sending him downfield.

  • Jake says:

    So Dwaine Thomas committed to A&M?

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    Anyone watching the Shrine game? They got Rip playing Wideout and some H back…Bell TE and Shead LG.

  • bmrsnr says:

    Dwaine Thomas to A&M

    • bmrsnr says:

      This one is frustrating. I hope the coaches know something we don’t

    • Zack says:

      Well one thing to watch is to see if this leads McGinnis to pick OU. Most thought it was 50/50 OU vs a&m so as much as most of us liked Thomas’s film, I think McGinnis is the better player and definitely more ready to play early. Now if a&m lands both then f@#$

      • Sooner Ray says:

        Ditto on the f@#$.

      • EasTex says:

        I really, really like McG.
        /really

        • Zack says:

          Yep but they are gambling with high school kids. So I hope it pays off. If they have to scramble the next 2 weeks or so then we’re in trouble.

      • hOUligan says:

        Chavis really liked Thomas and wanted him. Interestingly, McGinnis had no offer from LSU/Chavis so maybe Chavis is not that interested. I’ll take a heaping helping of Hulk every damned day on OUr defense.

        • Zack says:

          Just to play Devils advocate…the only thing his defenses weren’t really known for was linebackers. He had great corners and safeties. Some good linemen but I can’t think of many linebackers he put in the nfl. I could be wrong though

  • ellisbr says:

    anyone know where I can watch the OU presser online? or if it’s already done?

  • EasTex says:

    OU Football twitter feed has quotes from his presser.
    https://twitter.com/OU_Football

  • EasTex says:

    Good one!

    pic.twitter.com/1MptnIEJNq— Oklahoma Football (@OU_Football) January 17, 2015

    • Sooner Ray says:

      That’s awesome.

    • Steve Johns says:

      Full quote: “Fun to walk into these high schools with these two letters (OU) on your chest, knowing you have a shot with anybody.” – Riley

      • EasTex says:

        Much better than the caption.

      • Sooner Ray says:

        I just hope he doesn’t start thinking those “letters” are going to do all the work for him as some coaches have appeared to do at times.

        • Steve Johns says:

          I’m sure he knows the letters will get him in the door and what he does after that is up to him.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            He seems like the type that will take full advantage of this opportunity, can’t wait to see who he gets in on next year after he’s had time to make a plan.

          • Steve Johns says:

            Judging by the tweets, there’s little doubt who’s in charge of the offense now. I am very optimistic going into next year.

          • hOUligan says:

            Early returns are in. Riley is an aggressive, take charge guy.

          • Steve Johns says:

            Just saw a tweet that he was right back to work after the presser. Have a feeling we’re going to see a huge improvement on the offensive side of the ball.

          • hOUligan says:

            Get the feeling that when he packed to head to Norman he didn’t bring his golf clubs.

          • EasTex says:

            Hope he is like former UH HC John Jenkins of late 80’s early 90’s run and shoot fame, when asked about how hard he worked.
            “I have never played an inning of golf in my life.”

          • Steve Johns says:

            I call it “Pasture Pool”

          • EasTex says:

            I play skeet golf. I hide in the bushes and shoot any hooks or slices.

          • hOUligan says:

            Can hardly wait. I really believe that after Riley digests everything in the off-season and spring, he will put an offense on the field that will attack teams. Also believe he will fully involve Gundy and Bedenbaugh in maximizing the run game.

        • Hotrod33 says:

          I think he realizes he has a great thing and will take advantage of it to the fullest. He knows there is a lot of pressure on Bob to right the ship with this team and he will do his best.

        • Bob Edwards says:

          No I think he means that now he gets to talk to the four and five start guys rather than hoping he can steal a couple of three star guys from the big boys. From looking at there recruiting, last year they had about as many three star guys as we did. Problem was those were their top players, they were our bottom players.

  • bmrsnr says:

    What is the boards reaction to this quote : Stoops: We’ve slowly drifted away from the Hal Mumme/Mike Leach offense, and I wanted us to get back to it.

    • EasTex says:

      Face value, got to score points in the Big 12 if you want to win.

      • hOUligan says:

        True dat. It is what it is. QB driven. I’ve got no problem with a pass first offense, not my personal preference, as long as it puts up points. The 1 caveat for me is, like Baylor, the oline brings some mass and can punch the ball between the tackles, too. Think this offense will ‘open the box’ and create good run opportunities.

        • EasTex says:

          There is an arms race in the Big 12. BU, TCU, OSU, WVU and TT are all going to try and score lots of point and no defense will ever shut them down consistently. Got to put up points and I feel the same way, pass to set up the run or run to set up the pass, I don’t care which. Just keep matriculating the ball down the field and score points.

          • Steve Johns says:

            Hank Stram lives!

          • hOUligan says:

            Not a bad analogy. Always liked watching Hank and the Chiefs were a fav in the old AFL. It, too, wasn’t ‘real football’ but look what happened. It captured the fans, had to be assimilated and changed football.

          • Steve Johns says:

            Purely accidental. Was talking about Tex “Just keep matriculating the ball down the field” Stram quote.

          • EasTex says:

            I liked that ol’boy.

          • Boom says:

            Otis Taylor, nuff said.

          • Hotrod33 says:

            I think one of the things that has happened also is that a lot of athletes have moved to offense and not to the defense. For the longest it was always the best athletes were on defense. Now it is the other way around. If OU can get back to putting the best athletes on defense then you will be able to beat these teams.

          • EasTex says:

            I agree to an extent, but not entirely.
            The offense has the advantage, they know what they are going to do…the defense has to react.
            I can’t remember how many times I have heard people say there is someone open on every pass play, and I believe they are/were right.

          • Hotrod33 says:

            I know the offense has the advantage but also, if the defense can make the offense predictable then the defense has the advantage. They can dictate to the offense what to do from that point.

          • EasTex says:

            The defense making the offense predictable is a big IF when the offense is balanced.
            The days of running on first and second down, then passing on third pretty much ended with Woody Hayes.

    • Steve Johns says:

      My reaction is – Riley will run his own version.

      • Zack says:

        I know there’s still some who are skeptical of whether he will run the ball but let’s be honest…the guy leaving this year is probably more talented than any running back he’s ever had.

    • Easton says:

      Where did this quote come from? Whole transcript somewhere?

      • bmrsnr says:

        Jason Kersey, but this might be the actual quote

        mobile.twitter.com/ou_football
        “I had a goal in mind to get back to running the (Leach) type system.” – @OU_CoachStoops on @LincolnRiley
        5:00pm – 17 Jan 15

    • Stephen says:

      Being able to throw should open the run game up.

    • Easton says:

      Because its Bob, and not any among us, I like the quote.

  • BloodRed says:

    Well I’ll interpret what stoops says as this.”Well with me and my brother coaching the defense, we will not be winning any titles anytime soon unless we can outscore people. There won’t be any 13-2 games and were victorious ever again. In that sense he is totally correct. Yet if this is the offense of the future one would think all the pro teams and the Michigans, Usc, Bama, ohio st would be running it..Hmm?

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      You do realize there were 62 points scored in the NC game, right? And 79 and 77 points scored in the two semi-final games, right?

      Gotta be able to score points this day and age. And I don’t think there has to be such a big difference in what some call the Leach system, and whatever terms you want to use to describe what Oregon, Ohio State, and whoever else are running.

      • BloodRed says:

        what is the average point total of any nat’l title game played under the “Leach System”? I know the answer…do you?

        • Easton says:

          It must be tricky. This is a trick question. Hm?

          • BloodRed says:

            Not tricky at all..youtube any of our title games versus Fsu, Lsu, Usc, Florida,..*WARNING*…You’ll not like what you see….

          • Easton says:

            I’ll just admit it now: I didn’t like what I saw.

          • BloodRed says:

            I’m just skeptical that were only doing this in a desperate attempt to get back at the chance of beating the Baylor and Tcu’s again..? That might please some fans and Alumni but most we’ll tire of team losing title games if were fortunate to be in one again and we’ll be right back where we started….

          • Easton says:

            Realistic concern. I stick to this being a make it or break it decision by Stoops. I’m hoping for an ascent, a new and unpredictable rise to prominence. If it doesn’t happen, then we will have to wait for a better, future, era.

          • EasTex says:

            That has been an issue for years in many conferences. To play for a natty you first have to win your conference, so you build your team to win the conference.
            More and more, including this years Buckys, are employing a spread offense and throwing on 1st downs.

          • BloodRed says:

            Trust me, Urban Meyer is a single wing innovator who has been running that same offense since he’s been in coaching who just uses spread concepts. I played ball, been in major college film rooms etc. What we run is nothing like the spreads that Ohio St. Oregon, Michigan or Bama run. ..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

          • EasTex says:

            What do we run now?
            Gonna have to wait for the spring game to find out.

          • Steve Johns says:

            Might not know then. Bob doesn’t like to show much in the Spring Game.

          • EasTex says:

            True.
            I don’t care what type of offense, as long as it moves the chains, scores points and burns clock.

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          If you consider what OU ran in 2004 and 2008 (especially 2008) to be “Leach’s System”, we have nothing more to talk about. We’ve slowly gotten away from a true Leach system every year since he left.

          • BloodRed says:

            Whose fault is that? Your coaches etc. are paid handsomely so we agree coaches inept preparedness is to be blamed..I thought that is what you meant.

          • SoonerfanTU says:

            I don’t think even you know what you are arguing at this point. Wasn’t it that the Leach system can’t win? I’d argue that if you are using 2004 and 2008 as examples of that, you are wrong.

      • soonerthunder says:

        That’s with Oregon having 2 WRs out and their TE, getting uncharacterisically stopped on 1 yd line, etc., too. I think it definitely gutted Oregon’s O.

    • Easton says:

      Vague. However, I can say that if everybody is not doing it, then it follows that it does not work, is a falsehood.

    • boomersooner says:

      another pessimist found his way here….yippee

    • Zack says:

      Michigan Ohio state and bama all have tried to go to a spread type of offense. Michigan hired rich rod so they could go spread. Ohio state hired Meyer who runs a unique spread. Bama while they didn’t go all out on the spread offense they did try to go to more of a pass first/pass heavy offense this year with kiffin. The spread really took over in Texas high schools because the big 12 was the first conference to run spread offenses like crazy. The fact is all these “great” defensive schools would get exposed if they had to face spread offenses 12 of 13 weeks so it’s a myth to think there are still great defenses in college

      • EasTex says:

        Good post and agree with most of it, but must quibble about the Texas high schools following the Big 12’s lead.
        Some Texas high schools were using spread offenses in the late 80’s and with the high flying UH offenses even more followed. Texas 7-on-7 took off in the 90’s and the year Andrew Luck was a soph at Stanford, 67% of the starting QBs in that year’s bowl games played their high school ball in Texas.
        My old high school won the 1990 state championship in what was then called 5A Big School for that year only. They ran a spread with an offensive line that didn’t average 200 lbs, a 155lb QB, a 5’7″ 165lb RB and two WRs that didn’t weigh 150, but one was a 4.2 and the other a 4.3. They beat people with technique and speed.

      • BloodRed says:

        Wrong as usual Zach….Look at coach Meyers offense thru the years…He’s always been a single wing/ with multiple formations lots of misdirections, jet sweeps, QB runs, high percentage passes etc..I’ve been in film rooms, studied them and broken them down….We got our butts beat by a single wing offense that had some athletes who out-performed ours and coaches who out-coached ours….Keep making excuses thats what OU is starting to get known for….

        • Zack says:

          His offense is more complicated that just a single wing option offense and you know that or should if you’ve studied it. Just because he doesn’t throw it 60/40 or even more doesn’t mean it’s not a spread offense. He uses the whole field and makes you defend the entire field no? To think spread means air raid is a complete misconception.

          • BloodRed says:

            That is true…I just looked at part of your first response….Look I have no problem with Riley running the show, but you better have a plan versus teams who will take the basic premise of the spread away. KU’s of the world won’t but there are other teams in the nation that will not allow those same spread principles to impact the game. Great coaches take away something that U do best, if there great at all…

  • SoonerOracle737 says:

    PUP. Put up points baby! Go Lincoln!

  • Daddy R says:

    Any way we could get a Bedlam BBall thread goin?

  • D'Brickashaw Ferguson says:

    Guess John Chavis & TAMU saw more upside in Dwaine Thomas than OU did. Bummer.

  • Jeff says:

    Brown is a grade risk not coming to OU

    • Easton says:

      WELL DONE. Thanks.

    • ccmosaic says:

      Great interview! I am really impressed with him. One of the differences between him and Josh that I see is that he understands the system and he knows the ins and outs. Josh will be good I think but, he needs to go to a place where he can learn.

    • CS says:

      One of the interesting things LR pointing out was how he has made mistakes and learnt from them.

      I am pretty sure JH made some mistakes (you guys think, many, I guess) but at a place like OU where competition is stiff every week and everyone is looking to beat you to make a name – these mistakes have cost us games.

      Also, LR points out about the pre-processing ie putting together a plan, organizing the details, figuring out the attack etc that goes on with being an OC – not just play-calling – JH struggled with this, I assume. The QBs needed to be developed – whilst doing all these – and it took a toll on him and our QBs – on Saturdays.

      LR appears to be a very very sharp man. Hopefully the experiences of putting together plans and successfully running the schemes will be a huge positive when it comes to it.

      Wishing him well!! BOOMER!

  • oumike23 says:

    Just saw hall of famer Darrell Green coaching DB’s at nflpa bowl. The announcers were talking about how the players loved him this week. How about him as a DB coach candidate?

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    My phone won’t let me watch the presser for some reason.

  • RBear says:

    no news is…

  • BloodRed says:

    My mistake, I found something better…..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58FVeYjHpM8

    • Easton says:

      Time will tell Blood, time will tell Red.

    • boomersooner says:

      using obama to back up your argument is not the way to prove your point. but that’s a whole different argument for a whole different site

    • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

      Point is what?

      • EasTex says:

        Well, he was talking about “offense.”

        • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

          Sure thing. Riley’s offense isn’t an identical copy of the Air raid. Same or similar passing concepts, that a lot of teams use, but perhaps different running game. For example, zone blocking vs. “man ball.”

          We have yet to see what Lincoln will do with OU’s players. I like the Air raid passing game, just not the running game (the “pure” Air raid, that is). Lincoln needs to run the ball. Bash some dudes in the nose with counters, traps, whams, and such.

  • Jeff says:

    Thomas to aTm, as usual OU is too late

  • Jared Tyra says:

    I really like Lincoln Riley’s confidence; that will pay huge dividends on and off the field.

  • boomersooner says:

    lil bro’s taking this one on the chin right now

  • Easton says:

    Packed house too. Looking good there for the recruiting weekend, if they are there.

  • EasTex says:

    Boomersooner, that bus you liked is now on the auction block.
    Mad stacks of Benjamins tonight.

    • boomersooner says:

      that things awesome

      • EasTex says:

        All the millions that thing brings goes to our troops.

        • boomersooner says:

          even awesomer

          • EasTex says:

            Good stuff!

          • boomersooner says:

            was it wounded warrior or something different? 3 and a quarter mill will work wherever it goes but was wondering which charity

          • EasTex says:

            It was the Armed Forces Foundation.
            A buddy of mine that retired after 25 years in EOD told me they did a FOIA request on Wounded Warrior and found only a very small percentage of the money actually went to the wounded warriors. Admin costs and bloated salaries took most of it. Very disappointed to hear that.

          • boomersooner says:

            wow. hadn’t heard that. that’s very disappointing. will have to avoid them and any companies who work with them in the future…or at least research companies who work with them to see how shady they are

          • EasTex says:

            Not prepared to call them shady. Badly managed, incompetent, may be accurate.

          • Steve Johns says:

            Unfortunately that’s true with most charities. Some get as little as 2%

          • EasTex says:

            It’s certainly true of many.

          • hOUligan says:

            Have heard that recently from others. I’ve been a steady supporter of WWP since inception but am rethinking my support. Any other worthy orgs? Armed Forces Foundation? Will have to research that.

          • EasTex says:

            There are some that are very specific to branches of service and LE that do a great job of getting most of their funds to the vets, their spouses and children.
            The Armed Forces Foundation is a good organization that is a ‘blanket’ type charity, donating to all the branches of service.

        • boomersooner says:

          and jeff gordon still looks 12

  • D'Brickashaw Ferguson says:

    Louis Brown visiting Okie State soon

  • boomersooner says:

    spangler just punked lil bro. i’m very proud

  • Austin says:

    Spangler and Hield just made the sc top 10 with those dunks!

  • Daryl says:

    Brainiacs I am sure you can’t answer this BUT you mentioned a few weeks ago there was a possible commit coming that would surprise all of us. Anymore news on this?

  • JD says:

    Anybody else think our Offense can be close to 08 level with decent qb play…can’t wait to see Mixon in this offense and MeierAndrews…not to forget Shep Quick and another wildcard or two at wr

    • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

      I’m cautiously optimistic. I think our offense could’ve been elite the past two season with even half-decent QB play. Posted something like that on the Norvell thread. Was told it was just me. But now it may be just us. lol!

      • JD says:

        I think the hurry up will really help with execution…they don’t have time to think and show more focus imo

        • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

          I dig it. Heaven knows we have the conditioning to do it. Coach Schmidtty is a cardio architect.

    • Stephen says:

      Nah, I think it will look a bit different. I think we see more ground game due to the personnel, and maybe 2016 or 2017 it will resemble the 2008 offense more.

      • JD says:

        You do realize we had two 1000 yard rushers in 08 right…used a tight end and passed the ball around a lot with the hurry up

        • Stephen says:

          Yes, but we don’t have a group of proven wide receivers and tight ends that the 2008 offense had, which is why I think we lean on the run more than the pass at the beginning. Also, I don’t believe that the 2008 offense used much of the fullback position. I think they somehow incorporate Flowers somewhere in there.

          • JD says:

            We had Brody Eldridge and Matt Clapp at the fullback position…I think Meier and Andrews will really surprise this year..Meier will be a shoe in for the Brody role imo

          • Stephen says:

            I hope you’re right, I’d love to see the TE position return.

          • JD says:

            Me too…East Carolina didn’t use them much but I’m not sure they had the personnel…I’m really high on Meier and Andrews and guarantee CoachJay will have them involved

          • Stephen says:

            Did they officially more Andrews over to TE? I know there was some speculation but didn’t hear anything official.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            Last I saw, they had tried him in both positions. Who knows where he will end up.

          • JD says:

            I haven’t seen anything official…he’ll be a hell of a flex type…in the hurry up he could be inline one play and split out on another…seems like Blake was talking about his blocking coming along so I just assumed

          • Scott Moore says:

            Coach Jay?

          • boomersooner says:

            Boulware

          • EasTex says:

            Don’t forget about Ijalana, he showed he was a very strong and physical player in last year’s spring game.

          • JD says:

            surprised we didn’t see more of him in the run game…did he have a redshirt…with Bell and Rip it might have been hard to get out there

          • EasTex says:

            He was redshirted.

      • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

        Good record or bad, I’m excited to see the next chapter in the story of the fuh-reak they call Samaje.

    • Zack says:

      I think it’s too early to say 2008 but I do think 2007 is a better expectation to have. But if Trevor or baker hit an elite level in this new offense then the results of 2008 become realistic. Both Trevor and baker have about the same experience Bradford had going into 2008.

      • JD says:

        I think the hurry up might create a higher completion percentage just because the focus will be greater and less time to think

      • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

        Glad you’re not writing off Trevor. Some are, but I think the kid has the drive to improve.

        • Zack says:

          I think new direction might really help him. It was obvious that the coaches didn’t do anything this year that resembled the game plan in the sugar bowl so I don’t think they played to his strengths and he had very little in experienced receivers.

          But I think the 2 that will have the best chance to get this team far next season are the 2 with the most experience.

    • Jackson1006 says:

      Anyway you look at it, we are going to give up more sacks. We may be taking for granted how good our pass protection was this year. Knight had forever to throw, which makes it all the more concerning that he struggled. Statistically, there is usually always regression to the mean. And we’ll likely throw more. And we’ll have two “new” starting tackles. If all goes well and we get a QB, we are two years away I think from being a NC threat.

      • Zack says:

        That’s a fair point about pass protection we will see though. As good as Williams and Thompson were, they weren’t close to Trent Williams and loadholt so I don’t think it will be impossible to fill their spots.

        • soonerthunder says:

          Also, i think we’ll get the ball off a whole lot faster in this offense than last years, so I don’t see our QBs getting sacked as much

        • JD says:

          I like Frison and Brown…plus like mentioned with quick outs on some plays they won’t have to work too long and on others they can just plow then hit some play action down fleld…heard Riley likes to go deep

  • Zack says:

    So AD miller de-committed from Illinois…was he on a visit here this weekend or what?

  • hOUligan says:

    I favor a strong run game w/ PA, a QB with a strong arm who can throw on the run. Am hopeful Riley runs it. One of my biggest concerns has always been OU to me seemed ‘off’ in bowl games. These passing offenses depend upon timing and I feel much of that is gained by playing and lost in the interim between bowls. Esp compared to a run oriented offense. What do you guys think?

    • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

      Answering your question requires a lot more football knowledge than I can realistically provide. I’ll just say, I like winning. Fair, clean, and classy winning.

      That’s all I got. Hoping someone will dialog with you with something more substantive.

    • Zack says:

      I think they will run it more than others expect. Riley has never had one running back as good as our guys. We will run it well I think.

      • JD says:

        Yep we have a freshman all american and a guy that is supposed to be better than him then Ford Ross and Anderson (likely red shirt)..were gonna have some nice balance I believe and think we will put up some big numbers..keys will be the line and qb play

        • SoonerPhins says:

          I’ve said it before and I will say it again, Perine will have a better career than Mixon. Hope Mixon does well but Perine is proven to be the real deal.

      • Bob Edwards says:

        Yep, his best running back over the last five years was a three star. That’s the worst we have had over the last five years and he just left because he couldn’t get on the field.

    • Steve Johns says:

      QB has to be quick and decisive with his hot reads. Which is something our guys haven’t done in a while.

  • blaster1371 says:

    Unless it was grade issue or OU felt good about its other offers not offering Thomas makes no sense at all.

    • Zack says:

      I think the plan was to get McGinnis first then go after Thomas not just letting him be a plan B. But that they didn’t want to scare off McGinnis.

      • JD says:

        Yeah McGinnis is our top inside target I believe and possibly McKee but haven’t heard about him..thought it was between us and Mich state

        • Zack says:

          We must have backed off McKee. I think he wanted to commit and we cooled off so he started to reconsider.

          • JD says:

            thx..hadn’t seen that

          • BleedCrimson says:

            We really need a LB coach that gets how to communicate with young ppl. I just do not get our tactics for LB recruiting. Be straight up with the kid, and show up when you say you are going to…

          • blaster1371 says:

            Watch, OU will be left holding the bag of schollies for linebacker because they held out for that one or two and they go elsewhere. I know I’m way far from being on the inside but sure is a mystery why ou doesn’t have tht position with several commits like other programs have.

          • Zack says:

            If they land McGinnis then their strategy as far as not going after Thomas would have paid off imo. And if they flip smith or go get brown then it would be almost perfect even with all the misses. It will suck if they miss on McGinnis and smith. If I could pick the one recruit that would pay off the most I would choose Houston but that’s very unlikely.

    • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

      Rip is a ferocious blocker. He’ll be a steal for any NFL team. Hoping Palange is even half as brutal.

      • Easton says:

        Palange is like a guy I would video game create to win the WWF World Championship Belt.

        • Zack says:

          I’m pretty sure in the mold of rip. J.R said he would get him into wrestling if football doesn’t pan out. I think rip will be good but unfortunately he’s a the position of least tenure in the league. JD was really good and I think lasted 5 years which is double the average full back

        • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

          Definitely not gonna win any beauty pageants soon. If he’s as mean in a helmet as he is in his roster pic, he’s gonna be fun to watch.

      • EasTex says:

        He also demonstrated he had good hands and a nose for the line to make a first down.

    • Sooner Ray says:

      Just got home from a party, didn’t get to see all the game. How did they do?

      • EasTex says:

        Didn’t see much of it, been watching the car auction.
        Think it is being replayed now.

      • cush creekmont says:

        The QBs were so bad that they could not get close to either of them. A long bomb to Blake was on the wrong side and the DB interfered – but they picked up the flag. That play would have been their longest by far. I did hear that Bell was good in the practices. In the game, he got his block most of the time, while several O-linemen were smoked by the opposing D-linemen.

  • Stephen W Hembree says:

    WILL THOMAS NOW GET AN OFFER ? DOES SOMEONE LIKE WHITFIELD FROM SPIRO,OK START TO GET SOME CONSIDERATION……. HOPING FOR SOME GOOD NEWS TOMORROW

  • Stephen says:

    Going out on a limb here, we all know that players like new uniforms. It attracts talent, it gets players excited to get on the field and such. What if we brought that concept over to the coaches? Maybe Bob is recruiting the wrong way? Who wouldn’t want to come to Oklahoma and coach in this? I’ll take my paycheck now.

  • Stephen says:

    Anyone notice the changes in conceptual master plan for the new press box? I’m not thrilled about the new cathedral style windows on either side. They first plan was better looking in my opinion.

  • JD says:

    How’s the fish biting this time of year…seen AStephens fishing at Stoops house today…hope he keeps that pond stocked with big ones!

  • Stephen says:

    Well, it looks like we won’t be seeing the Crimson pants on the sideline after all.

    https://twitter.com/LincolnRiley/status/556663430732451840?s=09

  • JD says:

    I found out why Brown decommitted on his OV

  • Stephen says:

    Because screen shots should work better.

  • EasTex says:

    A quick OT.
    For only the second time in 26 years I broke my personal boycott of movie theaters and saw American Sniper earlier today.
    I recommend it, but must say it isn’t a movie you watch as much as you “feel.”
    Chris Kyle was given the nickname “Legend” and he was certainly that, there is no telling how American servicemen lives he saved/protected.
    It’s been almost two years since he was murdered and I will never forget standing in the cold and rain with countless others to pay our respects as the 200 mile funeral procession rolled by. I went down to Hillsboro, but every bridge and every burg, ville and town along I-35 was filled with people paying their respects to an American Hero.
    I never met the man, more is the pity, but he was my brother.
    He was a beloved son of Texas.
    http://youtu.be/U53ZVfW0CIk

    • Sooner Ray says:

      I’m not going to a theater for the same reasons as you but my wife informed me today she can stream it so I will see it soon. Looks fantastic.

      • EasTex says:

        It’s intense, emotionally.
        Kudos to Clint Eastwood for such an excellent performance.

        • JD says:

          Did Cooper live up to the part…I don’t like theaters either but want to watch it…think Cooper couldn’t take those boots off after the shoot

          • EasTex says:

            It’s not that I don’t like theaters, I have a big problem with Hollywood.
            I was willing to make an exception this time because of who made it and who it was about.
            Cooper was actually quite good, considering he is nothing like the man he is pretending to be and has none of the same experiences.
            I read an article the other day that interviewed Mrs. Kyle and she has now embraced it. Meeting Eastwood and Cooper went a long way in overcoming her reticence and she claimed that Cooper actually displayed some of the little nervous twitches that Chris had.
            Chris is what we call a “Sheepdog.” Many of us that are Sheepdogs know what that means, and Chris embraced that role as a boy looking after his younger brother.
            On Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs.

          • JD says:

            That’s cool…I hope Cooper gets an Oscar and gives a well deserved shout out to all of our men and women defending our rights to argue about coaching

          • EasTex says:

            Amen to that.

          • Sooner Ray says:

            GOD BLESS THE SHEEPDOGS.

          • EasTex says:

            Yessir!
            /woof

          • hOUligan says:

            “The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.” We see it all around us today. I am a Sheepdog.

          • JB says:

            When I was training to be a police officer, one of our instructors made us read On Combat. A must read for all who serve in the military and police, and one of the greatest books I’ve ever read.

        • Daddy R says:

          Eastwood puts out some dang good films!

        • MoJoOkie says:

          Is Clint in it or does he just direct? I look forward to seeing it, but it will be at the house.

          • EasTex says:

            Clint was the director.
            Cooper originally purchased the rights and had intended to produce it, not act in it.

    • rphokc says:

      etx…….I heard about this when I was living in tx……….thank you very much for posting………

    • SamSooner says:

      My wife and I had a date night. We, too, went to see American Sniper. My father and two of my brothers served in the military. I’m eternally grateful for those who have served in our military. When I see a serviceman, policeman, I thank them.

      For those on who are on this site, thank you for your service.

    • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

      Want to hear something that’ll really boil your blood? I was listening to a left-of-center podcast the other day that was smearing Chris Kyle as a sociopath and thug. What’s up is down in this country anymore.

      A big thanks to all veterans, Sooners and otherwise, for your service to one nation under God. I will raise my kids to love their country, their state, and their Sooners.

      • jmac45 says:

        WTH man?

        • boomersooner says:

          I don’t see anything in his post that should ruffle feathers. He listened to a liberal podcast that claimed something stupid, which takes all their credibility and makes you wonder about liberals. He said thanks to veterans for putting their lives on the line for us. And as far as I can tell this is still one nation under God. So I say heard understood acknowledged

          • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

            To be fair, he could just be responding to the content of my post and affirming the shock that any sane person would feel when presented with the idea that a veteran’s service to his country makes him or her a “thug”.

          • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

            Spoke too soon.

          • MoJoOkie says:

            If it actually happened. Seems odd someone so right would be listening to something extremely left. But at the end of the day (hope everyone appreciates the phrase) this is a board dedicated to sports; specifically Oklahoma sports and predominately football. Thanks for listening.

          • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

            While I am “so right” (in more ways than one), at work I listen to a few broadcasts that span the socio-political spectrum. I try to get input from both sides. I wanted to refrain from naming the podcast, but if you’d like to know, it was the “Jimmy Dore Show”. The Young Turks also made similar remarks.

            But you’re right. This is an OU sports thread. But for me (and others, I assume), faith is not so easily separated from other modes of living.

          • MoJoOkie says:

            I don’t ever listen to that drivel from either side, so citing names has no real bearing on me. I know the reps of a few of the more notables, but avoid them like the plague. I just ain’t into pulling the correspondence down to their level either way.

          • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

            I can respect that, MoJoOkie. Thank you for your input. Boomer!

          • MoJoOkie says:

            Sooner!

          • boomersooner says:

            I respect that but just so you know the gospel knows no boundaries and has no limits

          • MoJoOkie says:

            Respect you as well, boomer. My religious views are too complex to be debated on a message board.

        • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

          Exactly my thoughts when I heard it.

      • JB says:

        I still think liberalism should be classified as a mental disorder in the DSM-IV.

        • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

          Bingo.

        • jmac45 says:

          Happy Martin Luther King day!!

          • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

            Hate to break it to you, but Jim Crow was institutionalized for federal offices by Woodrow WIlson and the Progressive movement. Progressives also championed the eugenics movement, which asserted that non-European groups were “inferior” and should be erased over time by genetic engineering. MLK was also a moral conservative. If you read his ‘Letter from a Birmingham Jail”, MLK speaks of an enduring moral order, which is a fundamental conservative tenet. Compare MLK’s letter with Russell Kirk’s “Ten Conservative Principles”.

            And if you honestly want to spare this thread of political debate, you should probably not respond anymore. All Sooners, conservative or liberal or blue or pink or whatever, are welcome on this board.

          • jmac45 says:

            Blah, blah, blah… Just go to your little Rush Limbaugh web site or your church and discuss it all you want with people of like (little) mind.

          • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

            I’ll do that. Thanks, jmac45. May we strike hands in our love for our beloved Sooners.

          • jmac45 says:

            Thanks.

          • paganpink says:

            “There are those who hate Christianity and call their hatred an all-embracing love for all religions.” – Chesterton, 1/13/1906

      • diablodejalisco says:

        he was just another big mouthed texan.

        • boomersooner says:

          Wow. If you’re talking about Chris Kyle then maybe if you ever get murdered we can talk crap about you after your gone

          • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

            Let him be. Let his comment speak for itself. “From the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks”.

        • paganpink says:

          “Men do not differ much about what things they will call evils; they differ enormously about what evils they will call excusable.” And those who mock the men protecting them are simply cowards.

      • jmac45 says:

        Don’t you right wing nuts have another place you can go and talk your drivel?? Now, you’re gonna ruin this board too.

        • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

          I don’t mind being a right-wing “nut” by left-wing standards. But you’re right: this is not the place for that kind of discussion. Another time on another board, friend.

        • paganpink says:

          “War is not ‘the best way of settling differences; it is the only way of preventing their being settled for you.” G.K. Chesterton, 1915

      • EasTex says:

        Ugh.
        The fact that men like Kyle make it possible for them to speak such nonsense freely is truly ironic.

    • blaster1371 says:

      Heard its a great movie. I had former students and Marine buddies in the Fallujah operations. I will teach about Kyle and the others when I get to that part of my U.S History class. Our children need warrior heroes as much as it need the kind of men like MLk (who is also a hero to me).

    • thebigdroot says:

      Very Good Movie. Loved that no one in the audience got up and walked out until after the funeral percession scene, thought it was classy.

    • Shelby is a Patriot says:

      I also enjoyed the movie, though it wasn’t quite what I expected it was
      still very good. Cooper did a great job, though. It didn’t have the
      attention to detail and accuracy that Lone Survivor had, but the actors
      were great. Taya Kyle’s actress was a surprise, as well, she did a nice
      job.
      As for Chris Kyle, I’m not sure how to put into words my
      appreciation for all he did for this Country and our troops while
      overseas and at home. I still remember I was texting my Dad, who had
      actually met Kyle once on a tour in Iraq, when my mom came into my room
      and told me Chris Kyle was dead. I didn’t hear her at first, and was
      shocked when I finally comprehended what she had just said. I passed the
      news on to my dad and he couldn’t believe it. Nothing quite brings you
      back down to earth like the death of a great man! He’s up there with the
      good lord and other great men and women who have sacrificed for this
      Country. I hope his family liked the movie.

  • D Hunter Sanchez says:

    D Thomas is 200 lbs. He has DB’s frame.

    • Zack says:

      He is about the same size as Sunderland. I know a lot of people like the Thomas kid because early in his highlights he makes a lot of wow plays. But I think as a linebacker he’s probably a project that needs to put on at least 25 pounds maybe 35 because he’s so tall before he can take on ball carriers one on one.
      Would like to have him because he reminds me of striker but I see why the coaches were waiting.

  • Robertson / Robertson 2016 says:

    My entire worldview was formed by the gospel of Jesus Christ and 80s professional wrestling. My family is off to celebrate one of those two things this morning. Happy Sunday to all my Sooner brothers and sister.

    Amen, erchou kyrie ‘Iesou. Amen, come Lord Jesus.

  • CKill1 says:

    Interesting facts here on the number of recruiting stars a player has and where they end up. That’s why I pay way more attention to whom we have coaching than whom is being coached.

    http://247sports.com/Article/NFC-AFC-Championship-Recruiting-Rankings-247Sports-NFL-34837307

    • Zack says:

      Thanks for posting. I would like to know how stars correlate with ncaa success though. For example jason white and josh heupel didn’t have nfl careers but they combined to start 3 championship games. And all the other guys that make up those championship contenders that never really get recognized but have an impact on those teams.

    • paganpink says:

      Loaded with 2 star and 3 star players and a number of good ones who were never ranked at all. Maybe the 5 stars have it all too easy, and the lower rated folks work harder. More likely, however, is that the people ranking and rating are little more accurate then flipping a coin.

  • Scott Hamilton says:

    Are we even attempting to reach out to Louis brown since he decommitted from Texas ????

    • Brian Beatty says:

      I haven’t heard sure hope they do!! He would a great center piece to rebuild the defense on!!

    • Jordan Esco says:

      I’ve been told to have every expectation for Montgomery to reach out (if he hasn’t already).

  • Daddy R says:

    Finally watched Riley’s presser in its entirety… I like this cat, A LOT, and wish him (and us) all the best!

    BOOMER!!!!!

  • D'Brickashaw Ferguson says:

    Either Stephens is very articulate…or he’s well-versed in a Thesaurus. Either way, big pickup and welcome!!

    https://twitter.com/Afeeva_14/status/556873971090468865

    • rphokc says:

      ………that’s refreshing to read, or, ghost twitterer?

      • Easton says:

        Huh? A kid can’t know certain words? Its actually him, yes.

        • Zack says:

          Like a ghost writer I think

          • Easton says:

            Why is there a perception that he didn’t write that?

          • boomersooner says:

            There’s no telling what some racists think

          • Easton says:

            No telling. But I’ve seen enough.

          • boomersooner says:

            I just don’t understand putting someone down no matter the circumstances. Kids happy with his future and where he’s going to start the chase of his dream and some clown on the internet has to put him down

          • Easton says:

            Gross judgements from an armchair. Antoine wins the scholarship, and has a bright future, nonetheless.

          • D'Brickashaw Ferguson says:

            Really didn’t intend for my post to turn into this. I wasn’t implying anything other than I’m happy he’s a Sooner. Apologies to TFB

          • Easton says:

            I know you didn’t. The wrong came after your post. But thanks for taking responsibility.

          • boomersooner says:

            Some people don’t know how to act. I obviously have difficulty restraining myself from reacting to those actions. You were good. Others weren’t

          • paganpink says:

            He may have been over the top. Probably was. Doesn’t make him a racist though.

          • boomersooner says:

            As I said, the only tweet I can see is the one above. Its from a black kid who uses a big word. Some nameless internet moniker rags on him. Then comes back later after a stink has been made and says its tongue in cheek. He got called on it which is what should happen. You say something, stand behind it. Be a man. That’s what’s wrong with the world nowadays. Too many little babies who were never punished. Add to that the fact you’re anonymous on the internet and all of a sudden you’ve got a bunch of spoiled little bitches who think they can say whatever they want

          • paganpink says:

            Takes one to know one.

          • boomersooner says:

            You’re calling me racist? I don’t get that

          • paganpink says:

            I think he has a valid point when compared to many of their posts. I think people are far too quick to label others as racists just because they disagree with them.

          • rphokc says:

            …bingo!….you get it!……

          • boomersooner says:

            You can talk to me. You don’t have to talk around me

          • boomersooner says:

            So the only post sitting in front of us uses a big word and some no talent douchebag comes on the internet to rag on him. That screams “nice normal guy”. I seriously doubt it. Someone’s going to call one of these kids out….I’ll call him out. Very simple

        • kt-raida says:

          I’m confused about that statement also.

      • rphokc says:

        ….good grief……it’s a tongue-in-cheek remark on the usual twitter fare that we see…….bs, oth, being the overreactive ass that he displays on many occasions, immediately cries racism……..no surprise there

        • boomersooner says:

          I shoulda realized your excessive use of ellipses is code for “tongue in cheek” and you weren’t bashing on a kid for using bigger words than you’re used to. Completely my fault there or maybe watch your mouth next time. People like you deserve to be called out. Some kid is chasing his dream and you rag on him. And now you and paganpink are acting like I’m the bad guy? That’s priceless

  • Austin says:

    Finally the silence is broke! Glad to get a BOOM out of this weekend.

  • hemisooner says:

    Great pickup. Now Dalton and Darryl need to come on board, which i believe will happen

  • Glocal Sooner says:

    BOOM!!!

  • Fear The Magic says:

    With all the Doom and Gloom over Sooner recruiting OU is now up to #12 on Rivals.
    Just think, if we had a LB coach who could actually recruit we’d be top 10.

    • Zack says:

      I think that number will keep going up hopefully somewhere around 8th. The problem is if Overton can’t sign on nsd then we lose a guy that’s rated pretty high so who knows. Hopefully the kid gets everything figured out and can sign later

    • sooner44 says:

      agreed! This surprised me and really made me appreciate our class even more. (rivals team rankings)

  • Stephen says:

    BOOM

  • AmaGoh7 says:

    Welcome to the Sooner family, Mr. Stephens. May it be a great few years of your life.

  • Boomer4life says:

    Welcome to Sooner Nation Mr Stephens!!!! Can’t wait to see you on the island at OU!

  • Easton says:

    BOOM.

  • Boom says:

    Antoine, Welcome to the OU family.

    Also, watching Louis Brown, does anyone get the sense that he is a bigger version of Whitfield? To me there seems to be a lot of similarities.

  • Ed Cotter says:

    Right on, Sweet news on Stephens!!

  • hOUligan says:

    So his decision to postpone committing lasted 3 more days!! How ya gonna keep ’em down on the farm once they’ve fished at Bob’s!! He knew where he wanted to be. Welcome to the Sooner Nation!!! BOOMer!!!

  • Dustin says:

    Does anyone else find it really easy to root against Aaron Rodgers?

  • Easton says:

    GB ball.

  • Jeff says:

    Sweet

  • rphokc says:

    real surprise, so far…….thought this would be a dog game in seattle’s favor……

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    Go Pack Go!
    Leaving way to many points on the field, though. Seattle is like a ticking time bomb. I don’t like it.

  • William Ryan says:

    Looks like where shaping out good in multiple positions recruiting wise love the commit at corner back…. but where is the lbs at we let thomas slip thru our finger are we truly only trying to sign McGinnis? We need to sign at least 3 in order to run the the 34 defence

  • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

    Word of advice to the Brainiacs: don’t show Kish’s picture with Van Jefferson. The Kish haters will throw a fit.

    Sh** sorry I ruined it.

  • bmrsnr says:

    @J_Smitty31: “Commitment is not Convenient” a great statement I received from great men. Food for thought ������������ #demandtobeknown #smithbrosontherise

    Who is our next LB offer?

  • Tucker says:

    So any idea on a decommitment date for Van Jefferson??? :DDD

  • Shelby is a Patriot says:

    Go Pats! 😀

  • rphokc says:

    ….damn, as dramatic as a game can get……..gb let it slip thru

  • SoonerinLondon says:

    My Packers just displayed the worst choke I have ever seen from a football team. Wow, was that an embarrassment.

    • rphokc says:

      …….they were so close on several occasions in reg to put it away and didn’t……..they collapsed in ot

      • Daddy R says:

        I went to take a shower after the TD with 2 minutes remaining. I come back and crosby is kicking to send it into OT! I was like, WTH just happened?

    • Tucker says:

      Yep… can’t believe. Completely torn up over here.

      • hOUligan says:

        Me too. Am a stockholder and fan since I met Forrest Gregg when I was a wee sprout. When Burnett with down with that INT instead of trying to max the time usage and get more yds then they run up the middle to ‘use time’ instead of trying to win…it brought back the whole Ostate thing where OU thought they had won on Sanchez’s INT and quit playing to win. Like a punch to the gut.

        • rphokc says:

          …….if I remember correctly, earlier in the ffg/td drive where gb had them in 3rd and 20 something, went ou and seattle converted……I do feel for the gb player on the on-side……

  • Boomer4life says:

    Think this will be one of the best Super Bowls in a long time! Can’t wait!

  • Daddy R says:

    Craziest stats:
    Russel Wilson is now 10-0 vs Super Bowl winners.
    Russel Wilson’s teams, going back to NC State, have held a lead in the game at least once, for what is now 83 straight games! Whhaaat!?

  • Katyboomer says:

    A Stephens Sr Hudi film link for anybody that wants to watch again:
    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2975184/antoine-stephens

  • hOUligan says:

    So where is Darreyl Patterson? Guy is aching for an OU offer, does an OV, and no commit? Thought he’d be the one commit we got this weekend. Don’t tell me he is going all Jalin Barnett on us.

  • Stephen says:

    What is in that Tennessee water? Didn’t they just take 2 or 3 QB’s in this year’s class? Why go there and sit when you can compete for a start in 2016.

  • rphokc says:

    …….too bad, all the drama was in the first game……..colts aren’t ready for the big stage yet, a draft or 2 away maybe
    ..think seattle will win, but brady is a money qb and there is the belichick factor……just want a good game on a par with gb if possible

    • Boom says:

      If anyone gets close to Brady, there will be an automatic flag. Horrible.

    • BloodRed says:

      belichick factor? I think your slighting Ole’ Petey here…? You must have forgotten the 55-19 azz whoopin’ he put on yours truly…? Folks I think stoops is a good family man…But when it comes to an actual “real big game” we are outclassed…Hope Stoops can learn from his failures but I just don’t think the man has it in em’..Beating a Bowden is okay. We have never lost to fsu in a bowl game. But beating a team who is coached well when it matters….priceless…!

      • rphokc says:

        ……didn’t slight pete, no reference to ou, and have you been here before under another name……..just curious, you sound familiar

        • BloodRed says:

          Familiar?? You slighted ole’petey and I’m just going correct you on that? Take it as you may….And yes my name is familiar…You like?

        • Sooner Ray says:

          Yep, you are correct.

          • BloodRed says:

            Yeah he would be correct if he asked what is Petey’s record in playoff games etc.. Better yet what is Ole’ petey’s record in bowl games I’m talking Major Bowls now…? Really I’d like to know myself, don’t follow petey but I know he got us pretty good.

      • lefty67 says:

        Not to nitpick, but the only time OU lost to FSU was in a bowl game.

  • Katyboomer says:

    “- UPDATE (Sun., 12:12 pm): Sooners pick up a commitment
    from 2015 CB Antoine Stephens. We’ll have more later today, but just
    wanted to get up the good news.”

    Later Yet? JK

  • Katyboomer says:

    Found this on another website thought I would post it here to see what your thoughts were on who the new WR coach would be. I am thinking Dennis Simmons may be the guy only because he is in the system right now.

    Keenan
    McCardell – Maryland WRs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgg_tuB3vk8

    Dennis
    Simmons – WSU WRs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovAwzDy1bLg

    Delvaughn
    Alexander – ASU WRs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-FdksTRVO0

  • BloodRed says:

    Well Being a Veteran of Iraq myself I think I’m going to check out this new movie…OU……

  • Lane Gilstrap says:

    Did Marquis Overton decommit?

  • EasTex says:

    Mama was happy.

    OU Sooners put on an impressive visit for @DaishonNeal90. Thanks to @OU_CoachStoops for the hospitality! First Class! pic.twitter.com/9SVExU9HZT— DaLana Neal Guess (@dalana13) January 19, 2015

  • Docknoss says:

    Shane Buechele Arlington, TX Listed as dual threat QB 6’2″ 185
    Jarrett Guarantano Oradell, NJ Listed as pro style QB 6’4″ 200

    I’d rather have a local kid, than someone from NJ. To much of a culture shock coming from NJ to Norman. Not alot of difference in size, but style there is. Looks like Jarrett would work out better in Riley’s offense. But I also haven’t seen Shane throw the ball, I do know passing fundamentals will be the selling point of QB’s to come

    • EasTex says:

      There is some video on hudl for Shane, but it is limited.

      • Docknoss says:

        Very appreciated EasTex

        • EasTex says:

          Welcome.
          If I had my way I would go with Guarantano, he is bigger, faster and more athletic.

          • Zack says:

            I think there’s a chance we just haven’t reached out to guarantano since the change was made and that could be why we’re on the outside for now. I would take shea Patterson over both but I doubt we will be considered

          • EasTex says:

            I thought I saw a favorable tweet by Guarantano after Riley was announced?
            We’ll see, young man is going to hear lots of things from lots of people in the next year.

    • rphokc says:

      ……..no problem, al eshbach left jersey for here…..

      • Sooner Ray says:

        That’s encouraging. 🙂

      • Docknoss says:

        AL Eschbach is horrendous to listen to. Just constant stuttering and asking Traber his opinion’s on subject matters and then making them his own. Can’t stand him

        • rphokc says:

          yeah, for many yrs he was the souce for anything ou and now he stutters, stammers and shouts a good deal of the time while not really knowing anything worthwhile…….he must be around 70 yo now

    • John Tolomeo says:

      have you ever been to jersey or just seen jersey shore lol.

    • Clint Lenard says:

      So you’d rather take a kid who’s not quite as good because you’re afraid that he may or may not experience culture shock? It’s Oklahoma, not Russia. I’m from California and loved visiting Oklahoma.

      • Docknoss says:

        With Riley taking the Helm, he will probably be able to recruit just about any QB he wants. After a year or Two of showing what he can do at a A1 School. But as of now OU isn’t on Jarrett’s Radar.

  • EasTex says:

    Dang, American Sniper is blowing the doors off of the box office.

    It’s the best four-day opening ever for an R-rated movie, and will easily eclipse the $68.5 million that “Avatar” opened to in 2010 as the best January debut ever.

    http://www.thewrap.com/ameican-sniper-aims-for-100-million-after-blowing-away-january-box-office-record/

    • rphokc says:

      ..I would assume you’ve read quite a bit about mr kyle………if so, is the film accurate in your opinion…………thxs

      • EasTex says:

        It is pretty faithful to the book and is non-political.
        There are some glitches, there usually are, but nothing that detracts from the story.

    • Shelby is a Patriot says:

      A beautiful thing, for sure. Nice to see there are still a lot people out there who care for our Service Men.

      • EasTex says:

        People love Heroes, especially if they are for real and not a comic book character.

        • Shelby is a Patriot says:

          I never understand why Hollywood bothers making up their own story and characters in War flicks when there are so many incredible real stories of real men that need to be told!

    • Zack says:

      That’s crazy how many have gone to see it, I wouldn’t have thought avatar would be that far behind that movie hit a billion in like 17 days. Like you I’m not much for theaters so I plan to wait for redbox to have it.

    • Docknoss says:

      Liberal film reviewers haven’t been giving it a good Metacritic. But so far everyone else is Raving about it.

      • hOUligan says:

        I see little Mikey Moore has spoken out against the film, Kyle and snipers in general as ‘being cowards’. Didn’t think he could fall any lower in my estimation. Guess I was wrong, again.

  • EasTex says:

    Don’t care about the NFL, but this story is interesting…especially if it is true.
    http://www.wthr.com/story/27881499/source-tells-bob-kravitz-that-patriots-may-have-deflated-footballs-against-colts

  • BloodRed says:

    ****BOOM****https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjYeREIHCsw

  • BloodRed says:

    “Always be humble, stay in the moment, & learn from great coaches who have a great desire to win” …BloodRed

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIQS6nHnZY