Open Post | Weekend, August 15th – 17th (UPDATE Sun., 1:45 pm)
Posted on: August 15, 2014
Image via OU Football Facebook
Happy Friday y’all!
The recruiting front has been a little quiet lately as the coaches focus right now on getting the team ready for the season opener. But we’ve managed to gather a couple nuggets we’ll share with you now.
– Anthony Wheeler: We checked in with 2015 OU LB target Anthony Wheeler to see if he was any closer to making a decision. Earlier in the summer, Wheeler was considering making his decision before the season and it looked like OU and Texas were in the best spot to win his services. But now Wheeler says the decision will come “after my officials.” He did say that OU is a school he is planning on taking an official to and would like to attend the Tennessee game, but nothing has been set up yet. According to him the three officials he is looking to take are to Oklahoma, Texas, and Baylor.
– Darius Anderson: Recently, 2016 DL Darius Anderson from the Houston area mentioned that he’d be taking an unofficial visit to OU this summer. With high school practices starting and school close to opening, that trip did not happen. But Darius told us earlier this week that even though he wasn’t able to make it down, he’s “still gonna get down to a game” this season. It’s interesting how many 2016 athletes actually want an OU offer and are looking to make the trip up to Norman to get it.
– Mike Williams: Related to the point above, another 2016 DL that really wants an OU offer is Mike Williams from Ft. Worth. Williams had been trying to get up to Norman all summer and finally did a couple weeks back. The Oklahoma staff told Williams they’ll be down to see him early in the season. Last night Ohio State extended an offer to Williams, so it’ll be interesting to see if OU decides to go ahead and get in a little quicker since he seems to be drawing so much attention. With last night’s Ohio State offer, Williams is now holding nine offers including one from Michigan and TCU. But in chatting with Williams last night it seems clear an OU offer would be big to him.
– Malik Jefferson: We haven’t managed to squeeze any information out of Malik Jefferson lately, but in a slow recruiting cycle we thought Jefferson’s Twitter reply to TAMU commit Daylon Mack was Open Post worthy:
There was a time when it seemed that Malik’s commitment to Texas A&M was simply a when not if, and even though most feel Texas is the school to beat after TAMU, Malik’s recent trip to OU really did open his eyes. In fact we got word that Malik’s mother made it a point to get in touch with one of the coaches, and express how much of an impression they had made on her and her son. So while OU’s chances may still be somewhat slim, the above tweet a couple weeks after the OU visit perhaps gives a glimmer of hope that the window is at least open for someone.
– Scrimmage Notes: Yesterday was Oklahoma’s final fall scrimmage. Today, OU players will have their last fall practice. They’ll break for the weekend and then come back and start their normal fall semester practice regime and La Tech prep on Monday.
– Firstly, we were told the scrimmage and overall execution were MUCH better than last Sunday. We were told that while they still has some cleaning up to do, they looked like a totally different team. Both sides had some big plays. Receivers were more consistent overall, but the coverage was also pretty tight.
– One of the coolest things we heard about yesterday’s practice was that Julian Wilson apparently locked up Dorial Green-Beckham. Wilson didn’t play for too many series, but apparently when he did he was matched up with DGB and gave him all he wanted. We were told he was very physical with Green-Beckham. Wilson worked extensively with the REAL DB guru, coach Chip Viney, in the offseason and word is that showed up in fall camp. It’ll be interesting to watch him go against the smaller quicker outside receivers, but we continue to hear good things.
– Alex Ross and Keith Ford alternated and took most of the first team reps. Samaje Perine’s reps were somewhat decreased this past week, but that really isn’t because of anything wrong he’s doing. Our guess is that they’ll likely work him into the rotation gradually. But it sounds like the staff is very happy with the RBs they have. We expect Ford and Ross to take most of the early season snaps, with Samaje getting more and more reps as the season goes on. Depending, of course, on how he looks when he’s in live game situations.
Overall though we heard that the RB’s still seem pretty even. We were also told that if the RBs continue to get better at the rate that they are, then OU will be able to beat anyone.
– Word we got is that Jordan Evans did not scrimmage yesterday…no worries though it’s not an injury thing.
– Earlier in the week there was a lot of praise from the coaches for freshman CB Jordan Thomas. We asked a source how he looked in the first scrimmage and apparently he looked really good. The only knock on him at this point is his strength, which is not really a surprise for a freshman. Thomas is running behind Julian Wilson on one side, and Dakota Austin took 2nd team reps behind Zack Sanchez on the other.
– Geneo Grissom, once again, was virtually impossible to block in yesterday’s scrimmage.
– Heard that Blake Bell is performing in scrimmages like he’s been playing TE for years.
– True freshman Justice Hansen ran some second team QB and just appears to be a better fit for the offense OU is running when compared to Cody Thomas. Nothing is written in stone at this point, and when/if Baker Mayfield were to be cleared there is very little question he’d be the primary backup to Trevor Knight, but Hansen has performed well enough he could legitimately pass Thomas on the depth chart.
– Michiah Quick and KJ Young were the two names at WR we were told stood out in yesterday’s scrimmage. Between those two and Sterling Shepard, OU will have a potentially lethal trio of slot WRs at their disposal this season.
– Also were told that Eric Striker and Taylor McNamara seem to go back and forth quite a bit and it has become quite the competition. Heard Striker blew McNamara up yesterday on one particular play, but overall we’re told that Striker has made McNamara a tougher player. Which is obviously a good thing and is exactly why each side helps the other…iron sharpens iron.
– Steven Parker apparently ran with the first team quite a bit yesterday and once again looked really good. We continue to hear that both he and Ahmad Thomas have had great camps. We get the sense that Q.Hayes will start the season at SS with Thomas at FS, but Parker will absolutely get his opportunity. We suspect in the nickel package, when Hayes comes down to Wilson’s old spot, Parker will start to get reps at SS.
– UPDATE (Fri., 1:15 pm): This isn’t really team (current-wise) or recruiting related, but figured you all would like to know.
Rookie WR Jalen Saunders was involved in a single-car accident this morning on the way to the Jets practice facility…
— New York Jets (@nyjets) August 15, 2014
…Saunders was taken to the hospital & is being monitored as a precaution. He won't travel to CIN and is out for Saturday's game.
— New York Jets (@nyjets) August 15, 2014
– UPDATE (Fri., 2:40 pm): There are now a plethora of reports that the Cleveland County DA has charged OU running back Joe Mixon with one misdemeanor count of ‘outraging public decency’ (or acts resulting in gross injury). Still no official statement from Oklahoma, though one has to assume they knew this was coming so we could have something before the day is out. We’ll continue to provide updates as they become available.
– UPDATE (Fri., 4:05 pm): Official statement from OU (which doesn’t say much, but it’s what we’re getting for now).
Statement from OU Vice President for Intercollegiate Athletics Programs and Athletics Director Joe Castiglione: pic.twitter.com/yQxDZpuAnh
— Oklahoma Football (@OU_Football) August 15, 2014
– UPDATE (Sat., 5:50 pm): Last night former OU commit and Tulsa player Dalton Rodriguez tweeted out:
Blessed with a new opportunity to be able to play at the University of Oklahoma
— Dalton Rodriguez (@DaltonRod96) August 15, 2014
We’ve been able to confirm that Rodriguez is in the process of trying to transfer to OU but whether it comes to fruition will just depend on if it works out academically. If it does work out, he is being brought in as a defensive lineman. He was originally recruited by OU as an offensive lineman but now that OU has moved to an add front he fits better.
– UPDATE (Sat., 6:26 pm): Just checked in with Dalton Rodgriguez and he says that it is official. He has transferred to OU and has moved in today and is ready to start classes.
– UPDATE (Sat., 6:28 pm): Also, Dalton tells us that he will be a walk-on and will attempt to earn a scholarship. This sounds like a win win for OU.
– UPDATE (Sun., 1:45 pm): I (Jordan) suspect most of you could care less — and I’m right there with ya — but for those who may, OU checks in at No. 4 in the first AP Poll of the CFB season.
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Scrimmage notes and BOOM goes the dynamite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45DRy7M1no
Don’t make the telipromter guy mad…..he’ll make you look like a fool.
Love this guy! I had a manager that lived in the same drom as this huy when it get popular. He was not a happy camper, tosay the least.
Poor kid was killing me! Boom goes the Dynamite is at 2:30.
Hey Jordan, has there been any further discussion on the possibility of a podcast? I know it’s been thrown about some in the past, but I didn’t know if TFB’s were any closer to making this a reality. I personally think this is a great idea, as are all things produced for my enjoyment that require no effort from me and are free of charge.
So now that we’ve established that the only thing required to make this happen is YOUR EFFORT and YOUR MONEY, can you please tell me why this hasn’t happened yet?
Seriously though, to do this right requires an investment for equipment, bandwidth, software, etc., I get that, but I would think there’s enough people around here that a GoFundMe page would help alleviate/eliminate the financial burden of getting this project off the ground (“Hey, no big deal”, says the guy who’s doing nothing!). I’m sure it isn’t all about the money, but I’ll lead by example and let you double my subscription fee. Hell, I’m a team player, I’ll let you triple it if that’s what it takes!
I’m sure there’s more to it than just gathering money and me wanting this to happen. I just wanted to reiterate some of the conversation from when you first came on board, as there’s a lot of us who would love to see this come to fruition.
Just wanted to put that out there, and as always, thanks for all that you guys do!
You guys are gonna have to go after K on this one – sorry, K 😉
I’ve brought it up many a time, literally since the first day I came on at TFB. I’m all for it, but right now I’m not sure how close it would be to happening. There are plenty of free methods to do it, that’s how I’ve done it before. I mean obviously you could invest in equipment and what not, but I don’t believe it’s necessary to do a show.
We want to make it happen, but there are some other things (some exciting things) going on behind the scenes right now that I think have just taken priority. But we know some of you want it, as do I, so we’ll continue to work to try and make it happen.
It’s settled then, we’ll just put K on blast until this happens! ( ;
Hopefully a podcast will come together at some point, but it’s easy to understand why it might not be top priority right now. I know a lot of personal sacrifice must take place for this site to function every day just as it is. I don’t see anything here generating revenue which makes what you guys do even more spectacular. I think most everyone here recognizes these things which may be why this place doesn’t have the normal sampling of troublemakers and trolls. Thank goodness for that.
This place is awesome. You guys just keep on keeping on and thanks for all that you do!
appreciate the kind words, my friend
Amen my friend! I’m rarely able to comment anymore because of my new job, but not a day’s goes by that I don’t at the very least take 5 minutes to check in on what’s going on here. Keep it up please.
Hey Pit, what’s up?! Hope everything is going well with the new job. I’m in the same boat, just too busy to comment most of the time.
Are you going to be able to break away for any games this season?
I really don’ know. Everything seems to change down here every time I go home. I really get nervous when it comes to planning something. I do know this though, tomorrow around 3 pm. I’ll be flying up I20 and I35 north toward God’s country!
What is a podcast and how would it be utilized? tia; oldfart
In this case, a podcast would be the brain trust from this website getting together for thirty minutes or an hour and talking OU Football! You could listen live on your computer or download it to the media player on your phone, computer or any compatible device for playback at a later time.
Thanks for the updates. Hoping we pull both those kids out of poteet. If the moms love ou that’s where the kid needs to go. And when tamu misses a bowl game this year, I wonder how many recruits jump ship.
Hard to say how many will jump ship, but if that happens they’ll sure be doing a hell of a lot of damage control.
It’s hard to imagine a scenario where they don’t win six games, but wow, that would be awesome!
Question on the recruiting numbers… looking down the list of big schools and competitors for names at http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CompositeTeamRankings – does the fact that we have less committed now actually give us a better chance in the remaining talent as other teams become way more selective as they fill out their numbers? Some of those bigger programs already have 20+ committed! With a big season, being the highest ranked team with open spots and Natty aspirations for multiple years has to help right?!
Possibly, but this isn’t really any different than any other year for OU. They’ve always been pretty diligent in their evals and held a number of offers for kids who don’t truly emerge until their senior seasons. OU just hasn’t ever really taken that approach of filling up super early like Texas used to do.
You mean South Carolina will have to become more selective since they already have 28 commits? 🙂
Here’s a what-if question………Let’s assume that Frank Shannon plays the season due to the suspension being tied up in court. Further, we play for a NC and win. The legal process finishes after the season and the suspension is upheld. Do we run any risk for playing an ineligible player?
I’d have to do some research, but since this is a university issue and not NCAA I’d think your scenario of losing the title would not apply. But I do NOT know that to be a fact, merely an assumption on my part at this point.
Regardless, if that is a possibility then I have to believe the coaches w/b made aware and are certainly smart enough not to risk playing him.
Thanks Jordan. Dang I want him to be able to play. He’s money.
I think Evans’ ceiling is much higher, but there is no arguing Shannon is experienced & reliable in the middle. Would hate to lose him, if for no other reason than depth.
I agree that shannon is important but I think the guys behind him may be better and I could see next year with Grissom leaving, stoops moving shannon over to jack. I think he’s a better pass rusher than it would seem. And maybe it was just the line last year being exposed that made Shannon’s job a little harder but I don’t think his lateral quickness is good enough. Yes he led the team in tackles but a freshman who didn’t play much until Nelson went out, was right behind him in tackles.
I know many will disagree but I saw many moments from shannon last year like the one where tapper out ran striker in the sugar bowl.
JMO, but I don’t see Shannon at the Jack at all. If you’re gonna move a guy there next year, IMO it’d be Bond or maybe even Obo (and of course if Striker comes back you could always move him as well)
I wasn’t even thinking of bond but that’s probably right. I just wouldn’t be surprised if Evans and Alexander are the starters for 2015. I guess they could go to a true 3-4 and play Evans outside (if striker leaves)
are bond and obo playing inside this year?
Not that I’m aware of.
Obo is backing up Geno.
NCAA certainly stuck their nose into Happy Valley despite it being a federal criminal issue. They have a broad “for the good of the game” clause in their by-laws that they used to leverage sanctions. While there was a huge cover up in that case, that won’t be a problem at OU. I can’t see Stoops tolerating Shannon’s behavior, if it occurred, based on how he has dealt with others.
I can’t imagine Stoops taking the chance if that were even remotely possible.
Yup totally agree:-)
This is a school suspension that is being blocked by the courts. My guess is that the ncaa won’t step in because until it goes thru the process he isn’t an ineligible player and allowed to play…No way no how would Stoops have him taking 1 reps or even playing if they could be punished for it
Always appreciate the practice notes and recruiting news. For some of the young men that have difficulty getting to Norman for an unofficial or a game, they should be reminded that this year’s RRS OU is the home team and can host recruits.
*P.S. I think the blockquote html was left open after the Jefferson tweet.
I think I fixed the quote issue. Or are you still seeing it?
You fixed it.
this WP editor will do that sometimes for as far as I can tell no explicable reason. so I’ll just link to it instead.
Not a problem, just wanted to point it out as a courtesy. I hate it when that happens, just makes the format look odd.
I appreciate you doing so.
thanks guys! Seriously! This is great stuff! What’s happened with Byrd? Just totally passed by Thomas? Also, Can you explain the difference in our safeties? In my mind, strong safeties are traditionally the in-the-box run support guys with FS doing more in coverage..it almost seems as if Stoops scheme has those roles reversed?
Stoops has said that in this scheme his safeties s/b pretty much interchangeable. And they’ll find a role for Byrd. It sounds like Thomas just has a slight edge on him right now, but they’ll need both (and Parker) plenty this year.
love what I’m hearing about TEs these days but until I see it during the season I cant believe it. The hype surrounding Metoyer out of fall camp has forever changed the way I look at fall camp “news”. The way they were talking out of 2012 camp, he was going to have 1,000 yards as a true freshman.
Can’t blame you in the slightest. I take a similar approach, just been burned way too many times buying into the hype.
Amazing update. Thank you!
Some thoughts.
I’m getting excited about Wilson at corner. I was skeptical at first, but from all accounts, he is doing quite well. Having he and Sanchez locking down the corners is definitely a plus for our defense.
How far behind is Mixon? He isn’t practicing still, correct? Is he attending practices in any way? If he was cleared this week, how long would it take him to get on the field?
I had MUCH higher hopes for Cortez Johnson. Dude can’t even break the 4 deep at CB this year? Jeez.
Mixon is not currently practicing. Has been there very little as I understand it. And while he is obviously talented, he’s still a true freshman. So missing virtually all of fall camp, I’d have to think it would take him considerable time to get caught up.
Maybe if he gets cleared and is available they could start off w/ some type of limited role and then gradually build on it. But at this point, with still no resolution as to this investigation, it is anyone’s guess as to what they’ll do.
I always thought Cortez Johnson and Quincy Russell would be can’t miss athletes. Shows how much I know.
……2 disappointments for sure………..qr with all the hype and he doesn’t get even mentioned in practice reports or by other players, so far……….thought cj was going to be a real deal when he followed mstoops here from zona
Thanks for the Friday fix. I feel like I can make it through my day now.
There are 15 days til kickoff and texas still sucks.
*Texsa
At some point I would love to hear how OUr O-line is doing in a practice report. An experienced and talented group that I have high expectations from this year and the key to success on offense.
JMO, but Malik Jefferson as an inside LB would fit Mike’s Tampa Two incredibly well and the young man could make a ton of money playing that position in the pros. Those backers that can cover deeper are more rare than backers that can just rush and play run. I think most teams other than OU are recruiting him for the outside, and he could play that but I think he would be selling himself short. Again JMO.
Who took 2nd team reps at ILB?
15 Days Till Football Time in Oklahoma! #15 today is the Quarterback that NEVER lost… 2x National Champion in 1955 and 56, started more than half of the games at QB for Coach Wilkinson during the 47 game winning streak going 25-0!! The late, great Jimmy Harris… Boomer!!
I’m reading The Undefeated by Jim Dent right now. Awesome book.
Just got my copy in the post today too!
What a great champion, in football and life. He passed away a few years ago in Shreveport where he had been running his independent oil business for many moons.
He was my first hero QB, as it was 1955 when I first started following the Sooners.
Wow. Young fella,huh? Good for you EasTex! BOOMER SOONER.
HA!
And getting better every danged day.
Same same. Got me by a couple EasTex but don’t slow down. Ha BOOMER SOONER
Can’t…if I slow down I’m done.
I was reading up on him on the Oklahoma Sports HoF page and the man was an absolute winner in life… sports, business, personal life… Definitely a worthy hero!
Orange Bowl 1-1-56
You will see #17 at Qb some, as OU was so talented they ran a “Go-Go” offense, with basically two 1st team offensive units.
Love that the undefeated starting QB is also playing safety! 50s football was awesome!
the forearm shuck the OU guy threw as he was running downfield just after the 3 min mark was bad @$$
It were bad.
What a wonderful show!
It really is and has one of the best soundtracks ever.
Thanks for sharing that! My Uncle is in a lot of those highlights. I still love watching those highlights to go along with the stories he has shared with us.
faceguard? We don’t need no stinkin’ facegard…
http://instagram.com/p/ruZhuvi4Ht/
If only he’d have been hanging upside down out of the back swinging the flag.
Love OUr coach and his team.
What was being tossed out to the players from the wagon?
That’s no wagon, that’s our new food truck delivering high quality snacks and other goodies to the team! 🙂
Boomer and Sooner got double duty with the new ncaa rule on food quantity…Miss Tiff gonna make sure they get their sups as well so they don’t cramp up in a few weeks
Ice cream
http://instagram.com/p/rudmHXl80L/
Hmmm, IDK about your guesses re: SS and FS. I’m pretty sure Byrd walked out with the 1st team defense in the Red/White game and I bet he’ll be out there when La Tech snaps their first ball. I think Hayes is likely the odd man out and will be relegated to Dime packages and Parker will rotate in to spell Byrd and/or Thomas. Obviously, this is a huge speculation on my part, but I just don’t see Byrd not being a part of our starting defense.
I just can’t seem them benching a senior and by far their most experienced returning guy in a very inexperienced secondary.
Aug. 20: University of Oklahoma,
1-4 pm with Chris Childers and Houston Nutt-Channel 91
For you Sirus XM Sat users, Chris will address DGB, Mixon and Shannon and much more.
Remember he said Oklahoma is an embarrasment to college football on his show last week
BOOMER SOONER
Media sources just seem to not have anything good to say about OU and we will just have to live with that.
https://twitter.com/PeteMoris/status/500323842284199936
They block out the Sooner Schooner and the Sun!
Orso is a monster
Yeah but he’s only a three star…
He actually started as a 2 star. Was bumped after his commitment to OU.
Looks like alt number day
yep, last day of camp tradition (of sorts)
Good times in South Bend
https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/500345142650613760
Are we interested? JK JK
Can’t seems to find a story on it…
Found one!
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/8/15/6006561/notre-dame-football-academics-investigation-players
Prayers going out to Jalen Saunders.
What’s the haps on Stanvon Taylor? Is he just being outplayed, or is he one of those guys that looked way better in HS and won’t likely ever contribute in college or somewhere in between?
He was head to head w Dakota last year…looks like Thomas is just a stud
Just wondering. We hear about nearly every other CB except him. That’s not just here either. That’s on Scout, Rivals, etc. Just don’t hear about him.
We were told Stanvon didn’t go yesterday. He’s got good athleticism but still needs time to develop his technique.
Lots written how this DGB thing is the wrong move by Coach and such. And almost w/out exception nothing has been posted on second chances. OK then – all have an opinion and suspect whatever your’s is – it’s as valid as mine. However, and perhaps it’s just my age or nature but, I have often reflected on what and where life might have taken me had not caring and responsible adults interceded in my behalf… those times I know about and those I don’t. So a shout out and belated very humble Thank You to those that took a chance on me. I sincerely hope I have repaid a debt that can not ever be repaid. Dorial – ya listening?
Must mention that it was ultimately up to you in seizing the opportunities to take a better path.
For some, they learn much too late, like the guy in this story who was a fabulous football player in high school. He learned, but wasted much of his life before he did.
http://www.marshallnewsmessenger.com/blogs/its_a_long_story/marshall-still-looks-good-after-years-away/article_a9988e28-1ea8-11e4-b05f-0019bb2963f4.html
https://twitter.com/OU_CoachNorvell/status/500357927346380801
A stud receiver that Mark Clayton was… and probably still is..
Best I remember Mark arrived at OU weighing 165 lb.
We’ve certainly had some good ones come thru town since Bob took over.
Clayton was a great Sooner! DGB looks big enough to actually play OL in that 66 jersey! Lets get that waiver then those Championships!
Really wish we could have seen more of Bradford passing to Clayton during his rookie season. I wish all good things for Mark Clayton.
https://twitter.com/john_shinn/status/500359708843470848
So, anybody have a guess on an over/under for the DA to decide anything? another 4 weeks?
15 minutes?
Hey, you know what? F U buddy*.. who would have expected it to happen this quickly! lmao!
*In a total, joking context of course. Lord knows context can be everything!
I think it is close to winding down. I don’t think OU will dismiss him. I mean it seems like a pretty standard “We gotta throw something at him to keep everyone happy” type thing. I think he will redshirt though. And the more I read about everything the more I think it is all WAY too fishy. If it was as serious as she claims he would have been arrested weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/GuerinEmig/status/500363593926586369
https://twitter.com/GuerinEmig/status/500364066075185153
I’m just confused how she doesn’t fit the same statute as Joe, minus the gross injury. She could easily have been charged with outraging public decency as well, or public intox, or disturbing the peace. No charges seems odd. Right or wrong on Joe’s part aside, she must have severely provoked him, or his charge would be felony assault, no?
One would think. From what I’ve heard, Mashburn isn’t shy to prosecute and Mixon could easily have been charged with aggravated A&B given her injuries so there must have been some mitigating circumstances in play. However, there may not have been enough evidence to charge her? Not really sure.
Or Minor Under the influence, Minor in Possession, Public Intoxication just to name what the facts of the case would seem to demand.
Sounds like pretty good news actually.
I’m not going to even get into the right or wrong of it, so please don’t let this devolve into something ridiculous.
But I thought all along if it was just a misdemeanor that he’d be allowed back on the team. We’ll have to wait and see what Bob does.
And the shoe drops… “gross injury” – my goodness.
Could they potentially move Byrd to the jack or is he to small?
Hope we get a Mixon result today so he can start fresh on Monday.
Mixon charged with misdemeonor
http://www.koco.com/news/cleveland-county-da-to-file-misdemeanor-charge-against-ou-football-player-joe-mixon/27510880
Joe Mixon update added.
What class is the misdemeanor, A, B or C? It matters.
Oklahoma doesn’t classify misdemeanors as 1,2,3, or A,B,C, as some states do, EasTex.
Oh, thanks.
Here is the statute defining the crime
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=68956
The Misdemeanor charge against Mixon was filed 10 minutes ago in Cleveland County.
DA has also said he won’t be releasing the surveillance video.
Damn, I would have hoped to see this so everyone could make up their own minds. I would think that having the video released would benefit Mixon the most seeing as how public perception will probably be worse than the actual incident.
One way to get it out is a trial.
I’ll be surprised if this makes it to trial.
Perhaps, but with her skating on charges and having threatened a civil suit from day one Joe having a day in court to bring all the evidence into the open may help him in the long run. Of course, if events don’t match his account they could be damaging.
Will the police report get released without a trial?
I don’t know, but it would seem to be a public record.
Video is Pickleman’s property and they may not want it released due to potentially pending civil case. We shall see.
Joe and his attorney certainly know more than we do and he may just want this to be over with as soon as possible, but were it me I think I would want a jury to see all the evidence.
+1, also friends and family… Think of all the judgment he will receive from his peers for being a “woman beater”.
So when do I get my Johnny’s Charcoal Broiler? Please refer my post in yesterday’s Daily Update Page regarding the Joe Mixon case…….
LOL!
Wait for the other shoe…wait for it…
We have to wait on the three game suspension forecast to give you full props LongBomber! And at least one report has Amelia Ray not being charged at all.
Even Nostradamus wasn’t perfect……maybe just a pickle or the bun if nothing else.
I didn’t see rain in the forecast…yet the flood gates are open.
A few clouds, I like to call it widely scattered sunshine.
https://twitter.com/rnolan66/status/500376527897653248
I will say the last 2 transfers seem to have fit in nicely. I still think the trouble found DGB in mizzou because he never left home. Had he come here originally I think we would have possibly seen less issues.
https://twitter.com/tbhmcNEal/status/500376088409681920
I’m just gonna say ou leads for both right now.
Based on what?
I think ou obviously made a huge impression on Jeffersons mom. And McNeal has said that ou is recruiting him to play h-back which is what he wants to do where other teams want him to play linebacker.
What about Texas though? I think both of them were fairly high on Texas.
They may be I want to know who all is recruiting McNeal for offense and who is recruiting him for defense.
He seems a bit under weight to play H back in this offense at 210lbs. Not that he won’t have time to add weight if that’s what he wants to do.
Well that’s a good point but he looks massive I’m not sure 210 is accurate. But for his frame he looks like he could get to 250 and still maintain his athleticism.
I would need to loon up what weight flowers and Millard were going into their senior year of HS.
247 has Malik going to ATM for what that’s worth. And snagging players off the same team is their standard M.O.
Well yeah but I’m also betting on a bad season from them. Oui/247 had interviewed him and he said he’s willing to leave texas and I believe ou was the only school outside of texas in his top 5.
Well I think ATM implodes this season in a huge fireball.
I agree. New qb with a team that really won in spite of poor play from everyone not named JFF or Evans.
McNeal also listed at 228 on 247 so a bit of a discrepancy. Between them and rivals.
And crickets…is something else going on this seems like some positive news?
https://twitter.com/jasonkersey/status/500378933548699648
https://twitter.com/jasonkersey/status/500379081968336896
What a stupid thing for a DA to say. If i’m Mixon’s lawyer and this goes to trial that’s the first line of my opening argument.
It would almost make him decide TO take this to trial. Joe and his lawyer do have a choice. But I doubt a trial occurs…
The woman has already said she wants to sue him, and with the money he could make in the NFL one day I wouldnt want to risk it by pleading guilty to anything. I’d fight it.
She’d need to file before he makes the NFL though… I would assume statute of limitations would run out if she waits until he has money. Plus, any court would see that she waited, strictly for the money.. And not sure she could win a large amount if she filed civil suit now, because as far as I’m aware, courts dont issue based off “future earnings potential.” But I could be wrong… its been known to happen from time to time.. lol
She could file now and if she won it would result in a judgment against Mixon that would stay in place forever, or until he paid it off (think of the judgment the Goldman family got againt OJ for example, that’s still out there today).
But OJ was already OJ as well. Name recognition, and money, in the past, present, and future potential. So the family’s award was MUCH, MUCH larger than what Mia could get awarded against lowly Joe Mixon.
And plus (a very large plus at that), Goldman and OJ was about MURDER, not a misdemeanor public outrage decency charge.
I don’t disagree. I used the OJ example to show that they can stick around forever, not that the conduct was similar…. She could sue for all of her medical bills, pain and suffering, and emotional distress if she wanted. Those causes of action are pretty common. And if her face really is caved in I suspect she could get a good amount of money for the pain and suffering and distress if she were to win (and thats a big if of course, but remember the civil system is a much lower standard of proof than the criminal one).
Agreed.
It was an honest thing. They hate apportioning blame during “bar” fights no matter how clear it is who was the aggressor.
1) It was in a sandwich shop NOT a Bar.
2) Joe Mixon was stone sober.
I agree, what ridiculous bunk. Gender bias. Sounds like a possible case for the ACLU.
I hate oklahoma courts so much, they favor women 100% of the time. Ive got a friend who has 50% custody with his ex wife, makes far less money than her, and still pays her a chunk in child support.
Complete bs that mixon is charged, but not her, when she initiated physical contact 1st.
Sounds like Joe got lucky.
Yep. After reading that, IF that is indeed how it went down, Joe is quite lucky to only be facing a misdemeanor. If he was simply slapped once, and that was after he lunged at her, there really is no self defense, defense. Dumb move by Joe, but hopefully he sticks around and doesn’t have any more screw ups. I was really hoping this was more her fault, but dang.
It was her fault she initiated contact. By the way the law reads he didn’t do anything wrong. But I’m also not a lawyer and could be dead wrong.
You just make up the rules as you go along.
Wow, it is getting harder to be on Joe’s side… An open handed slap from a female (especially after he showed aggression first with a lunge) should not provoke a close fisted punch. If this officers statement reflects whats actually in the video (why wouldn’t it) I would expect Bob to dismiss him from the team. Just totally unacceptable, I guess I was under the impression that she did more to provoke, but it sounds like it was about even when she slapped him and he retaliated with excessive force.
Also IMO the report does not reflect what his lawyers statement was about Joe “defending himself instinctively”.
So sad, seems he might end up another 5* OU bust.
Umm, are you forgetting the racial slurs that preceded all the physicality? Lots more went into him hitting her than a push and a slap.
Im absolutely shocked his attorney didnt push for hate crime charges.
Getting slapped and immediately responding with a punch is about as instinctive as it gets.
I disagree, I have been slapped before and didn’t respond with a punch. However we all have different tempers. I actually posted one comment up that I have once again changed my stance as it has been explained to me that the report filed by the police is not a complete account of the incident and is basically his interpretation of the victims story.
Ive been slapped once, and i instinctively pushed the kid hard as I could, not noticing our surroundings, and pushed him down a flight of stairs. Busted one of his knees up real bad.
His parents tried to file charges, until they found out he had been bullying me for years, and they just let it go.
Yes we all have different tempers, but im still betting you reacted in SOME way, aggressive or not.
Once you look at all the facts, its pretty hard to call her a victim. Glad to see you got the whole story now. Its pretty damning when you look at it without all the facts, thats for sure.
This, of course, is your opinion, which is virtually worthless.
My opinion is worth no less than anyone else on this forum. Thanks! I do however feel differently now that I have learned that what was posted from the police officer is more of an opinion which he is using to convince the DA to draw up charges, and not a statement of fact for both parties.
But all that aside, it sounds like she should have some charges filed against her as well. She can’t shove him and slap him despite what he later did in retaliation.
She verbally assaulted him, shoved him and slapped him before he struck her. That was the reason they gave for charging him with a misdemeanor rather then a felony during the news conference today.
I’m still not clear on whether his hit or hitting the table caused the damage?
Is there any actual proof——verified by a medical professional—–of her injuries?
We’ll never get that information. Doctor patient confidentiality, aka HIPPA laws.
Not always @pitbull17:disqus
http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/faq/disclosures_for_law_enforcement_purposes/505.html
Would love to know the extent and detail of injuries as this is my specialty. Not all fractures / broken bones are the same and similarly not all fractures / broken bones need treatment.
I’ve waivered on this issue a lot. I was raised to never under any circumstances hit a woman. I did however punch my female cousin in the nose one day when she decided to try to choke me. I was 14, I broke her nose in 3 places with one punch. I was immediately terrified of what my dad was going to do to me. Once he got home he asked my little brother, my cousin and I what happened. After finding out what happened his only words to me were not so hard if it ever happens again. His words to her were to not put herself in a mans position. I said all that to say this. This looks to me like she did all she could to push him to snap, but he wasn’t cornered he could have walked away. without seeing the video it’s hard to say what OU should do with him. But I don’t think there is any way he plays this year knowing Bob.
Wow just wow! I didn’t expect Mixon to be the only one charged. If she did in fact strike him first then he hs no choice but to pled not guilty and go to court. Accepting the charge opens him up to legal action on her part for medical expenses, pain and suffering, etc.
Being “shoved/pushed” and “slapped” didn’t require Joe to do what he did. Male on male, or female on female, maybe it gets overlooked. But if you are going to clock a girl like that, you better make sure she punched you or worse first. If every dude that has ever been pushed or slapped by a female retaliated like Joe did, well, I don’t have to tell you how bad that would be.
Agreed, but she should still have legal consequences for pushing and slapping somebody.
I agree, Soonerfan. I tend to think nothing in the story justifies inflicting the injuries reported, even if it’s female on female, or male on male. Just not appropriate behavior, in my personal view. But given the facts of the story as presented in the affidavit, it’s really not good.
As the details are being revealed, I’d be shocked if Mixon remains on the team or at the university. Hope he grows from this and fulfills his dreams.
Official statement from OU update added
So insiders, thinking at least Monday before OU announces punishment? This is all unfolding fairly quickly now..
Who the hell knows at this point. It could come in the next five minutes and I wouldn’t be surprised.
I just hope they had a feel for what charges were anticipated and have discussed it already. Waiting weeks more for a decision would be tough for everyone.
Might as well finish it off today! Well, sort of..
If BStoops decides to just give him a “slap on the wrist” the question is…..should he duck?
I would guess OU already knows or already handed down punishment for Joe. We won’t know probably sometime late this weekend or first thing Monday morning.
Looks like the Scout team just got a great RB
https://twitter.com/EricBaileyTW/status/500396136398458880
https://twitter.com/EricBaileyTW/status/500396301205258240
Im not a legal expert by any means but im throwing my opinion on here. This issue is moral vs legal. Is what mixon did morally wrong? Probably, depends on who you ask. I just find it hard to find him legally responsible for her injuries when she initiated the violence. Not saying what he did is right, but just not outside of his legal right to retaliate to being hit/slapped.
Statement from Mixon’s attorney
Sorry
https://twitter.com/KOCOCarson/status/500396629074001921
The lawyers full statement..
1) shows me Mixon has quality representation,
2) Mixon is possibly being hosed legally (regardless of moral thoughts on issue)
3) Mixon might fight in court,
4) very interesting developments..
Attaching Statement:
Whoops, a delay. I see ya got it down there..
If you want to see Murdick go full retard, take a visit the land of “running down hill” “plays well in space” and “fast twitch hips”…
WTf??? no charges against her??? WHY NOT?? She started this entire fiasco!! I do not excuse Joe at all. BUT if she had just minded her own D business, we wouldn’t be talking about this……at all! Norman PD would screw up a jaywalking charge.
Pretty sure the affidavit says that the altercation began from Mixon using homosexual slurs toward a friend of hers.
No, the affidavit says that she claimed the altercation began from Mixon using homosexual slurs toward a friend of hers.
right, and no mention of the witness backing up that statement. And we already know what Mia said about her memory of the incident.
“she claimed” well alright then. Must be true. Btw your synopsis above is spot on. It irks me that she skated on this.
Nate, from what I’m understanding from you, and my own experience, the affidavit is basically the victim/prosecution’s claim. A trial would then allow for the defense to counter. The affidavit is not, and not expected to be, fair and balanced.
I was a jurist on one criminal trial, and thought the accused was guilty based on the prosecution/evidence, but once the defense was able to counter it all fell apart and he was acquitted. I was amazed at how I made a 180 degree turn once the defense’s case was presented.
Therefore, I emphatically agree with Nate’s “Do NOT take the probable cause affidavit at face value.”
Question/thought, Do police generally avoid filing charges against both parties in an altercation since each PC Affidavit could hurt the other case? So they just go with the case with the best chance to win and drop the other? Just wondering…
Pretty sure she started the entire incident outside and his response reflected his opinion of her male friend. Joe left that scene and went inside and was minding his own business. Oh and calling someone a name is not assault the last time I checked. Maybe he should have left the establishment, but there’s no way she should skate on this. She was intoxicated and obviously violent with a bad track record.
I’m guessing Joe gets a year off, ala Ryan Broyles. Hopefully, in the long run, this is nothing more than a tough character-builder for the young man.
Misdemeanor: Joe was involved in the incident, but they can’t prove that he actually struck the woman and/or caused her bodily harm.
Considering all of the time that was spent not issuing an arrest warrant while it was claimed that there was video of the incident…
Maybe the police realized that the woman was drunk…
Perhaps all of the involved legal and authoritative parties realize that bringing full charges against a well-known person should be assiduously avoided…
Perhaps the attorneys got together and agreed that there was no solid way to prove that Joe actually hit the woman and/or caused her the injuries…
It’s an unfortunate incident that someone, whether the person instigated it or not, has some seemingly significant injuries due to some kind of blow to the face, requiring surgery.
These are not metaphysical ruminations.
I think the police report below states that the video shows Joe lunging at her then hitting her.
Understood. Other ruminations still apply.
This honestly sounds like Mashburn is expecting to get wailed in court already.
First and foremost, all the elements are there for aggravated assault and battery charges by the state.
1. You need an assault and battery. (An assault is any willful and unlawful attempt or offer to do a bodily hurt to another with force or violence. A battery is any willful and unlawful use of force or violence upon the person of another.)
2. You need another person to be assaulted. (Duh.)
3. The assault and battery must have caused great bodily injury. (Great bodily injury includes broken or fractured bones.)
So, we have all our bases covered. Why isn’t the state just charging Mixon with aggravated A&B? Let’s take a look at the defense of….well, self-defense:
“A person is justified in using force in self-defense if that person reasonably believed that use of force was necessary to protect himself/herself from imminent danger of bodily harm. Self-defense is a defense although the danger to personal security may not have been real, if a reasonable person, in the circumstances and from the viewpoint of the defendant, would reasonably have believed that he/she was in imminent danger of bodily harm. The amount of force used may not exceed the amount of force a reasonable person, in the circumstances and from the viewpoint of the defendant, would have used to prevent the bodily harm.”
If you’re the DA, this would give you nightmares if trying to go for aggravated assault and battery under the facts at hand. The victim initiated the altercation with not one, but two different acts of assault and battery. Which means self-defense now comes into play.
Now, I know what you’re thinking. “But this was EXCESSIVE FORCE!” Actually, no it wasn’t, not from a legal standpoint. (From a moral standpoint, obviously Mixon is in the wrong here. The girl didn’t punch him, she slapped him. You take it and move on.) The point of view relevant isn’t some internet tough guy armchair QB’ing a month after the fact. The point of view relevant is Mixon’s. She pushes you, you lunge at her to try to scare her off without using force, instead she slaps you. What do you think it will take to stop her from attacking you? Now, this is really important, so it’s in all caps. OKLAHOMA DOES NOT REQUIRE A PERSON TO BACK DOWN TO APPLY SELF-DEFENSE. There is no duty to retreat. Under the law:
“A person who (was not the aggressor)/(did not provoke another with intent to cause an
altercation)/(did not voluntarily enter into mutual combat) has no duty to retreat, but may
stand firm and use the right of self-defense.”
And the danger doesn’t have to be real. The bodily harm doesn’t have to be significant or great. See the problem with the case? It’s already Charmin soft.
That, boys and girls, is why the DA went with 21 O.S. 22. Because he wants absolutely nothing to do with this being an assault and battery argument. He would get his rear end handed to him on a silver platter by Kevin Finlay. The DA’s argument now is that Mixon wrongfully caused Amelia Molitor gross injury. That’s a much easier case to make, isn’t it? Self-defense still comes into play, but you can blunt it a little bit. This is a tactical move to try anything to avoid the aggressor/respondent argument which will get the DA buried. The DA’s big issue here is that he doesn’t think a guy should respond to middling attacks from a girl when he’s 8 inches taller and 80 pounds heavier than the girl slapping at him. As he said, it’s just a moral issue.
Also, one last note. Do NOT take the probable cause affidavit at face value. It’s not a testimony of independent truth. PC affidavits are opinion documents written by police who are trying to convince a judge to issue an arrest warrant. Notice how there’s no mention of her using racial slurs? And how the DA said that some witnesses said such slurs were used? You don’t tell a judge that when you want him to let you arrest someone.
Thank you, Nate.
Well said.
The officer’s affidavit is woefully lacking in details and I doubt there is audio with the security video.
One question I have is, did the investigator/s notice an abrasion to Joe’s hand?
Did Joe’s alleged comment/slur to her companion come before or after her alleged comment/slur?
I’m also curious about the hospital trip, seeing how everyone missed that somehow. Why was that never reported, when all I ever read was that she high-tailed it back to Texas after speaking with cops. If she was at Norman Regional for any length of time, how did they not check her record and find a warrant for her posted that evening?
Good point. My experience has been any contact with LE and you are identified, the info gets checked.
Maybe this event is not straightforward.
There is that.
When warrants are issued by a Judge, many times there is a delay for them to get to the court clerks office, filed and then sent to the local sheriff’s office to be put in to their system. Could be the next day and it could be the next week. Even if they were able to locate the warrant on the night of this incident, it’s a judgment call by the officers or their supervisors to make an arrest on someone who is injured, depending on the severity of the injury. Once they take someone into custody they are responsible (not monetarily) for their care and safety while incarcerated. Most jails do not like to intake prisoners with injury’s such as described that she had, although there are exceptions.
Good info, thanks.
Nate,
Regarding your last paragraph, does the PC affidavit have to be factually correct? The PC mentions Molitor visited the hospital and lists her injuries, but this is the first “confirmation” I’ve seen of the extent of her injuries. Does the officer have to verify said information before he files the report?
Appreciate your thoughtful analysis, Nate. One question though: While the point of view, as you say, that’s relevant is Mixon’s, you indicate that it’s the view not of Mixon but that of “a reasonable person” in that position that would be determining. I suppose in part it’s about what appears on the video, but don’t you think, given the size and gender difference, that “a reasonable person” might have been able to come up with a response to the slur, push, and slap, short of knocking the slapper out with injuries? I guess I’m asking for a clarification of the notion that legally it couldn’t be “excessive force.”
When it comes to personal safety there are few barriers to the level of force necessary to defend oneself from possible or further physical harm. If he had hot her after she was retreating or down or just simply no longer a threat then your talking excessive. Though that one hit did some damage it was just one hit, she’s down, he stops. I’ve been through many self defense classes out here in CA where DAs and police go over this repeatedly. Nate did an excellent outline of how Mixon’s actions can be viewed as appropriate responses as she escalated her assaults.
People on social media are making a big deal about her size….5’6″ and 130 lbs. I know of one woman, at 5’7″ and 135 lbs, that could knock out most men….Rhonda Rousey. You don’t always know or can assume who is attacking you. Not saying Joe is in the right, he did what he did and now will deal with the consequences, but you never know who is hitting you and what damage they can do.
Absolutely. I’ve seen HS girls tear each other apart. If her companion was acting hostile too there are two threats. I’ve seen that crazy look people can get that makes you wonder what they are about to do and most times they intend ill intent.
There’s the spirit of the law and the letter of the law. Two young adults, one of whom is reported to have been intoxicated (and has a previous and current issue with the police, but, of course, no one will take that into context publicly), got into an “altercation” and someone got hurt.
This isn’t the way I’m thinking. However, this isn’t not the way others may be thinking.
So should he fight this in court? It seems to me after reviewing your comment that the officers did not tell the whole tale. How is it that they can withhold eye witness accounts of any incident? I don’t understand. Is that not part of their job?
Outstanding summary Nate:-)
Nate, Great Post! I’m no lawer, just a country boy with a question. Is this also probably why the DA didn’t file any charges against the young lady (term used loosly), if he had charged her her with assault & battery even a Misdemenor version it seems like that would have made the “Self-Defense” defense even stronger. He would essentually be admitting that she attcked Mixon too! Seems like if he wanted to charge Mixon his hands were kind of tied in attempting to charge her! I’m not saying this is true just wondering!
Strong take as always, Nate.
First things first – Thank you, Nate for time taken and simplified explanation provided.
And another case where TFB visitors take a measured and responsible narrative to the events at hand. Tip O the Hat.
As for myself – the video will tell the tale… legalities aside. If his physical response is instantaneous to her initial physical action then, as unfortunate a situation as this is, I have no moral or sexual bias objections. Conversely, if there is a moments hesitation between action/reaction – then he has struck a female and I’ll have no truck with that.
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Mia Molitor @MiaMoli28 · Mar 30
Lesson of the night… Don’t piss Mia off when she’s drunk #period
– Premeditated. She knew what she was doing with Joe, and it could have been any other player. There is no doubt that there should be charges against her. What a double standard!
I love how J. Esco puts out news, and then disappears into the midst, only to reappear to post more tidbits of news, leaving us all to quibble and quabble over every last detail of said news, all the while he kicks back and watches the conversation unfold, rarely commenting on controversial news. Kudos Jordan. I’m not sure I could show such restraint!
(I’m secretly thinking J. Esco has another name to be used for such commenting!)
Man he’s kicking it his own stretch limo and watching it all go down!
Funny ad, especially since I am happily divorced.
So does that mean we get to watch the Louisiana Tech game (w/o PPV) if we have FOX Sports 1? If you pause it at Week 1, you can see it lists Louisiana Tech at Oklahoma. I also noticed that the Sooner Sports schedule shows a “Live Video” link.
That would be awesome, I’m still vacillating on $54.95 for La. Tech.
I’ll be paying for it buddy. thanks to work it’s the only game of the first 4 that I’ll be able to watch live. I can’t miss a chance.
Not being able to check this site all day caused me a considerable amount of consternation.
You didn’t miss
anythingmuch.I see…hey I’m desperate for football so this site is pretty much my fix/sanity. Lol
It’s good to be grounded. :}
the practice notes were boss 🙂
Agreed! Believe it or not this a Open Post about OU Football and Recruiting, not the transcript of the new Jerry Springer Show! Glad we had football news today! Thanks K!
They certainly were, just injecting some levity in light of today’s events.
Yes they were K
Indeed…………
My Email to the Cleveland County DA’s office
From State of Oklahoma
Title 21
21-641.
Assault defined.
An assault is any willful and unlawful attempt or offer with force or violence to
do a corporal hurt to another.R.L. 1910 Sec. 2340.
§21-642. Battery defined.
A battery is any willful and unlawful use of force or violence upon the person of
another.R.L.1910, § 2341.
§21-643.
Force against another not unlawful, when – Self-defense – Defense of property.
We all know there are circumstances behind every case but at least charge the person
that initiated the physical contact… Or could it be that your office is
working a deal with MS Molitor to turn state’s evidence as everyone knows she
is less than an upstanding citizen.
I’m going to guess you don’t receive a reply although I hope you do. She, and I use that term loosely, deserves to be charged with assault as well as public drunk based on statements by responding officers. The fact that she has a lengthy rap sheet at her age as well as warrants as recent as the night of the incident should have put her a$$ in jail. This stinks to high heaven and I would like to see some answers.
Yup Ray.Throw in public intox and drinking underage. Isn’t she 20?
Looks like Fehoko signed his financial aid with TTech.. Id say that ship has definitely sailed..
Mixon shouldn’t be charged at all, and the fact that there are no charges on the girl is pretty ridiculous.
I could never say it’s Ok for a man to hit a woman but when I say that, I’m saying in a domestic situation. If it is a total stranger who uses some sort of verbal abuse, spits, slaps, pushes , or punches, I still hope I could turn and walk away but I can’t say I would blame someone for standing their ground and throwing a punch to end the situation. I still think Joe is getting the bad end of this deal if this tramp isn’t thrown in jail.
Proverbs 18:17 The first to plead his case seems just, Until another comes and examines him.
Thanks Ray. I needed to hear that.I respect all women but if a stranger throws down on me, its on if I can’t get away from it. I have more respect for myself than to let that happen.
During the last three weeks I keep thinking the same thing;
In our society it is wrong for a male to hit a female. It is also wrong for a woman to attack a male all the while thinking ” he won’t hit me I am a girl”
When I was in school I always figured that if a girl were to confront a guy like she confronted Mixon then she broke the rules and all bets are off. I am older now and do realize that we are all responsible for our actions and reactions. I just find it very sad that this young man who is in fact still a teenage boy has to learn this lesson in such a public way. Most teenagers can make all kinds of mistakes, learn from them and move on to adulthood without having the problem of EVERYONE knowing all about those mistakes.
My hope is that whatever the outcome this young man can build on it to create a Strong and Positive foundation to stand on as he continues on his journey of life.
Any update on Saunders?
It’s close enough to the season opener that YouTube replays just aren’t doing it anymore. $55 PPV cost is rather ridiculous. I blame TFB. The tv execs must look at this site and see how we pine away for OU football and know the addiction will cause us to open our wallets. Yep, I will pay the $55 to get my fix but I wonder how many folks they excluded with that price.
I’m just going to Hudson’s
Way to go, TFB. You’ve ruined it for us all!!
Anyone know of a watch party or OU group getting together in Little Rock?
You don’t need PPV to watch OU or any other team out there @blaster1371:disqus. There is one website out there that covers em all and it’s free.
What would that be?
yeah would love to know this website
Same here!
I posted this in a previous article too, but I really feel like I can help here: there are some live streaming sites that you can use such as firstrowsports.eu (not sure if it is actually legal though). I live in the Caribbean, so I don’t even have access to PPV. But that price is just ridiculous. I use this site all the time, you just have to look past the poor lay out and annoying pop ups, but the streaming and quality is usually fine! And that includes the OU games!!
Awesome! Thx, Nick!
So espnu has been counting down the top 25 games of 2013 and it may surprise no one but the sugar bowl was not on this list.
How many were SEC matchups?
10 games with sec teams 8 I think were sec matchups.
http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2014/07/espnu-relives-top-25-college-football-games-of-2013/
Bedlam was one of them not sure how the sugar bowl didn’t make it besides they don’t want to show their flagship program getting beat handily.
Of course not. Alabama LOST and they don’t wanna promote any of that.
Unless it promotes another sec team like auburn
2014 game maybe?
Nope they have the national title game and another bcs game.
I just threw up.
That’s cray cray! LOL I am so “with it” that even at 60 I know how you youngsters talk the lingo!
To top it off when they have the replay they don’t show many of the OU offensive plays in the second half, only the scoring plays but show all of the Bama plays. Yeah, there is no bias there. ESPN is such a shell of what it started out to be. So sad.
14 Days Till Football Time in Oklahoma!! Couldn’t decide between two great QBs so I’m picking them both! Boomer!
I was wondering which one you would choose. Good Call!!
Wow, so used to seeing Sam in #8 now. 14 looks a lil strange!
2 great QB’s and 2 great moments!
Rookie?
At this point we’re all just better served ignoring all things ESPN. Was just flipping thru the channels and saw their “experts” going on and on about all the questions OU had as a team and specifically w/ Knight, but excusing that Alabama doesn’t have a QB but is still deserving of their No. 2 ranking. The day they put someone on the screen that is intelligent and has an actual clue as to what they’re talking about will be the first time that ever happens.
This isn’t exclusive to just sEcSPiN either. Of all the writers that cover college football on the CBS Sportsline.com website, all but one have the Big 12 being left out of the first playoff this coming season.
I just have this sinking feeling that we are going to have to win out to make it. If we are a 1 loss conference champion, and the other four conferences also have 1 loss champions, we could get left out, and the justification(which I disagree with) will be that we don’t have a conference title game.
I think the biggest thing that could help us in this scenario is that we drop Tennessee like a bad habit, then they turn around and win the SEC east this year. Something that is highly unlikely to happen(the last part that is).
There are some ways perceptions could be turned. If WVU plays Bama closer than expected, and/or KSU takes out Auburn, while OU takes the Vols to the woodshed, suddenly the SEC doesn’t look so tough any more.
Yeah, and as much as I’d love to see OsU beaten like they stole something, them playing FSU tough would help the perception of this conference as well.
Same problem i had when i looked at west Virginia vs bama
I’m weaning myself off ESPN for that very reason. The college football shows are totally SEC propaganda. Makes it easier to quit the habit. Fox sports one highlights will be my main show and looking around for others.
Tulsa Terry. Are you in the OU Club of Tulsa? If not (even if so lol) join us this Thursday, the 21st at Albert G’s BBQ on 1st St. at 5:00 pm. Any other Sooner fans in Tulsa are welcome, too.
Not an OU grad but my daughter is. Lifelong Sooner fan and TFB educated about the team. Do I still qualify?
Absolutely you do. I never attended OU. I always thought you had to had to be an alumnus until I went to the caravan a couple of years ago and talked with them. The Club is also for “friends and fans” of OU. Come on down and check us out.
I completely agree Jordan. At this rate, they should change their name to ESEC. The only way to change this is on the field. The Big 12 has to step up when they have the chance to play any SEC team. Sporting News has us playing Oregon in the title game. Interesting predictions:
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2014-06-16/bowl-projections-college-football-playoff-oregon-oklahoma-fsu-alabama-rose-sugar-bowl
nothing proper bout their propaganda
Chris Childers invented this line of moronism. He already picked Bama to win the title, without knowing who their QB is. Sense it makes…
For those interested in extended pain, the OU/Florida game is on SEC network at 5:00 EST.
We were so nasty that year. We shoulda had that one. It will always hurt like ’88. But we’re Oklahoma and very few can come close.
I only thumb down the memory, not your comment…
Planned on watching the first half, and did. Of course, the SEC network skipped most good OU plays “in the interest of time” and showed things like their goal line stand without the drive that got us there.
They did show all the big plays from their mass-murdering TE.
Jerry Palm has OU vs Bama in the semifinal Sugar Bowl game. No Pac 12 team in the final 4. Oh and Baylor playing Stanford in the Alamo Bowl…..very curious there.
I still can’t get over the fact that all of this great info is free. this site rules.
Tell your friends 😉
Has it been released what he was dismissed for from Tulsa?
..re rodriguez………….anyone remember…….seems he got into some kind of trouble at tu a/o grades perhaps……….does tfb have any player profile on him a/o opinion…..thxs
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.funny, but post sometimes just disappear on tfb………anyway……..
1) re rodriguez……..didn’t he get into some kind of trouble a/o grades at tu
2) does tfb have any opinion on his talents a/o what position he is trying to play
……….thxs
Really? What post disappeared? Cause we didn’t moderate any.
post similar in content to the above………….disappeared after a few minutes ………I’ve had that happen a couple of times since being on tfb………probably some glitch
I’ve had that happen a couple times, It will reappear after a page refresh.
Just curious, but are your comments set to show newest first?
always set to newest, but it had flipped to something else and I didn’t notice the change….you’re correct…….thxs for the heads-up
geez, I just posted a reply a couple of min ago, came back and it’s gone………..some kind of glitch
……first reply disappeared also
Wasn’t Rodriguez the guy who originally committed to OU then flipped to Tulsa?
Yeah. If I recall correctly OU recruited as an OT and he wanted to play DL so he went to Tulsa. Looks like everyone got what they wanted. He gets to play DL at OU and OU gets a good player without giving up a scholarship for the time being.
For need and rubbing it in purposes i would tell him he could walk on as an OT only.
Anyone know why Dalton was kicked off TUs team? Was it academics?
He was dismissed for violating team rules.
http://m.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/tu/dalton-rodriguez-michael-sorrels-dismissed-from-tu-football-program/article_112a76d5-a009-587a-8997-5853398fb30a.html?mode=jqm
Is this Dalton Rodriguez bigtime? Havent heard much about him..
He was a 2013 kid with some legit offers but if I recall correctly most, including OU, wanted to convert him to an OT. He went to Tulsa because they let him play DL. OU switched to a 30/50 front which made him a better fit for the current DL. So now he’s a walk-on. I see it as a win win personally.
Thanks!
We’re rapidly becoming “second chance U” lately!
I know. I’m trying to stay positive about it. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t uneasy. But I trust Bob Stoops to the fullest. Let’s just play ball. Politics are for the birds.
Yep. Gotta trust in Bob. His history has been good, but it is a bit scary.
I agree. He’s been very strict with some and also turned around folks who’s hearts are in the right place more then once. Probably the most consistent as well in what he expects. But I would certainly rather not hear about another player with character or discipline problems on the team. Of course my mom would say ” it’s just one of those things” which, of course, doesn’t explain anything but makes you feel better anyway, LOL.
Dalton Rodgriguez, talk about a long athlete!
he’s got the frame to be a beast///not sure about his attitude or work ethic or motor….i trust the coaches on this one.
I’ll have to say I’m not that thrilled with him coming. OU isn’t a backup plan in my eyes., and even though it’s as a walk on i just want impressed with his production at TU.
He will be a really good scout team player, and he’s as free as this place except he will get unlimited snacks. That gives me an Idea, need to talk to K about this.
Unlimited snacks is a HUGE selling point in my opinion. Even Crotch cafeteria used to catch me sneaking back through sometimes and cut me off! Traumatic.
ou was happy when he ‘committed’ the first time……….hope he gives it hell and we’ll see
After Shmidty gets his hands on him, he’ll be a beast
Dalton Rod hopefully will work hard to make an impact on and off the field.
I turned off any and all ESPN shows some time ago. The ONLY one that I find entertaining is The Herd with Colin. Other than, they spend too much time yapping with HORRID commentators that have limited knowledge of the facts. TMZ is their new business model imo. I’ll stick to the games and move to the internet to filter at my perspective.
I’m 100% with you. Its a shame Fox Sports has just abandoned trying to complete with ESPN in college football… Now they were absolutely terrible last year but her new people and try again, don’t just give up completely!
Fox Sports has given up on their Saturday morning show, but they’re not going away from college football.
Dalton seems like he was a 3 star (with quite a few offers in 2013)…No.58 at position and No.8 in the state…6′ 6” and 270 odd pounds…4.78 sec forty time…No idea if he was/is any good…
13 Days Till Football Time in Oklahoma!! Boomer Sooner!
Steve Sewell is one of my all-time favorite Sooners!
Such a great Sooner.
Sewell seemed to glide down the field.
Saw this today at laughed out loud.
Suprised it’s not an ESPN Mic
Why are you a guest? Take your shoes off, throw your coat on the bed and join the party.
Actually i’m not a guest. When I posted it, the picture didn’t show up so i deleted the post and was going to post it again later. When I came back on to repost….there it was under a guest post!! Weird!! :-/
It’s happened to me, getting caught up in the activity and forgetting to log in. Not saying you forgot because there have been some glitches lately on the site that I’ve never seen before.