Kenyon Frison Note
Posted on: January 21, 2014
I talked to someone this morning and he said Oklahoma isn’t feeling good about where they stand with Kenyon Frison. Hopefully they’re wrong because OU is hurting for young OTs but the decommitment immediately after the ASU visit definitely seemed odd.
If Frison doesn’t go Oklahoma’s way then that leaves only one final reasonable OT target that currently holds an OU offer in Lukayus McNeil.
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It’s gotta have something to do with immediate playing time..
If he ends up at ASU it could also be distance and weather. The palm trees sucked De’Chavon in…seriously.
Interesting, if that’s what makes his decision for him than so be it..
Agree with you..Stoops and Coach B cant control the weather, just the level of football being played…Hopefully the “high” wheres off after a few more days if that is truly where he is leaning too.
Arizona State in July through September will be an eye opener for him.
Our Oaks provide more shade than a Palm tree!
you got that right . . . in that place a person gets fried, dried and mummified . . .
in contrast Norman has its fair share of the proverbial “football weather” . . . in a good way . . . going back decades I remember plenty of game days that were just perfect Saturdays
In hindsight, that was probably the best decision for D’C. Cannot argue with the quality of backs on campus right now and in the near future.
…..and word I’ve read is that McNeil is leaning toward sticking with Louisville.
Need to build some in roads to Juco’s next year to get some guys to come in at December. Will be imperative to get some HS guys definitely, but if we can get an elite Juco guy too to help bridge the gap, will be a huge help
Not a fan of going the JUCO route. OU just doesn’t seem to have success w/ JUCO o-linemen, IMO.
Agree, D line if needed but the O line is a cohesive group that takes time to develop.
Is there something difficult to pick up about our blocking schemes? I expressed this earlier in the season, but I really don’t understand why an olineman wouldn’t know his assignments after a month or two of practice.
I’m going to disagree here. We have had some reaches and especially guys who can’t make it in until late summer, but as for guys that are highly rated and can come in at December break?
I think that kind of guy could be a starter come first game in September
Jordan I think overall you may be correct but Phil Loadholt was a star but he’s the only one off the top of my head I can think of.
No doubt. But unfortunately he’s proved to be more the exception than the rule, IMO.
Savage did a helluva job versus Bama but you’re right. JUCO’s need to start and not be backups.
I suppose it can’t always be good, but damn this would suck.
I have been baffled for a while about our line recruiting problem. I would like to know what or who they don’t like. I really thought these new coaches were going to turn the corner.
They have, technically this class shouldn’t count since they didn’t have much knowledge of the school or a seasons worth of credibility to build relationships. Just look at the 2015 class already.
Agree that next year is looking promising, not saying these coaches have done bad at all, was just hoping for a massive surge right out of the gate. Wishful thinking on my part.
I think location is a lot of it. Oklahoma hasn’t generated a lot of big time linemen in recent years (I don’t think). Look at these last few kids we are going after, and where they are from. Frison is from Utah, and will likely stay out west. McNeal is from Indiana, and will likely stay closer to home with UL. We couldn’t sway the kid from Michigan away from Western Michigan.
I know we had some luck pulling some guards out of difference areas this year, but I don’t think OU (or any school) can consistently count on pulling kids from all parts of the country, and getting ALL of your targets when trying to do that. We’re already having 2015 success in Oline recruiting, in part b/c OK has a strong class, and we’re working Texas pretty hard.
Kind of sucks that a football players decision is going to come down to whose state has the better seasons. Not education, football program, facilities which all are included but the FINAL decision is weather. frustrating
It is a bit frustrating I agree, but it’s really 17-18 year olds we’re talking about. After all, how much accountability do and should these young men have to anyone else? I’m really happy I didn’t have thousands of people examining my college choices. These guys get a lot of benefits, publicity, etc, but I wouldn’t say that they are a ‘football player’ first. They should really be seen as students first, and football players second (or third). I admit, it’s hard to keep that in perspective sometimes.
Eeesh. We need an OT bad.
Triston Hill or Patrick AU the only two possibilities left if Mcneal and Frison fall through?
Doesn’t this just open the door for Hill? Jy, who do you like more as a LT, Frison or Hill?
I like Hill. His senior film is comical in what he does to people.
Are the preparing Sam Grant the TE to a move to OT?
Haven’t they been from Day 1?
Hopefully he can be the next Lane Johnson!
That would be ideal (obviously), but Lane’s would be some pretty big shoes to fill (again, obviously).
I don’t think Sam moves. I think he’s going to be a big tight end. The move isn’t needed.
I would think another run at Dominique Robertson (sp) might be in order, or an offer to Hill, if we really do miss on both Frison and McNeal.
Yes, I would agree, that seems reasonable, from our limited knowledge of what’s going on inside the program. I wouldn’t be upset with Hill, that’s for sure
Are any of these guys that are listed as guards options to move to tackle?
Just looking at the 2014 and 2015 classes, all of the names below are listed as guards.
Alvarez
Curtis
Paul
Wariboko (committed for 2015)
Barnett (OU is a fav for him, 2015)
That is what I’d call a plethora of guard talent.
JY is adamant that Paul will be a RT
Yeah, Paul is a RT to me. He sheds some bad weight and gains muscle, he’ll be a force there.
Per Twitter, looks like OU is no longer recruiting Kendall Randolph. Sure seems like a talented kid to walk away from, with offers from most all SEC programs, including Bama. I trust Mike Stoops, just hate walking away from talented kids that sure seem like they want to be Sooners.
https://twitter.com/xKenJ
Bigger issues… I assume
Awful late in the process for something like that.
Coaches arent going to take a risk like they have in the past. Im just guessing. They came on this kid late, they talk to teachers, coaches, parents etc…
See my response above. I don’t think it’s anything near that ominous.
If we only had these kinds of problems with offensive tackles…..having to turn away kids that want to play here.
If only
Just saw on twitter that Kendall Randolph is no longer has OU as an option… What happened there???? Does this mean that since we are no longer recruiting him that Steven Park is 100% a Sooner?
Guessing there are bigger issues. You dont just stop recruiting a kid like this. There has to be something in his past or character that the coaches didnt like.
I don’t think it’s anything like that at all. OU only has a limited # of spots left, they have every reason to feel good about Parker (IMO), and w/ the Jordan Thomas commitment I think Randolph was unfortunately a victim of making the numbers work.
Good. I hope not. It seems odd that a player that good is going to be turned away so quickly.
That’s what I’m thinking. Feel bad for the kid as he’s obviously disappointed, but has been all class with his tweets.
Do you think (or know) if the Randolph situation is related to Parker’s recent tweets?
IMO, they are unrelated.
I’ll never understand why OU doesn’t make Oline a top priority. It’s so key to an offense and I feel like they just take who they get. And don’t try hard enough to go after elite ready to start Oline from the beginning of recruiting. We have great coach that cam turn and average to above average but imagine what a 5 star oline would be like with Trevor and our running back.
What gives you the impression they haven’t made it a priority?
Just b/c they’re not having the success at OT that we’d all like them to be having doesn’t mean the position is not a priority.
I think there are a couple of things working against Bedenbaugh, but I have no reason to doubt his ability to overcome them.
the coaches will get a quality prospect, and as been mentioned on here, the 2014 class isn’t really on these new coaches. See 2015’s results for where to expect things moving forward. they will wrap up 2014’s class strongly and in 2015 we’ll be back to top 10 classes and OL and DL ARE IN FOCUS now. 2015’s class shows that, it hasn’t been the last few years and thus the dive in quality football being on the field past few years. Truly excited about this football team again for the first time in many, many years
Idk, Arkansas’ new coaches haven’t had any trouble getting one of the best OT classes in the country.
I was just thinking the same thing. In spite of Arkansas’ horrible season, they’re doing quite well on the recruiting trail.
valid point for sure as I live here in Arkansas and the non struggle to obtaining OL can be attributed to several things; least of which is arkansas’ record.
1) SEC…(need I say more?)
2) Bielema’s track record with NFL lineman ( I believe OU’s is just as good a pedigree here, for the record )
3) and probably biggest factor – IMMEDIATE playing time – this combined with playing in SEC’land is probably largest factor imho. True freshman will have the ability to come in and compete from day 1. @ OU not the case. my opinion and probably OU’s selling point would be come in RS and get a solid chance after you’ve bulked up a bit more, learned the schemes and you’re competing year 2. Sometimes works, sometimes doesn’t..I think this is Pruitt’s biggest deal iirc.
I still believe moving forward that BB gets his guys and is turning prospects away sooner rather than later. That’s my .02
Good and also valid points in your post.
Wisconsin always recruited great OL. When he moved on to Arkie, he’s continuing that trend.
Starting to think Tristan Hill will get a visit from Coach Bedenbaugh pretty soon…
That wouldn’t hurt my feelings.
I hope so. In my opinion he doesn’t take a back seat to anyone.
I saw where Alvarez mentioned he measured at 6’4″ and his doc told him he was still growing. If that is the case, wonder if he could slide out
Question for anyone who knows: When an O Lineman is being recruited, what does he look for in a school? For example; a running back will go to school with a strong reputation in the run game, same for a receiver to go to a pass attack game. Back to my question, what does a lineman look for? Do we have what they are looking for or are we lacking something to attract the big guys? “I will take your answer off the air”
Off the air, I would say we need to build bigger and better buffet’s. Those boy’s gotta eat!
Depends on the kid. Elite kids who can choose want to go to a school that fits their style of play, but can be a number of factors, academics, tradition, winning, coeds, and on and on. Some kids are set on a school and that’s their dream school. Others just end up where they get offered as they just want to play.
Surely OU with its tradition, conference championships, National championships, etc., could have lured at least one of the below listed offensive tackles: Frank Kee, Jovan Pruitt, Patrick Au, Fahn Cooper, Avery Gennesy, David Hedelin, Nick Gates, Jordan Prestwood, Tyus Barrett, Dontavius Blair, Sebastian Tretola, Denzel Ward, Chukwuma Okorafor, Doninique Robertson, Lukays McNeil, Kenyon Frison! What really is the problem?
Problem 1 Tyrus Thompson
Problem 2 Daryl Williams
Problem 3 Derek Farniok
Problem 4 Josiah St. John
Juco’s aren’t going to see the field unless they’re special. They don’t want that. Elite kids want early playing time. You’re set for the next two years.
Don’t forget about Christian Daimler either. He’s one of those dancing bear types, that just needed some weight a couple of years ago. His Hudl film looked good. He got a redshirt year last year too. He could be one of those 6’7 310 guys before it’s over.