Inaugural College Football Playoff Officially Announced

The members of college football’s first playoff were announced Sunday afternoon and as many started to predict Saturday night, the Big 12’s two #OneTrueChampions were nowhere to be found.

Here are your final four, as it were.

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Discuss.

159 Comments

  • Kyle says:

    TCUs loss was on the road by three to Baylor. Ohio state’s was at home by 14 to 6-6 Virginia tech. That’s ridiculous

  • Shelby is a Patriot says:

    Ohio St. over Baylor and TCU…that is some BS.

  • Dwebb96 says:

    Maybe we will see some changes on the coaching staff and in the Big 12.

  • Jesse Wall says:

    Money talks…. glad we stayed in the big 12

  • Allen P says:

    Heard anything on the Mixon rumors?

  • D'Brickashaw Ferguson says:

    I believe the names “TCU” and “Baylor” don’t have as much pull as “Ohio State.” In terms of ticket selling, fan travel, TV ratings, etc.

    That was probably a factor…as well as OU losing yesterday, which hurt both TCU & Baylor’s resume. And no Big XII championship game

    • Zack says:

      I think this is a Baylor/tcu problem more than a big 12 problem. If it were ou and texas being left out then I would say we have a problem but I don’t think they would have done that to ou or texas.

      • EasTex says:

        BU and TCU have trouble filling those small stadiums of theirs. Expecting them to represent well in a 100,000 seat stadium is unrealistic.

        • Jon Nakata says:

          Doesn’t make them any less deserving. They certainly earned it over the wingnuts or whatever that weird thing tOSU’s mascot is supposed to be…

          • EasTex says:

            Because it is referred to as a “playoff” is what confuses folks, with only 4 teams it is actually a “beauty pageant” and TCU/BU looked terrible in a bathing suit.

          • Jon Nakata says:

            Totally agree. If its about which teams are “best” then tOSU loses out (even if its just by a smidge), but its not. Its about who will make ESPN more $$$.

          • EasTex says:

            I imagine espn is still upset they couldn’t have more than one sec team in the pageant.
            The committee can now sit back with little blow back from fans of two small, private religious based schools from Texas and say they did their job

          • boomersooner says:

            would you add schools? if so, whom? i liked someone’s idea of n ill and cincy…or byu(ick) or directional florida schools would be ok too

          • EasTex says:

            I don’t understand. Do you mean add more schools to make it an actual playoff? Absolutely!
            Or do you mean to the conference? I don’t see any good fits and still feel kind of icky with the couch burners. I would prefer regional based schools, but sadly Texsa has run them all off.

          • boomersooner says:

            yes. playoffs at 8 has a nice ring to it. they need cameras for a website in the selection room. if condy picks her nose, or scratches her nuts, it should be known across the planet. and to the conference, yes. ucf and niu would be the sexiest in your “bikini contest” to me right now with cincy and byu and usf and memphis rounding out the rest

          • EasTex says:

            I would give anything to add Nebraska and Arkansas to the conference.
            To many game scheduling problems with BYU in sports other than football to consider them.
            No to NIU, having to play there in November? No thanks.
            Cincy, I can’t begin to get into all that is wrong with that.
            The Florida schools seem as remote to us as WVU does.

          • boomersooner says:

            well yeah neb and ark would be awesome. i’m just picking flies off turds. what’s wrong with cincy? they’re decent at football and bball. byu yes problems. fla schools for recruiting and markets maybe

          • Easton says:

            Lousville and Cinci. Or, the University of Ohio and Lousville. Or them, plus CO. State.

          • Easton says:

            All fools errands though. Who cares, ain’t gonna happen until it happens.

          • Peddle80 says:

            We could just add BYU in football.

          • EasTex says:

            Sure, BYU would jump at that deal.

          • SoonerSpock says:

            Adding Nebraska and Arkansas would be great for the B12 but not good for Nebraska or Arkansas. Their contract granting media rights to the conference in other words the loss of TV revenue for the term of the contract cost prohibitive to move between conferences.
            To my knowledge after a lengthy research the AAC conference does not have a grant of rights contract in effect. Consequently UCF and USF both could join the B12 without massive penalties. Also the addition of the Florida TV market should increase the present B12 TV contracts adequately to keep the payout to each school the same or greater.
            UCF and USF’s addition would also help B12 recruiting in Florida as each school would have one game annually in Florida.

        • Zack says:

          And ohio state has fans on every street just like Alabama, ou, notre dame and USC.

          If I were the big 12 I would make sure Baylor and tcu play in a bowl game. And hope the AP throws them a bone and calls the winner the AP champion.

          • Jon Nakata says:

            It would only be ridiculed entirely and without mercy by ESPiN analysts if it did happen.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      I don’t think it’s a money thing at all. The people on that Committee aren’t going to see that money, why do they care? Heck, most of them have more than enough money anyways, even if selling more tickets were going to line their pockets. Not everything is a conspiracy.

  • Katyboomer says:

    If ou were in TCU’s place ou would have been in. I think TCU should have been in, this is just wrong

  • D'Brickashaw Ferguson says:

    OU starts the season ranked #4. Were #4 up until 8 weeks ago.

    Now we’re unranked after losing a heartbreaker, fans want coaches fired, the Big XII doesn’t have a team in the playoff because no championship game, Ohio State has a 3rd string QB who won the Big 10 champ MVP (while Cody Thomas didn’t play well), Perine is hurt, Shepard still hurt, we’re in the Russell Athletic Bowl vs. Duke (not in basketball…football), no Dallas Cowboys game today, and I just burned some pizza bagels because I forgot the set the stupid timer.

    http://i.imgur.com/f5bS8ku.gif

    • Zack says:

      On top of that there’s only one NFL game on right now and it’s probably the least entertaining matchup.

    • Easton says:

      YES. 9.3 post here D. Nope, this post is a 10.

    • Austin says:

      I hope we play duke, but I’ve also seen predictions for us to play Clemson or Louisville as well. I think playing duke gives us the best chance to win and at least let us end the season on somewhat of a positive note.

    • Jake says:

      Sad part is I’m scared to play Duke. How embarrassing would that loss be. And there’s no guarantee that we beat them.

      • Daddy R says:

        Yea but at least in 15 years when you bring up OU lost to Duke (not saying its going to happen!) people will just assume you meant basketball, and well, that would be expected.

      • Stephen Dale says:

        ;duke is likely to win ‘going away’…………..what possible incentive could OU have ??????? Duke , on the other hand, sees an opportunity to reach a 10- win season……………have no idea what the Vegas line will be but I like Duke to win the game ‘straight up’ over OU.

      • Easton says:

        No scared. Gotta want the toughest opponent if we’re going to be the team we want to be, or fans thereof.

    • BoomerDave says:

      Honestly, what difference would a Big XII Championship Game have made? Wouldn’t it have been K-State (North) v. Baylor (South). Seems like they played last night, didn’t they?

  • Easton says:

    Its all right. Ohio State shut out a top 15 team in the champ game. I think the plasticity of these rankings shows we are not dealing with the old system. Ohio State earned their way in. This is about the BEST teams right now, not the most deserving teams right now. There is a big difference, as we can see.

    • Jon Nakata says:

      OK, let me say, I understand what you mean, and I do not particularly disagree. Except I think TCU OR Baylor DISMANTLE tOSU. I certainly was looking forward to a TCU/Bama or Baylor/FSU/Oregon game…

      • Easton says:

        And that is the interesting part of this. 4, 5, and 6 are gut wrenching in a selection. This is an absolutely fascinating situation as far as I am concerned, and we still haven’t seen the other four bowls selected yet. The same committee that selected the four tops, is now preparing to release the match-ups for the Orange, Cotton, Peach, and Fiesta bowls. As opposed to the BCS system where the bowl owners/managers selected their teams. There is some real intrigue in this that is objective, and, albeit challenging, I think it is right on.

        • Daddy R says:

          I was unaware the committee picked those games as well. Only reason I can see for that is, they are preparing for a future 8 team playoff…and practicing.

          • Easton says:

            Taking the bowls out of the hands of hedge funds. That is the main reason for the change. But it is practice as well.

      • Double G says:

        Okay, I don’t post on here much (I think this is my fifth comment ever), but after seeing the injustice of the CFP’s final rankings and your comment about Ohio State I felt I needed to point something out. Ohio State does not deserve to play in the CFP. The committee claims to use the criteria of strength of schedule, quality of wins, quality of losses (I think Jeff Long said this once), game control, non conference scheduling, performance versus similar opponents, head to head match ups, and overall body of work to compute its rankings. However, now that the top four have come out I find it hard to believe this is what they are actually doing. And here’s why.

        1) Ohio State’s lone loss this season is to Virginia Tech, who is 6-6 on the season. When they lost to Virginia Tech, they lost by 14 points at home. Virginia Tech was not ranked at the time, is not ranked now, and has one of the worst losses on its record this season (2OT loss to Wake Forest (3-9) by a score of 6-3 because neither team could score in regulation and couldn’t get into the end zone in OT despite being 25 yards out twice).

        2) TCU’s lone loss this season was to Baylor, who is 11-1 on the season. When they lost to Baylor, they lost by 3 points on the road. Baylor was ranked #5 at the time of the loss and is ranked #5 now. Baylor’s only loss was to West Virginia and it was a bad loss for Baylor, but that same West Virginia team also gave Alabama (the current #1 team) fits and almost beat them in the first game of the season (final score was 33-23 on a neutral field).

        3) Ohio State and TCU’s similar opponent is Minnesota. Ohio state played Minnesota at home and won 31-24. TCU also played Minnesota at home and won 30-7. TCU has the better win over a common opponent.

        4) Ohio State has played and beaten 10 bowl eligible teams (1 against top 10 opponent and two against top 25 opponents). TCU has played and beaten 7 bowl eligible teams (2 against top 5 opponents, 1 against top 10 opponent, and 2 more against top 25 opponents). This gives TCU the better strength of schedule despite having played one less game. To those who disagree, the Big 10 is 42-14 in non conference play, with each team playing 4 non conference games. The Big 12 is 22-8 in non conference play, with each team playing 3 non conference games. The Big 12 has fewer teams and plays fewer non conference games (less cupcakes) and performed better outside it’s conference against Power 5 opponents, playing every ranked opponent (total of 4 games, 3 top 5 teams, 1 top 15 team) it lost to out of conference to within 10 points (including #1 Alabama and #3 Florida State). In fact, only one of those four games was decided by a touchdown (WVU loss to Alabama), the other three games were decided by 6 points or less. The Big 10 also played four games against ranked non conference opponents (1 top 5 team, 2 top 15 teams, and 1 top 25 team), but only one of those games was decided by 10 points or less (Wisconsin loss to LSU by 4). The other three games were decided by more than 15 points (including a Michigan State loss to #2 Oregon by 19 points). Michigan State is currently the number 3 team in the Big 10 and is ranked #8 overall. Wisconsin is the #2 in the Big 10 and is ranked #18. Those are some of the better teams in the Big 10. The teams that gave #1 Alabama, #3 FSU, and #14 UCLA fits? Unranked West Virginia, unranked Oklahoma State, and unranked Texas. That’s right, three unranked teams from the Big 12 gave three current top 15 teams, two of which are going to the CFP, almost all they could handle. Finally, the Big 12 also owns three non conference wins over the Big 10, including an ISU (0-9 in conference, 2-10 overall) win over Iowa (4-4 in conference, 7-5 overall) Yes, that’s the same ISU that couldn’t win in a single game in the Big 12.

        Bottom line, TCU is the better team right now, is one of the best four teams playing college football right now, is better overall, and has the better overall body of work based on the criteria the CFP committee claims they are using to make their selections. They got screwed. And for the record, I am not a TCU fan, I am an OU fan and will be until I’m Sooner Dead. I’m just tired of seeing the Big 12 and every team that plays in it not getting the credit/respect they deserve. I didn’t like the old system any more than anyone else, but if this is how the new system is going to work, I don’t see how it is much better.

        • Easton says:

          And TCU gets to prove that in the Fiesta Bowl. And Texas gets to prove it against LSU (probably). And, West Virginia gets to prove it as well. In the Big Ten, we will see Baylor take a shot at the second best Big Ten team. We shall see. Seven shots to prove Big IIX worth coming at us in a few weeks.

          • Double G says:

            You’re absolutely right. I’m hoping that the Big 12 represents well, because as much as I hate the whole rooting for a conference thing, the Big 12 needs a good showing so the individual teams in it can start getting the credit they deserve for their individual performances over the course of a given season.

        • Easton says:

          Great post nonetheless. I want to see how it all turns up.

  • paganpink says:

    I just wish OU had had some sort of claim to being in the first playoff season. Even Stoops has admitted what he did yesterday was inexplicable, but that doesn’t change anything. The whole season had inexplicable decisions made by coaches, and it cost us more then one game. We either have far less talent then we have had in the past as several OSU fans insisted to me yesterday, or we aren’t coaching them up and adjusting to the folks that we do have- which is my belief. Maybe I’m the guy that’s wrong. Our quarterbacks, and both sides of our vaunted O and D lines have been quite poor a majority of the season. And our entire defense is uninspired. We have an offense that is weak even against poor teams although we do have many good running backs. Anywayyyy, this season sucked as much as any since Blake’s years. I’ll get over it, but winning -and playing hard!- are sure a lot more fun.

  • Swanny says:

    Big 12 chose the Fox $$$ over the ESPN influence and lost.

  • Defend Colfax says:

    LOL @ Baylor

  • Defend Colfax says:

    LOL @ TCU

  • SoonerOracle737 says:

    So, did anyone not think that having human beings picking the playoff teams would be biased? Bring back the computers, please.

  • L'Carpetron Dookmarriot says:

    If this had been the old model, then there would have been no controversy. Bama and Oregon were clear.

    There were four teams that were debatable at the third and fourth spot. Even Florida State was debatable at #3.

  • RBear says:

    1st year and it’s already a crock.

  • Greg sparks says:

    Just like Gary Patterson said, happy to be CO-CHAMPS meaning the big 12 doesn’t have a A true champ and not allowed in the party. I’m not a fan of all the SWC teams anyway.

  • Zack says:

    We need to go independent like notre dame. And decide who we want to play each year.
    Texas, osu, Nebraska, notre dame, bama, lsu, fsu, Miami, USC, Stanford/Oregon. And 2 other games

  • ruasoonerfan2 says:

    Just my opinion but I think Bob should have press conference and announce the coaches he is letting go and that the Sooners will be declining all bowl bids to concentrate on new hires and recruiting. He then should return part of his salary to the Univerisity of Oklahoma that makes up the loss of revenue from the bowl bid that we declined.

  • lebval15 says:

    Maybe the big 12 will stop being so greedy as realize now that it needs a title game. Baylor had a better loss than OSU and beat a higher ranked team yesterday than OSU did but since it wasn’t a title game it wasn’t as respected.

    • Peddle80 says:

      It’s incredible how much they’re fighting adding two teams to do it. Forget all this applying for a waiver for a 10 team championship. Add two teams and move on. It really doesn’t even matter at this point who they are. If we don’t do it we’re going to end up exactly like the Big East. It’s just a matter of when.

      • Easton says:

        I think Baylor will leave the conference if things continue going the way they are.

      • Easton says:

        Other schools will jump ship as well. But I think the whole Power Five is going to change a lot over the next five years in terms of what schools decide to do in sports.

        • boomersooner says:

          i would like to see regionalization. no more conferences. make it kinda like the nfl but put your own flavor into it. you could cut, north to south, much like time zones, and with a four team playoff, whomever wins the region goes to playoffs. something different would be cool, i think. i think i’m onto something but don’t know how to finalize it or word it correctly

          • Easton says:

            I’ve been thinking along similar lines. Regionality would be the key principle. If the conference lines were dissolved, as they are now, we could see schedules like Notre Dame’s and BYU’s for every team. Yes, logistically, and speaking on any of those details is a huge topic that could be undertaken, but its far out right now. West, SW, Mid-North, Mid South, East, SE. Eliminate the non-con, play three non regional opponents, and nine regional opponents. And Regional Champ Games.

  • Won says:

    I guess the good news is we are no longer overrated and we can get past the 2013 Sugar Bowl that Bob has been clinging to as proof of the health of the program…

  • Easton says:

    One complaint: Boise St replaces K-State under the new rules. K-State, the only top 12 team to not get into the New Years six. #12 GT gets in. #11 K-State out, Boise in.

  • Easton says:

    Lets see how we do though. BU has the chance to put up or shut up. And TCU gets the SEC West.

    • boomersooner says:

      tell ya what, as a cfb fan, ole miss vs tcu and baylor vs mich st will be decent games to watch, i think

      • Easton says:

        For sure. This is good. I hope TCU and BU take these games as seriously as they took each other when they played in the regular. These games will determine a lot in the off season recruiting picture, for the whole conference.

  • Peddle80 says:

    A random person pulled off the street could have done a better job than the Big 12’s last two commissioners.

  • Stephen says:

    Things that will help next season:

    1.) Adding 2 teams. By that I mean two decent teams.
    2.) Rethink what the offense is.
    3.) After getting an idea, create the identity of the offense.
    4.) Big WR’s. Enough of the these small 6′ guys who can’t catch or break tackles.
    5.) Buy Hype….wait I meant bye Heup. Yes, that’s it.
    6.) Stop showing all the games on FS1. ESPN or gtfo FSSW. Tired of having to watch the game on the Internet. Tired of not being shown nationally. Tired of not being shown on SC. All these things hurt recruitng.
    7.) The Sooner Nachos should get a reduction in price.
    8.) Better student section. Everyone’s stadium looks alive and when you pan over ours we look as lost as Heupel looking through his playbook.
    9.) Bring in a real QB and a QB coach.
    10.) Repeat steps 2&3 but for defense.
    11.) Recruit.

  • CTSooner says:

    I am not sure saying TCU got screwed is proper assessment. Baylor was going to jump TCU when they beat KSU, the committee in their media guide pretty much says they want competition on the field to decide the placements, H2H is a pretty good indicator. So the committee was deciding between Baylor and tOSU and 2 factors played into that decision, one Baylor played a weak and inexcusable OOC schedule and two tOSU played in a Championship game and had the 1 extra game. The Big12 will have to change and add a championship game to compete with the other power 5 conferences.

    • Easton says:

      There we go.

    • Double G says:

      I had a long reply below to Easton about this, but if the committee was looking at the final four from this perspective (Baylor vs Ohio State instead of TCU) their decision makes a small amount of sense (Baylor still has better wins).
      However, I think the committee made it pretty clear that they didn’t think Baylor’s overall body of work brought them close enough to TCU for the head to head to matter when they ranked TCU #3 last week and left Baylor sitting at #6 behind OSU.
      That being said, I appreciate your insight on this and your perspective has at least lowered my blood pressure from where it was earlier.

      • CTSooner says:

        Last week that was true, as Baylor had yet to play KSU. Baylor’s win over KSU gave the ability to look at the body of work in the B12 and the H2H and had Baylor jump TCU. The other thing that killed both B12 teams was how impressive tOSU looked as a TEAM in that game playing their 3rd QB this year. How many teams could manage to do that? The Championship Game was just too impressive in my eyes to overlook.

  • Indy_sooner says:

    Show’s how idiotic the 4 team playoff thing is. You need at least 8 teams to be subjective and resolve some of the parity issues. Bama, FSU, tOSU,Ducks,TCU, Baylor, MSU and Mississippi State alot better than this sh!t show.

  • Mizuno44 says:

    The Big XII brand of football has deteriorated into a shoot out in virtually every game. And subsequently we’ve grown accustomed to mediocre or terrible defense, which doesn’t measure up with the national scene. I think all of the Big XII coaches need to evaluate the overall reputation of the Big XII brand, and understand fans do want to see shut down defense just as much as 180 point over/under games, 600 yard plus offensive averages, etc. I would love to see our conference with 6’2, 230 lb linebackers again, come on, smash mouth football with a nice blend of air power. The read option sucks, tired of it, especially inside the five yard line. Others may not agree, but just wanted to look at a bigger picture.

    • Easton says:

      Sweeeeeeeeeet post. This is a good conversation to have.

    • SoonerfanTU says:

      That’s just it though, I don’t think on average our (Big 12) D’s are significantly worse than any other conference. Maybe the SEC. MAYBE. The problem is, our offenses are way better. You have to compare apples to apples here.

      • Easton says:

        I would have to look at games, and stats, from this season and specifically stats from our conf vs SEC conf teams, and common opponents to be able to compare apples to apples on this. We get to do this in real time in the bowl games.

      • Mizuno44 says:

        It’s apples and oranges with the styles of defenses played in the Big XII vs SEC. From a national championship perspective, other than Texas in 2005, what conference won the most championships? Our loss to Florida can be attributed to us not defending them well, and with Tebo I might add, who’s longest throws were horizontal not vertical. And, their ability to stop our offensive firepower, and we had plenty of that, then. My point is the SEC is in my opinion, better equipped on the defensive side of the ball, they recruit to shut down both the run and pass. Also, the SEC defenses are more physically imposing, with larger corners and secondaries that possess the ability to play tough man coverage. I understand if you don’t agree, just my opinions.

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          Did you just like your own post? 🙂

        • SoonerfanTU says:

          And how have those SEC defenses faired against good spread offenses? Mediocre/average at best, I’d say.

          Tough, as a Big 12 defense, to design a scheme around what you might face in the playoffs, rather than what you will face week to week in the Big 12. OU easily could have beaten both LSU and UF in those NC games.

          I don’t disagree with what you are saying about getting bigger/stronger/tougher on D, I’m just saying it’s not as easy as you make it sound. There aren’t a ton of those types of guys growing on trees in Oklahoma, or really, even Texas. Seems like they are coming from the deep south right now.

          Again, goes back to the cyclical nature of college football.

          • EasTex says:

            It’s an age old problem, you have to build your team to win your conference first. It’s the problem Big 10 schools had for decades, then they would show up in a big bowl game with teams from other parts of the country and looked slow and plodding…because they were. The Cali teams, they could put up points but had weak lines on both sides of the ball.

  • SoonerfanTU says:

    KSU to the Alamo, so hopefully OU to the Russell Athletic Bowl.

  • Easton says:

    Common opponent Big 12 v SEC: Minnesota-Missouri in the Citrus Bowl, potentially.

  • boomersooner says:

    so the 6-6 horns get a home game for a bowl and we get to go to orlando. makes sense. however it does let those who go blow some dough at disney and maybe transport some dynamite to espnland or wide world of douchebaggery or whatever its called

  • Boom says:

    The selection committee just sent a sucker punch message to the Big 12. Get a conference Championship & decent OOC schedule and maybe you get in.
    Greed killed the Big 12. From DeLoss Dodds to keeping it at 10 for mo money. It was all about money – not championships. The Big 12 sold their souls.

    Staying at 10 when other teams were available? No hindsight on my part as I said it then too. Louisville & Cincy would’ve been great. Baylor sucked until Briles and guess what, they have a new stadium. Same with TCU. Look at who’s leading the conference, TCU & Baylor. Funny, Baylor wasn’t supposed to be in Big 12. Again, DeLoss Dodds said they are not good enough and he didn’t want them. Gov Ann Richards (Baylor Alum) vetoed Dodds and look at where they are today. Dodds didn’t want TCU either, wonder why. Dodd’s had this vision of ND and FSU and we would be the Power conf. He convenience Beebe and now Beebe & Dodd’s are out and left a huge mess. I digress

    Big 12 and the presidents need to have some serious talks. It’s not about how much money other teams are going to bring in, it’s about a CHAMPIONSHIP GAME and opportunity to get into the playoffs. Bring in UCF & USF. Some may say that would be desperate but it’s about saving the Big 12.
    For those out there who say I’m whining, it’s fact, look it up. Change and keep up or get out of the way. Currently, Big 12 is out of the way.

    • boomersooner says:

      not whining. we need to keep up. baylor and tcu left out of the playoff and k st left out of the big 6 or whatever(might only be allowed 2, but i don’t know). why ucf and usf? what makes them your most attractive? not arguing, just asking

      • Boom says:

        Everyone else is locked into big time contracts as of the past couple of years. To get another school to come aboard, it would cost them millions and for what, the big 12? We missed the boat. We had cred when the conf alignment was going on, now we are a joke. In other words, the big 12 choked and Dodd’s was a very big reason. During this time, Big 12 had the opportunity as Louie was fighting WV to get in. We could’ve added Louisville, Cincy, & WV. Dodd’s told them, WV only as I have a great relationship with ND and FSU, trust me, they will come. Didn’t happen and Dodd’s is sitting on his millions and left a conf in ruins.

        Interesting, WV & Louisville went to congress over this and WV won. Cincy wanted in too but we were way to good for them and they added nothing. In addition, some of the lesser schools (Kansas & ISU) were pleading not to include them as it would hurt their revenue from the new upcoming contract.

        It’s like Motorola who was a player in the cell phone war, guess what, they didn’t make the right decision and see ya. Big 12 has an opportunity, let’s see if greed plays out.

  • boomersooner says:

    we got venables dec 29 4:30 central

  • Zack says:

    I think this proves us worry worms wrong about recruiting. The losses really don’t turn guys off. Bama is the only team on this list that actually had a better year.

    https://twitter.com/tbhmcneal/status/541760005620260866

  • Stephen Dale says:

    substitute Clemson for Duke in my previous post. Clemson in a rout and BV will be laughing by middle of 2nd Q.